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loochy 09-08-2014 11:56 AM

Bob Sutton

You know it's gonna happen

Mav 09-08-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10893770)

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notorious 09-08-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 10893814)
Coaching alone is not going to make these guys cover better.

Hey, remember when we thought Gunther was an All-World DC in the 90s?

Turns out we had actual talent on D back then.

Bring him in for a look?

Discuss Thrower 09-08-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10893819)
Bob Sutton

You know it's gonna happen

No way he survives. Reid staying loyal to his DCs when they were failing ended up getting him run out of Philly.

The Chiefs defense is awful. Sutton will fall on the sword sooner rather than later.

loochy 09-08-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10893835)
No way he survives. Reid staying loyal to his DCs when they were failing ended up getting him run out of Philly.

The Chiefs defense is awful. Sutton will fall on the sword sooner rather than later.

he now has the injury crutch

Mav 09-08-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10893835)
No way he survives. Reid staying loyal to his DCs when they were failing ended up getting him run out of Philly.

The Chiefs defense is awful. Sutton will fall on the sword sooner rather than later.

Yup. The fact that he cant integrate Dee Ford at all, when you have to know that he had some say in getting Dee Ford in here and so did Dorsey, someone has to take the fall on that for not drafting Xavier Sua Filo, or Kelvin Benjamin, or Teddy Bridgewater, someone is going to die on that sword.

It wont be Reid, it wont be Dorsey. It will be Sutton.

And the reason I mentioned Ken Norton Jr. He played in the 3-4 with Dallas, he coaches in the attack 4-3.

And in all honesty, if they want to extend the Career of Hali, they can move him down to end, move Allen Bailey inside with poe, and use Dee Ford like Seattle uses Bruce Irvin. Irvin is a pure pass down pass rusher. That's all he plays.

Mav 09-08-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10893848)
he now has the injury crutch

No he doesn't. Not using FORD at all yesterday is pitiful. you know you are without your best corner in Marcus Cooper, he should of been blitzing from the moment Tennessee got off the ****ing bus.

He has no crutch. NONE. And that's the thing I like about Dorsey knowing he is a Ted Thompson guy, he wont stand for failure.

Chiefnj2 09-08-2014 12:06 PM

The defense was awful yesterday?

Cooper was out and then they lost their only ILB and starting DE to season ending injuries.

The coach and GM made no real effort to upgrade CB or S or ILB in the offseason and the teams top two draft picks aren't good enough to get on the field. This is all Sutton's fault?

The Franchise 09-08-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10893861)
The defense was awful yesterday?

Cooper was out and then they lost their only ILB and starting DE to season ending injuries.

The coach and GM made no real effort to upgrade CB or S or ILB in the offseason and the teams top two draft picks aren't good enough to get on the field. This is all Sutton's fault?

When's the last time that Sutton made an adjustment?

Mav 09-08-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10893861)
The defense was awful yesterday?

Cooper was out and then they lost their only ILB and starting DE to season ending injuries.

The coach and GM made no real effort to upgrade CB or S or ILB in the offseason and the teams top two draft picks aren't good enough to get on the field. This is all Sutton's fault?

The 49ers were without Aldon Smith, Navarro Bowman, lost Chris Culliver early in the game, and still managed ON THE ROAD to stomp out dallas.

And while I can agree that injuries probably hurt the Chiefs, you don't think that Sutton had some pull into drafting Dee Ford, and Gaines, and yet he couldn't incorporate them yesterday at all?

Come on, at some point the blame has to be pointed at the guy you know, running the defense. Andy Reid is an offensive guy.

Mav 09-08-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10893867)
When's the last time that Sutton made an adjustment?

I saw him adjust his belt once.

thabear04 09-08-2014 12:13 PM

Sucks for DeVito come back and get hurt he didn't even play pre season games this year. We sign him for how many years 3 or 2 years?

Mav 09-08-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 10893885)
Sucks for DeVito come back and get hurt he didn't even play pre season games this year. We sign him for how many years 3 or 2 years?

Its probably not going to matter. His age, his size, his career is more than likely over and the chiefs will IR/injury settlement release him.

rabblerouser 09-08-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 10893814)
Coaching alone is not going to make these guys cover better.

Hey, remember when we thought Gunther was an All-World DC in the 90s?

Turns out we had actual talent on D back then.

helluva lot easier to look like a 'genius' with DT, Neil Smith, Saleamua, Dan Williams, Donnie Edwards, Hasty, Carter, Collins, Brian Washington, Jerome Woods, etc.

It doesn't matter what you call.

Remember when everyone (including us) started running the 'Tampa cover 2'??

Turns out that, without Lynch, Brooks, Sapp, Barber, Rice, et al, it's a pretty vanilla defense.

Great players make great plays.

(But only if you hand them the ball, Andy Reid)

rabblerouser 09-08-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10893867)
When's the last time that Sutton made an adjustment?

Not counting when he adjusts his junk in the underwear? ?

In the meantime, they're talking up the job Romeo is doing in Houston on NFLNet right now...


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