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RunKC 01-24-2020 09:10 AM

49ers fans might want to get used to the name Mitchell Schwartz. He’s the best RT in football. Has also never allowed a sack to Nick Bosa’s older beother Joey.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitchell Schwartz this postseason<br><br>Pass blocking snaps: 90<br>Pressures allowed: 1 <a href="https://t.co/NtU3ejRJ4n">pic.twitter.com/NtU3ejRJ4n</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1220715420161695752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DRM08 01-24-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14749044)
49ers fans might want to get used to the name Mitchell Schwartz. He’s the best RT in football. Has also never allowed a sack to Nick Bosa’s older beother Joey.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitchell Schwartz this postseason<br><br>Pass blocking snaps: 90<br>Pressures allowed: 1 <a href="https://t.co/NtU3ejRJ4n">pic.twitter.com/NtU3ejRJ4n</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1220715420161695752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think the bigger challenge might be pass rush up the middle. Hopefully the interior OL brings their A game.

Chiefspants 01-24-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14748992)
Serious talk about the 49ers:

After watching the breakdown done by their version of Seth Kaysor, it’s going to be really interesting seeing how the Chiefs attack the 49ers Cover 3 looks.

I’m interested to see if the 49ers try to go to a dime look like San Diego, or if they try to use their nickel set and rely on the speed of Warner and Alexander/Greenlaw to make it work.

That seems to be what their guy thinks San Francisco is going to do.

They tried that, basically, last year, and KC found a ton of success throwing it. They actually ran the ball really poorly despite Hunt’s presence. Ford and Bosa are big additions, obviously, to the 49ers pass rush that change the equation a bit... but it will come down to patience and decision making.

I think the Chargers athleticism in the secondary and specifically Derwin James have been the keys to “slowing” KC (though I think it should be noted KC is averaging 30 PPG against them the past 2 years, with the low output being a game played on a horrible field that negated some of KC’s speed).

Going to be interesting to watch, for sure.

For KC, I think the pass defense will be really interesting. The Chiefs have been excellent-elite against deep passes this year, but Samuel and Kittle’s YAC ability is scary. I expect Spagnuolo to try to muddy up the middle of the field with disguised coverage to help with that, too.

Overall, it’s going to require a really strong fundamental effort all the way around from Kc’s D. DL and LB have to flow and fill their gaps against the zone blocking scheme. LB and secondary have to make sure tackled when the 49ers throw.

Great breakdown. You still feeling 2015 Royals vibes about this team?

rabblerouser 01-24-2020 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14748983)

If your team starts making Superbowls regularly you'll learn that accomplishments without Superbowl wins mean nothing.

Someone should ****ing slap you.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2020 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14749048)
Great breakdown. You still feeling 2015 Royals vibes about this team?


Oh, for sure.

Deebo19 01-24-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14749044)
49ers fans might want to get used to the name Mitchell Schwartz. He’s the best RT in football. Has also never allowed a sack to Nick Bosa’s older beother Joey.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitchell Schwartz this postseason<br><br>Pass blocking snaps: 90<br>Pressures allowed: 1 <a href="https://t.co/NtU3ejRJ4n">pic.twitter.com/NtU3ejRJ4n</a></p>&mdash; PFF (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1220715420161695752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meh...while Nick does move some, he’s usually up against the LT. Ford will be on Schwartz’s side. Who’ll be blocking the two monsters in our middle?

O.city 01-24-2020 09:29 AM

Everyone talking about blocking up the 9ers front 4, justifiably so, they're good.

But do the 9ers have the interior OL to block Chris Jones?

DJ's left nut 01-24-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14749028)
The 49ers secondary is really what is the difference. Derwin James is the best young safety in the league. He’s the only safety that I’ve seen consistently limit YAC from Kelce. They also have damn good corners in Heyward and King.

I think the 49ers secondary has a lot of holes in it. I don’t know why they limit Sherman by lining him up on one side. I mean we could theoretically line up our weakest receiver there and attack the other corners with our best, specifically out of the slot.

If our OL can give Mahomes time, I think he will destroy Mosley, Williams and Witherspoon.

Yeah, I read that thread last night and just didn't feel like phone posting a reply to it.

Ultimately the answer is that if Cover 3 was a panacea, everyone would be doing it. If it was some unbeateable coverage that will shut down elite passing games, it would be THE coverage. Moreover, if it were dominant anytime you generated a pass rush, the 49ers wouldn't have given up 46 to New Orleans or 31 to LAR.

Yes, that's PROBABLY the best answer, but it's the best of bad answers unless you have an all-world safety in the middle of it just wrecking everything.

I'm inclined to say that the general idea is correct - but the conclusion that they're going to have the same success and hold KC in the 20s somehow is overstated.

Deebo19 01-24-2020 09:32 AM

Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

duncan_idaho 01-24-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14749062)
Meh...while Nick does move some, he’s usually up against the LT. Ford will be on Schwartz’s side. Who’ll be blocking the two monsters in our middle?


Monsters?

Armstead and Buckner are good players but “monsters” is a bit extreme.

Laurence Duvarney-Tardiff at RG is really good in pass protection. He has struggled with pure power guys in the past but matches up well with either Buckner or Armstead.

They’ll combo block the other inside guy.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14749071)
Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

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O.city 01-24-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14749071)
Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

You think the expert big money gamblers haven't been watching the 9ers this year?

Are you 12?

The Franchise 01-24-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14749071)
Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

Yeah because none of the experts have ever seen your team play this season.

Deebo19 01-24-2020 09:39 AM

Do you guys promise to play goaline defense like you did against Henry? With a single deep safety, whatever his name is, and linebackers shadowing our RB?

Please please please do!

Ming the Merciless 01-24-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14749071)
Are you guys going to be nervous when the line inevitably shifts into the 49ers favor? You know after the "experts" start actually watching our games?

LOL

The line has shifted from pick...to 1....to barely 1.5....to solidly 1.5...all in the chiefs favor

You think some experts are sitting around watching all of the niners games and suddenly going to go
..."oh...MY...god...these guys are goooooood" and then push a little button to shift the line to 3 points for the niners?

That's not how it works kid....please go sit in the corner, shut the **** up and play with your piddlyshit tonka trucks and let the grown ups talk.


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