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Micjones 09-16-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5025385)
Your looking at them today, look at what they have the potential to be.

I believe in the forementioned players.
I do not believe in our QB situation.
We desperately need help there.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-16-2008 12:55 PM

I think we're Lucky we have Colquitt!

I also think hog shit smells bad.

FAX 09-16-2008 12:55 PM

I don't really disagree with any of this, Mr. SNR. Great post.

Actually, I am still waiting for someone to 'splain to me why, if we are, in fact, "rebuilding", wins and losses are so damn important that we have to install the option and the slash attack system.

It seems to me that, when a team "rebuilds", you acquire young guys then let them friggin' play to the very best of their ability (whatever that is). You do that so you can accurately assess their individual talents while allowing them to learn and grow both as players and as a team. That way, you'll know if you do, indeed, need a new QB or WR or TE or FB or DT or whatever at the end of the day. You'll know if your schemes are the best fit for the talent you have. You'll know how best to organize the preparation week to maximize results on the field. Plus, you're giving your young guys "quality" playing time ... time on the big stage to exhibit, challenge, and become accustomed to applying their true, existing skills in an highly competitive framework. Alternatively, if you hold them back, you'll still be guessing about what kind of horses you have in the stable come season's end.

We seem to be caught somewhere in the middle ... protecting the players from themselves, handcuffing the offense, dumbing down the playcalling, and introducing somewhat bizarre tactics in order to eke out cheap wins. After the residual pain from the first two games has somewhat subsided, it's becoming clear to me that, in reality, our actual, first priority is the scoreboard - not building for the future. I'm not saying that Herm wouldn't or doesn't want to see our young guys develop. I'm saying that, apparently, his primary, overriding objective isn't developing these guys for a legitimate run in a year or two or three - it's victories now. Bringing in the option doesn't make any sense, otherwise. It's the only rational justification at all for jumping clear off the bridge of logic and good sense into the murky deeps of Georgia Tech's playbook. From a learning or skill-development perspective, our guys aren't going to benefit from running the damn option. Could it be that, after all is said and done, Herm really is concerned about his job?

FAX

CoMoChief 09-16-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5025293)
Watching the Cowboys last night, we have some of the pieces that they do in young talent.

Bowe - TO
Charles - Felix Jones
Cottam - Whitten (I know he isnt quite the pass catcher but few are)
Albert - Flozzel Adams

We need Croyle to morph into Romo or find Romo in the draft. I think his clone is Oklahoma's Sam Bradford. A Barber type would be nice as well. We are getting closer - Hermie's offense isnt going to cut it but talent wise we are getting there.

Adams got his ass kicked on many passing downs last night.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-16-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 5025270)
I realize that this isn't a popular opinion, but I like Croyle as our QB. If we can develop a right side of the O-line to protect him, I think he'd be fine.


You're exactly right. Thats not a popular opinion. Are you on crack ?

Pitt Gorilla 09-16-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5025394)
Adams got his ass kicked on many passing downs last night.

Adams was also pretty shaky as a rookie. Some thought it was a Trezelle-like selection, IIRC.

Sure-Oz 09-16-2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 5025270)
I realize that this isn't a popular opinion, but I like Croyle as our QB. If we can develop a right side of the O-line to protect him, I think he'd be fine.

If they actually let him throw across the field we can see what he can do. Use that arm, and spread taht defense out. worst case he throws a bunch of pics and find out he isnt our QB

HC_Chief 09-16-2008 01:09 PM

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This offense shouldn't be too hard to fix...
...all we need = a center, right guard, right tackle, quarterback, wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, linebacker, linebacker, safety, cornerback, head coach, defensive coordinator, general manager, and position coaches. :thumb:

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-16-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 5025425)
...all we need = a center, right guard, right tackle, quarterback, wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, linebacker, linebacker, safety, cornerback, head coach, defensive coordinator, general manager, and position coaches. :thumb:


Our cheerleaders need to be replaced tooo!

InChiefsHeaven 09-16-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5025426)
Our cheerleaders need to be replaced tooo!

Oh, come on, they're getting better...they look pretty good from the stands now...

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-16-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 5025452)
Oh, come on, they're getting better...they look pretty good from the stands now...


Only if your in nose bleed.

OctoberFart 09-16-2008 01:34 PM

Get 4 new OL men, a QB, another WR and a decent RB and bam it's fixed. The Key is a new coach would have to be installed to make it all work.

Calcountry 09-16-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 5025270)
I realize that this isn't a popular opinion, but I like Croyle as our QB. If we can develop a right side of the O-line to protect him, I think he'd be fine.

There are a lot of NFL QB's that would be fine behind a pro bowl caliber Oline.

Chief Faithful 09-16-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 5025472)
Get 4 new OL men, a QB, another WR and a decent RB and bam it's fixed. The Key is a new coach would have to be installed to make it all work.

We are not talking about the Raiders right now.

OctoberFart 09-16-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 5025512)
We are not talking about the Raiders right now.

Raiders with as much turmoil and instability they have in the organization are a better off franchise than the Chiefs. I know you guys will pull out some stat for the past couple years but I'm talking right now and you can use whatever stats you want but a 23-8 beatdown in Camarohead says otherwise.


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