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Chiefnj 06-23-2005 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ROYC75
Parker doesn't think so.......I don't either, something we do agree on.

Our DL is a big question mark....If Siavii/Sims/Dalton/Browning becomes animals, OK, I can see it. But keep inmind, we are lacking is quality DE's that are good containment and run stoppers, guys who can take on 2 blockers, same goes for the DT's.

I think we have the speed and players who can tackle in out LB's ( keeping a fingers crossed Mitchell can tackle )

I'm just not sold on the DE's and DT's for a 3-4.
They might be able to get by with Hicks - Dalton - Browning as a base line for 5-10 snaps a game. Any pressure would have to be generated from one of the LB's blitzing.

DaWolf 06-23-2005 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JimNasium
NO doubt. Then we could get Scanlon, Grigsby, D.J., Mitchell, Fox, and Bell on the field at the same time.
I'd just send Scanlon out there and give the rest of the defense a day off...

cmh6476 06-23-2005 07:34 AM
DE Browning
DT Sims/ Junior
DE Allen/ Hicks

OLB Stills
ILB Bell
ILB Mitchell
OLB Johnson

:thumb:

Coach 06-23-2005 07:37 AM
Not sure how the DL will look like, but I'm guessing it'll look like this. :shrug:

DE Browning/Hall
DT Junior/Sims
DE Allen/Hicks

As for the LB's, this is probably the route that Gunther might go for.

OLB Fox
ILB Bell
ILB Mitchell
OLB Johnson

Radar Chief 06-23-2005 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj
They might be able to get by with Hicks - Dalton - Browning as a base line for 5-10 snaps a game. Any pressure would have to be generated from one of the LB's blitzing.
Pretty much the same goes for our base 4-3 also.

morphius 06-23-2005 07:41 AM
I like the idea of changing things up a bit, keep the O guessing.

cmh6476 06-23-2005 07:44 AM
I think if we go 3-4, we put Gary Stills in at OLB because of his speed and his ability to get to the QB.

I can really see Gun using him like he used to use DT. as a pass rush specialist only! :thumb:

KChiefs1 06-23-2005 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
DE Browning/Hall
DT Junior/Sims
DE Allen/Hicks

As for the LB's, this is probably the route that Gunther might go for.

OLB Fox
ILB Bell
ILB Mitchell
OLB Johnson
:clap:

Lzen 06-23-2005 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmh6476
DE Browning/ Hall
DT Junior/ Sims
DE Allen/ Hicks

OLB Fox/Stills
ILB Bell/Scanlon
ILB Mitchell/Scanlon
OLB Johnson/Fujita

:thumb:
Here, I fixed it. ;)

Chiefnj 06-23-2005 08:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar Chief
Pretty much the same goes for our base 4-3 also.
Statistically the DL did pretty well #'s wise with sacks last year.

htismaqe 06-23-2005 08:18 AM
The 3-4 makes sense from a LB perspective, we could get Bell, Johnson, Mitchell, and Fox all on the field at the same time.

The problem is that we don't have the tackles to do it very often. Dalton and Siavii are 4-3 NT but not really 2-gap players, and we all know how bad Sims is...

JimNasium 06-23-2005 08:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe
The 3-4 makes sense from a LB perspective, we could get Bell, Johnson, Mitchell, and Fox all on the field at the same time.

The problem is that we don't have the tackles to do it very often. Dalton and Siavii are 4-3 NT but not really 2-gap players, and we all know how bad Sims is...
We also don't have the DE's to pull it off.

Mr. Kotter 06-23-2005 08:24 AM
I like this idea; if we have the personnel....I love the 3-4....this would be.....

Radar Chief 06-23-2005 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Statistically the DL did pretty well #'s wise with sacks last year.
From what I remember, ‘bout the only one get’n any pressure was Allen. It seems I remember Dalton get’n some solo tackles, but the rest were amazingly unspectacular. Course this is just from memory, and considering the season we had some of my memory was foggy later that day. :BLVD: ;)

Mr. Kotter 06-23-2005 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe
The 3-4 makes sense from a LB perspective, we could get Bell, Johnson, Mitchell, and Fox all on the field at the same time.

The problem is that we don't have the tackles to do it very often. Dalton and Siavii are 4-3 NT but not really 2-gap players, and we all know how bad Sims is...
I think we might be able to put Bell in at a DE to do a DT immitation on 3rd down passing situations--with Savii at DT? .... :hmmm:

The Front Seven would be:

Johnson - Mitchell -Fox/Fujita - Bell (in a three pt on the DL)

Browning/Hicks - Siavii - Allen


:)


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