You know what is sad? Jets fans came here en masse and warned us this would happen. Most of us just laughed at them.

:LOL:

Really? I don't remember a lot of laughing AT them.

"He also thinks part of what happened was that maybe the young guys got a little cocky after playing so well in New England"

WTF? They played putrid in NE and were lucky to be in the game.

I absolutely f'n despise Herm's outlook on football. He clearly cannot separate the signal from the noise. [the systematic ability to move the the football and stop the other team from moving the ball vs. the final score (which has a lot of randomness in it -- fumbles, unusual 3rd down conversion rates, etc.)]

To Herm, playing a team close means you played well. A ****ing 7th grader should be able to understand the idiocy of that.

Well, he said some of the young guys made mistakes. He pointed out 125 yards came on 4 runs on 3rd down, and each time a young guy made a mistake, gap-control I think he said.

Not sure how that makes him feel better though. What about the other 175 yards we gave up?

Oh yeah, I remember the whole "No way does he ruin THIS offense", and other such wisdom. The whole argument of how the Chiefs had WAY better talent than the Jets, so he is going to have a chance here, blahblahblah....


Ah, the innocence of youth.

Just once I want to see him come out pissed and yell. Jesus.

someone needs to create a herm quote thread...and update it daily.

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He took the same offense, minus Trent Green and Willie Roaf, to 9-7.

Dick Vermeil had both in 2004 and went 7-9.

Ouch. :D

What a ****ing joke.

Our players.........cocky?!?!?!? What in the holy blue ****ing hell do they have anything to be cocky about.....they ****ing lost 11 games in a row!!!!!

Cant give Larry the ball 25 times a game until the passing game goes downfield.........The problem with that is our playcalling doesn't allow for that to happen..........EVER.

We were only down 6 at halftime...........what he forgets is that we were playing the 2nd worst team in football......at all levels in the OAK Raiders.

Players sound positive......yeah MY ****ING ASS......sounds like LJ is being REALLY positive about what's going on at Arrowhead. I'm more than sure people like Waters and Gonzo are not too happy with whats going on.

Herm's a ****ing joke.

Reason being?
Edwards had a much more balanced team.

Vermeil's offense was much more productive. That team's Achiles Heel was its defense (29th in the NFL).

Teflon Edwards

i'm waiting for Tony Geeeeeeee to go off as well