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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10450730)

your moving the goal posts.

i said that Hagemon was the closest the chiefs can find a JJ watt type player in this draft. The comparison is between Hagemon and Watt.

Poe ran very fast at his weight, and lifted alot during the bench press. No other player (including Hagemon or Watt) can compare. That is why the chiefs were willing to gamble and draft him in the top 15 from a small school (memphis).

Drafting Hagemon @ 23 is not much of a gamble. How would I define the amount of gamble? It would be a risk/reward ratio. The risk @23 is far less than @15. The "reward" or "upside" is high.

No, you are the one who brought Poe in as justification for taking a chance on Hageman.

There are a bunch of safer prospects who will be available at 23 over Hageman. I wish Hageman would have tested even better so that he can definitely go ahead of our pick and some other team can waste their 1st on him while letting a better player drop to us.

So Hageman is nothing.....Poe is an anomaly......but Donald is absolutely the next Geno Atkins? Arguing over different players with absolutes is ****ing reeruned.

Ealy destroyed the 3 cone. I suppose he won't be around for us, though.

Kony Ealy has the third best 3-cone time (6.83) among DLs since 2006. Tied with Melvin Ingram. That is outstanding.

Official 3-cone times: Kony Ealy 6.83 Jeffcoat 6.97 Marsh 7.08 Donald 7.11 H Jones 7.16 Gayle 7.19 Crichton 7.19 Martin 7.20 Clowney 7.27

273-lb Mizzou DE Kony Ealy completed the 3-cone drill today in 6.83 seconds. For perspective, that's .12 seconds faster than Sammy Watkins

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10450828)

Ealy destroyed the 3 cone. I suppose he won't be around for us, though.

what position do you see him playing for the chiefs?

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10450833)

what position do you see him playing for the chiefs?

I think he's a pretty solid 3-4 end.

@ 273 lbs he is undersized for end. he is about the same size as Hali. http://www.nfl.com/player/tambahali/2506883/profile

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10450858)

@ 273 lbs he is undersized for end. he is about the same size as Hali. http://www.nfl.com/player/tambahali/2506883/profile

He can add weight. He's too slow for me to move him to OLB. 4.91 40, yeash, as if Hali wasn't already slow enough.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10451223)

He can add weight. He's too slow for me to move him to OLB. 4.91 40, yeash, as if Hali wasn't already slow enough.

Dont the chiefs already have a developmental player like that in catapano?

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10451235)

Dont the chiefs already have a developmental player like that in catapano?

Sure, if you're suggesting that Catapano is a top 20 talent? Lol.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10451243)

Sure, if you're suggesting that Catapano is a top 20 talent? Lol.

No, I am stating that Catapano is a developmental 3-4DE.

I actually think the chiefs might have drafted him to play OLB and tried him there during OTA's minicamp. Having failed there they left him on the line. I could be wrong about that though.

I also think that the chiefs carry a finite amount of lineman, and thus cant dedicate too many spots to developmental players.

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Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10451301)

Ealy wouldn't really be "developmental" as much as he'd be a pass rush specialist for us. I wouldn't draft him, you can get the same player, albiet it'll be a more raw version, in Will Clarke in the 4th round.