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Mr. Laz 02-17-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6540244)
Ive said it before a few times and Ill say it again. If we are gonna have a defensive turnaround, these two will have to play a pivotal role in it.

DJ represents one of the best big play linebackers to ever come out of college football and if he can out it all together he can be a MAJOR force for us going forward.

The reason I have continued to support the guy is because of how close he has been to being a really good player for us, he really isnt far off.

He makes a good play in coverage and then drops the easy pick, or he bursts through the line and just misses the qb for a pivotal sack. He reads the keys to a play and reacts quickly to make the stop behind the line but just misses the tackle.

He seems to always be inches from being a absolute game changer/impact player. I hope that whatever it is that isnt letting him get over the hump is remedied and he becomes that guy for us.

time will tell

can't disagree

it's just that DJ has been just inches away his entire career.


hey ... maybe if the level of talent around increases he will get those inches. :shrug:

The Bad Guy 02-17-2010 05:53 PM

I'm happy DJ finally has a real coordinator to play under. From Greg Robinson in college to Gunther to Clancy that's like going through Delta Burke, Carney Wilson and the Snapple Lady in a whore house.

chiefzilla1501 02-17-2010 05:55 PM

In a 3-4, you want your inside linebacker to:

1. Be smart and be in the right position to make plays. DJ doesn't do that. And is in the wrong place more often than he's in the right place.
2. Be strong and be able to shed blockers to attack the run game. Because you have less linemen, it's more likely a blocker will get to the second level. DJ's not a good shedder.
3. Make tackles. We know how well DJ tackles.

In a 3-4, it's nice to have athleticism, but I'd much rather have smart and strong. And DJ is neither of those things. I don't like the way he fits into this defense and I would take any first day value to send him packing.

chiefzilla1501 02-17-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6540244)
Ive said it before a few times and Ill say it again. If we are gonna have a defensive turnaround, these two will have to play a pivotal role in it.

DJ represents one of the best big play linebackers to ever come out of college football and if he can out it all together he can be a MAJOR force for us going forward.

The reason I have continued to support the guy is because of how close he has been to being a really good player for us, he really isnt far off.

He makes a good play in coverage and then drops the easy pick, or he bursts through the line and just misses the qb for a pivotal sack. He reads the keys to a play and reacts quickly to make the stop behind the line but just misses the tackle.

He seems to always be inches from being a absolute game changer/impact player. I hope that whatever it is that isnt letting him get over the hump is remedied and he becomes that guy for us.

time will tell

While that's true on certain key plays, you're also leaving plays out where he's miles away from being around the play.

He's LaVar Arrington. I'd rather a guy who was consistently solid than a guy who's very inconsistently superb.

HemiEd 02-17-2010 05:58 PM

Good, I am sick and tired of seeing this team give up on their own picks early, and then sign some other teams castoffs.

the Talking Can 02-17-2010 06:03 PM

i'd trade dj for a bean and cheese burrito

The Bad Guy 02-17-2010 06:09 PM

In an uncapped year, there is nothing to lose by keeping him.

milkman 02-17-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 6540283)
Good, I am sick and tired of seeing this team give up on their own picks early, and then sign some other teams castoffs.

DJ has been here long enough to establish that he is what he is, an inconsistent player.

Giveing up on him at this point is far from early.

BossChief 02-17-2010 07:10 PM

Lets see what happens with DJ under good coaching.

If we draft a player like McClain in the first, he could help DJ IMHO. It is a big reason I have been on that bandwagon.

tyler360 02-17-2010 07:24 PM

I think that DJ is what he is a very inconsistent player. However seeing as how this d lacks talent we should keep him around and see if the coaches can finally get through to him.

Titty Meat 02-17-2010 08:11 PM

DJ will never be a great player. If he's a starter all he's doing is taking away playing time from someone who could be good.

Marcellus 02-17-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6540377)
DJ has been here long enough to establish that he is what he is, an inconsistent player.

Giveing up on him at this point is far from early.

This x 1,000.

People are ready to bash Cassel and say he has shown his best ability already but defend DJ endlessly.

I have more faith Cassel can improve than I do DJ (Cassel has played much less in his NFL career) and that's not saying a whole lot.


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