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smithandrew051 01-20-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17925345)
I doubt the Chiefs switch Raimann back to LT. They probably keep him at RT, but at least we would have saved mega millions by not paying Jawaan.

That still would’ve been a win for sure.

Can’t complain too much though.

Demonpenz 01-21-2025 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17925204)

shit DT vanished in big moments

ThaVirus 01-21-2025 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17921359)
https://i.imgur.com/z37ST9N.png

Crazy that Albert Lewis is on the Chiefs all time playoff sack leaders.

Yep.

Omenihu might be even crazier. And with 2 FFs!

Couch-Potato 01-21-2025 09:05 AM

What’s his contract extension going to look like?

O.city 01-21-2025 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17926664)
What’s his contract extension going to look like?

Alot more than people on CP will be ok with and or want to pay.

DJ's left nut 01-21-2025 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926668)
Alot more than people on CP will be ok with and or want to pay.

Yeah - I just keep circling back to the Montez Sweat deal.

I don't see a ton of distinction between the two and Sweat got $24.5 million in AAV.

The argument has never been 'Is Karlaftis a good player' -- he absolutely is. I just really don't think he's THAT good. That's not 're-set the market' good, but it's the top of the 2nd tier.

That's top 10 defensive lineman in football money. He's good - he isn't THAT good. But when someone like Rashan Gary gets $24 million/season, that's going to be the starting point for Karlaftis.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17926675)
Yeah - I just keep circling back to the Montez Sweat deal.

I don't see a ton of distinction between the two and Sweat got $24.5 million in AAV.

The argument has never been 'Is Karlaftis a good player' -- he absolutely is. I just really don't think he's THAT good. That's not 're-set the market' good, but it's the top of the 2nd tier.

That's top 10 defensive lineman in football money. He's good - he isn't THAT good. But when someone like Rashan Gary gets $24 million/season, that's going to be the starting point for Karlaftis.

https://overthecap.com/position/edge-rusher

Where's he and his agent gonna argue they slot in there? I'd imagine it's a hell of alot closer to 25 million than 19 million.

RunKC 01-21-2025 09:25 AM

As all things, it will come down to structure. All I care about is what the cap hits are in the first few years and what the dead cap/savings is for when we can cut him

O.city 01-21-2025 09:31 AM

Well, he'll probably get 75 million dollars guaranteed, atleast. So structure however, but unless the guy is an alpha pass rusher that teams plan around, I'm not overly excited about that.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:31 AM

Karlaftis at 25 million a year or Chase Young at 16 million a year

That's not a tough decision right?

irafreak 01-21-2025 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926697)
Karlaftis at 25 million a year or Chase Young at 16 million a year

That's not a tough decision right?

It's not always that simple though. George is best with a strong secondary behind him and a guy that draws the doubles. We have both. That high motor allows for those coverage sacks and Chris Jones flushed the qb his way sacks. He's a great compliment to what we have.

Not saying we should pay big bucks to keep him, just thought chase young had questions about his effort at times.

ReynardMuldrake 01-21-2025 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17921359)
https://i.imgur.com/z37ST9N.png

Crazy that Albert Lewis is on the Chiefs all time playoff sack leaders.

If you told me Frank Clark had more playoff sacks than Derrick Thomas and Chris Jones combined, I would slap you. But you'd be correct.

BossChief 01-21-2025 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926697)
Karlaftis at 25 million a year or Chase Young at 16 million a year

That's not a tough decision right?

Young has 22 sacks in 5 seasons while George has 31.5 in 3.

And is a playoff game changer.

I’d confidently argue to keep George in that scenario.

crispystl 01-21-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17923041)
Wasn't the term Furious George coined here? Or did he have that name in college? I just read an article on SB Nation that called him Furious George. First time that I've ever seen that used outside of CP.

Might've been George Blowfish.

O.city 01-21-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17926705)
It's not always that simple though. George is best with a strong secondary behind him and a guy that draws the doubles. We have both. That high motor allows for those coverage sacks and Chris Jones flushed the qb his way sacks. He's a great compliment to what we have.

Not saying we should pay big bucks to keep him, just thought chase young had questions about his effort at times.

Oh, I'd much rather have Young in that scenario.


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