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Mecca 10-25-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5151601)
Is Freeman the Flacco of this year's draft? If so, what are the Planet's thoughts on the former's NFL prospects?

For shits and grins, let's say Stafford is off the board when the Chiefs select. Would Freeman be a strong round-two possibility?

I actually think Freeman is more ready because of being in division 1, but that's a solid comparison, big kid, mobile huge arm, although Freemans body is much more NFL ready.

Today I watched alot of Kstate OU and well Freeman made more NFL throws than Bradford by a huge degree.

DeezNutz 10-25-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5151603)
I actually think Freeman is more ready because of being in division 1, but that's a solid comparison, big kid, mobile huge arm, although Freemans body is much more NFL ready.

Today I watched alot of Kstate OU and well Freeman made more NFL throws than Bradford by a huge degree.

I agree with this. He made some very good throws today, under pressure. Plus the kid is one heck of an athlete, for any size, let alone a beast.

I'm solidly on the Stafford bandwagon if he's there with our first pick, but I think there could be a worse plan B than to take an Oher in round 1 and Freeman in round 2.

Either option sounds interesting to me.

Mecca 10-25-2008 09:47 PM

Josh Freeman if you take him, needs coaching. He has great size, huge arm, good mobility especially for a guy that size but his footwork and mechanics get sketchy at times and you can see that he misses some things in reads or just doesn't see defenders at times.

Freeman is a scouts dream physically, if he can be coached to his potential then you got something.

Tribal Warfare 10-25-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5151602)
Michael Johnson is a potential pick, he's 6'7 250 with great measurables and a frame to add weight to.

Brian Orakpo, has the same type of measurables he can bench 515 pounds and has 8% body fat

DeezNutz 10-25-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5151610)
Josh Freeman if you take him, needs coaching. He has great size, huge arm, good mobility especially for a guy that size but his footwork and mechanics get sketchy at times and you can see that he misses some things in reads or just doesn't see defenders at times.

Freeman is a scouts dream physically, if he can be coached to his potential then you got something.

I was impressed with the interview segment that was played during today's game. Did you hear that? He sounded like a smart kid. It struck me that he'll probably go through the roof at the combine.

Mecca 10-25-2008 09:50 PM

I have a hard time believing Orakpo goes higher, his workouts will have to be awesome for that to happen....

Tribal Warfare 10-25-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5151617)
I have a hard time believing Orakpo goes higher, his workouts will have to be awesome for that to happen....

from what I've been hearing he's a freak of nature when it comes to measurables, plus he caan opt to play in the Senior Bowl for more exposure.

milkman 10-25-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5151614)
Brian Orakpo, has the same type of measurables he can bench 515 pounds and has 8% body fat

Orakpo is shorter and doesn't really have the frame to add weight.

Tribal Warfare 10-25-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5151624)
Orakpo is shorter and doesn't really have the frame to add weight.

6'4" is big enough to add some weight, and keep speed.

milkman 10-25-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5151627)
6'4" is big enough to add some weight, and keep speed.

He might be able to add 10 lbs, but anymore than that, it likely affects his speed and quickness.

the Talking Can 10-25-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5151603)
I actually think Freeman is more ready because of being in division 1, but that's a solid comparison, big kid, mobile huge arm, although Freemans body is much more NFL ready.

Today I watched alot of Kstate OU and well Freeman made more NFL throws than Bradford by a huge degree.

you're making some homers very happy!!!

Mecca 10-25-2008 10:06 PM

Well Freeman is a scouts dream there's no denying that, he has everything that makes a guy a riser.

Tribal Warfare 10-25-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5151642)
He might be able to add 10 lbs, but anymore than that, it likely affects his speed and quickness.

Guys like Jevon Kearse, Simeon Rice, Jason Taylor, and Jared Allen succeed with the same skills sets and stature. For me it's Orakpo, Selvie, then Greg Hardy

milkman 10-25-2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5151655)
Guys like Jevon Kearse, Simeon Rice, Jason Taylor, and Jared Allen succeed with the same skills sets and stature. For me it's Orakpo, Selvie, then Greg Hardy

Jason Taylor and Jared Allen are both 6-6.

Physically they compare more favorably to Johnson than Orakpo.

notorious 10-25-2008 10:26 PM

Freeman is a better QB physically than Bradford, and he doesn't have amazing wide receivers to help him out. Bradford is decent, but it is almost impossible not to notice his WR's being 10 yards away from the nearest defender when they get the ball. IMO we know less about Bradford's NFL potential then Stafford or Freeman.

It would be nice to see Freeman drop to the second, but I do not believe there is any way he makes it out of the 1st round.

BUT, with our current coaching staff, I wouldn't let them anywhere near a raw, young QB.

Hell, I wouldn't want them anywhere near a Montana/Elway/Brady/Manning genetically spliced clone!


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