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BigMeatballDave 03-10-2016 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12123568)
Geoff Schwartz, come on down!
Yep. He's Mitchell's brother. :)

O.city 03-10-2016 08:52 AM
Damn, I had this one wrong. Thought we'd keep him around another year. Guess the injury is pretty bad. Wonder if we get any of that money opened up due to failed physical?

The Franchise 03-10-2016 09:02 AM
Now let's dump Fanaika.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2016 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12123568)
Geoff Schwartz, come on down!
Agreed. He'd be a terrific swing linemen for the bench. The chiefs concern right now isn't starters. It's bench depth. We need a few utility linemen who can play multiple positions. In addition to Schwartz we need to find a cheap but effective backup LT.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2016 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 12123489)
What is the cap hit on this move? Kind of a bummer deal. At least the trade wasn't for much
giving Grubbs a new contract immediately was not one of Dorsey's better moves

Grim 03-10-2016 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12123734)
giving Grubbs a new contract immediately was not one of Dorsey's better moves
It wasn't a bad move. We were cap-strapped last year..... couldn't afford his expensive Saints contract.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2016 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Grim (Post 12123748)
It wasn't a bad move. We were cap-strapped last year..... couldn't afford his expensive Saints contract.
There are better way to do it.

Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.

BossChief 03-10-2016 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12123754)
There are better way to do it.

Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.
Free agency is just as much of a gamble as the draft.

If the signing worked out, it would have given us a much stronger OL.

And please, tell us how to manage the cap correctly....ROFL

Grim 03-10-2016 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12123754)
There are better way to do it.

Ways that don't create more dead money


Pretty much the worst thing you can do when dealing with the cap is create dead money.
They didn't redo the contract to generate dead money. They didn't know he wouldn't be able to pass a physical this season when they did it.
If Grubbs could have passed his physical and contributed this year then it would have been considered a good cap move.

Tamba's contract, on the other hand, deliberately created dead money in a season where the Chiefs knew they'd have more cap space to work with.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2016 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12123762)
Free agency is just as much of a gamble as the draft.

If the signing worked out, it would have given us a much stronger OL.

And please, tell us how to manage the cap correctly....ROFL
It was a trade, not FA

I know quite a bit about the cap, at least the old cap.

Dead money is the main thing to be avoided, everything else is workable.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2016 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Grim (Post 12123772)
They didn't redo the contract to generate dead money. They didn't know he wouldn't be able to pass a physical this season when they did it.
If Grubbs could have passed his physical and contributed this year then it would have been considered a good cap move.

Tamba's contract, on the other hand, deliberately created dead money in a season where the Chiefs knew they'd have more cap space to work with.
Of course they didn't do it to intentionally created dead money but giving a guy a new contract when you did have to is risking that.

They could have freed up money using another player that we knew what we had.

DenverChief 03-10-2016 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 12123489)
What is the cap hit on this move? Kind of a bummer deal. At least the trade wasn't for much
$5.2m in dead money and $1.1m in savings.

lcarus 03-10-2016 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12123465)
Grubbs plays OG you dumbass
I don't blame him for not knowing Grubbs. Dude was a shit salad. Might as well have been a WR.

BossChief 03-10-2016 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12123780)
Of course they didn't do it to intentionally created dead money but giving a guy a new contract when you did have to is risking that.

They could have freed up money using another player that we knew what we had.
We have dead money in Grubbs because Dorsey signed him to a deal that was going to be cheap yearly after giving him a decent signing bonus.

If the deal works out, Dorsey looks like the genius he is...but the guy was having trouble changing to a new blocking scheme and then hurt his neck before he could acclimate.

As a fan, I'd love to see Dorsey continue to take shots like that.

It's not always going to work out.

DenverChief 03-10-2016 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 12123974)
$5.2m in dead money and $1.1m in savings.
FWIW cutting Fanaika would leave us $1.1m in dead money and only save $966k


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