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DaneMcCloud 08-14-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367857)
I think we forget how our defense got picked apart the first 4 games without Sean Smith.

Complete fallacy. First off, Smith only missed three games. The defense was weak against the Bengals and the Bears with Sean Smith.

The Texans and their two QB's did not "pick apart" the Chiefs defense.

Denver was down by 7 points with 40 seconds left, scoring only 17 to that point.

And Aaron Rodgers has been known to "pick apart" NFL defenses for nearly a decade.

In58men 08-14-2016 10:52 AM

I'm not trying to be negative, but does Chris Jones seem slow? The guy is a monster don't get me wrong. I'm just hoping he has enough wheels to get to the QB. Is he faster than what I'm assuming?

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12367870)
Yeah...but KC's O-line was total garbage for the first 6 weeks...Smith was getting killed. Luckily KC dumped that trash on Denver...Stephenson, addition by subtraction.

That played a part in the GB/Bengals games too...

Peters was starting his first games in the NFL, Berry was coming back from cancer...Poe had back surgery and Gaines got hurt.

I think the offense has the chance to be a lot better. Alex was more of an attacker the second half of the season. So I'm optimistic. But we'll need much more offense / defense balance than we're used to and hopefully Alex is up to the task.

mcaj22 08-14-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12367876)
I'm not trying to be negative, but does Chris Jones seem slow? The guy is a monster don't get me wrong. I'm just hoping he has enough wheels to get to the QB. Is he faster than what I'm assuming?

he is a big huge mammoth man that can push the pocket. That alone means he did his job as far as I'm concerned. That fact that you want 4.5 closing speed for him to chase the QB down ontop of it blows my mind. That's literally the point of edge rushers, if Jones can push the middle it's the OLBers jobs to actually do their job and finish.

Like wait until Jones with playing Hali and Houston instead of the nonsense bums he's out there with now.

In58men 08-14-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12367883)
he is a big huge mammoth man that can push the pocket. That alone means he did his job as far as I'm concerned. That fact that you want 4.5 closing speed for him to chase the QB down ontop of it blows my mind. That's literally the point of edge rushers, if Jones can push the middle it's the OLBers jobs to actually do their job and finish.

Like wait until Jones with playing Hali and Houston instead of the nonsense bums he's out there with now.

That makes more sense. I guess I was expecting him to blow up the backfield playing with the 2nd & 3rd stringers.

BlackOp 08-14-2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12367888)
That makes more sense. I guess I was expecting him to blow up the backfield playing with the 2nd & 3rd stringers.

He kind of did.....

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12367875)
Complete fallacy. First off, Smith only missed three games. The defense was weak against the Bengals and the Bears with Sean Smith.

The Texans and their two QB's did not "pick apart" the Chiefs defense.

Denver was down by 7 points with 40 seconds left, scoring only 17 to that point.

And Aaron Rodgers has been known to "pick apart" NFL defenses for nearly a decade.

Th was a different team when Sean Smith and Peters lined up opposite each other. When Smith hit his stride, the defense wasn't just good, they were terrific. Scoring defense was excellent and they were exceptional at creating big turnovers. We've seen Sutton's D get flat out picked apart when a QB can consistently attack one CB. And that's with a healthy Houston / Hali.

I feel better this year than I did last without Sean Smith. I like Gaines if he can stay healthy and DJ White looked decent against Seattle. Even still, Hali is a year older, Houston is out, and who knows when Berry comes back. I don't think our D will collapse. But I think we'll need to win a lot more games in our 20s and 30s than we're used to. And I don't think we can depend on game-changing turnovers like we saw year 1 and year 3. The offense probably has to kick it up a notch.

Easy 6 08-14-2016 11:13 AM

Sooo much to be excited about and pleased with, the pros FAR outweighed the cons

The defensive depth on display has even calmed my fears about what happens if Ford continues to look like shit... we can survive his benching

Chieftain58 08-14-2016 11:50 AM

Honestly , .... What scares me is; we have a lot of good players that have potential to be great and some of the players we are going to cut are going to be picked up by other teams and probably come back to haunt us! I just hope when they start slicing and dicing they keep the right ones!

staylor26 08-14-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367907)
Th was a different team when Sean Smith and Peters lined up opposite each other. When Smith hit his stride, the defense wasn't just good, they were terrific. Scoring defense was excellent and they were exceptional at creating big turnovers. We've seen Sutton's D get flat out picked apart when a QB can consistently attack one CB. And that's with a healthy Houston / Hali.

I feel better this year than I did last without Sean Smith. I like Gaines if he can stay healthy and DJ White looked decent against Seattle. Even still, Hali is a year older, Houston is out, and who knows when Berry comes back. I don't think our D will collapse. But I think we'll need to win a lot more games in our 20s and 30s than we're used to. And I don't think we can depend on game-changing turnovers like we saw year 1 and year 3. The offense probably has to kick it up a notch.

Hali, while a year older, is fresh after getting all of TC off. And we do know when Berry will be back. Right before the season starts. He's not missing a game.

Dave Lane 08-14-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 12367826)
Thank you trivers I'd like to comment more but every time I do someone blasts my opinion on here.

I love the depth of the D line we need them to get the push at least while Houston is out.

I think next game we should let Dadi get some reps with first team D and see how he does.

The disappointment is how Dee ford can look great some games and disappear others. I hope this is just one game but I thought he'd be further along than this by now.

Are you KCNut?

Chief Pagan 08-14-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12367857)
It's a bit premature to be over-optimistic.

What, you want to wait until February to be over-optimistic?

:Poke:

chiefzilla1501 08-14-2016 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 12368002)
What, you want to wait until February to be over-optimistic?

:Poke:

I'd rather be cautiously optimistic. I'd rather do that than be bipolar with a love/hate thing. I think this team could be very good. But realistically our defense has some big question marks and could take a step back, and I believe we'll rely on our offense much more than we did last year to win games for us. I think we could still do well holding the fort until Houston comes back. But I think we're really undermining how big a loss Houston and Sean Smith are to the defense, not to mention Abdullah.

TEX 08-14-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12368051)
I'd rather be cautiously optimistic. I'd rather do that than be bipolar with a love/hate thing. I think this team could be very good. But realistically our defense has some big question marks and could take a step back, and I believe we'll rely on our offense much more than we did last year to win games for us. I think we could still do well holding the fort until Houston comes back. But I think we're really undermining how big a loss Houston and Sean Smith are to the defense, not to mention Abdullah.

Nailed it.

FloridaMan88 08-14-2016 01:42 PM

The offensive line has the potential to be elite... easily the best offensive line the Chiefs have had since Roaf retired.

Ware and West look like they will pick up where they left off last year which begs the question why the Chiefs didn't try to trade (or be more aggressive in trying to trade) Jamaal Charles this offseason and free up his $6 million cap number (which could have been 100% taken off the Chiefs' salary cap with a trade).


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