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Cephalic Trauma 03-28-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10524332)
Yeah I know that, but I don't get people who freak out about something like this. The other day Dyson played DH. I just don't see anything wrong with freaky spring training lineups.

Dyson will never, ever DH in a real game, whereas escobar will probably bat in the second spot on opening day.

CaliforniaChief 03-28-2014 04:33 PM

I'm too lazy to post them all, but AMC (my new moniker for McCullough) just posted a series of tweets on a story about Yost coming back to Milwaukee to drop off a car he had from the last year of his contract. Pretty awesome.

Prison Bitch 03-28-2014 04:39 PM

Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

duncan_idaho 03-28-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10524372)
Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

If Escobar hits as poorly this year as he did last year, you can beat this drum all you want.

But considering the way he plays shortstop and the type of hitting he has shown he is capable of (which is not star level but is also not completely incompetent like he was from May 1 on in 2013), it's premature.

Alcides Escobar absolutely deserves a spot on an MLB roster at this point in time. Even coming off of last season, he's a better SS than many teams are trotting out.

-King- 03-28-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10524372)
Might be a good time to ask why nobody is talking about DM's role in Escobar batting 2nd, since Escobar isn't a guy who should probably even be on the team in the first place. If DM puts him on the roster, Yost can make these dumb decisions. No?

You have some very stupid takes in this thread.

Sure-Oz 03-28-2014 05:04 PM

@jazayerli: If Ned Yost doesn't want to mess with his lineup order, fine. Bat Lorenzo Cain 2nd. Instead of, you know, the worst hitter in MLB last year.

Prison Bitch 03-28-2014 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10524451)
You have some very stupid takes in this thread.

I base all my opinions on analytics, which is probably why you understand almost none of it.

stonedstooge 03-28-2014 05:58 PM

Escobar's defense makes him worth watching

duncan_idaho 03-28-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10524608)
Escobar's defense makes him worth watching

from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

alnorth 03-28-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10524630)
from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

huh? He was worth 6 WAR 2011-12, and had just one bad year. Yeah, he's worth starting.

edit: we also have him signed through 2015 and 2 options after that.

edit2: oh, you were responding to PB. Never mind.

stonedstooge 03-28-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10524630)
from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

I know a lot of people on here and in the news have talked about Escobar bulking up. I'm not sure, but to me he looks HEALTHY. I'm hoping for a big year from him. He didn't look well all of last year.

Prison Bitch 03-28-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10524639)
huh? He was worth 6 WAR 2011-12, and had just one bad year. Yeah, he's worth starting.

It was 3.9. And fell to 1.1 last year. But forget the past because as you probably know: it's irrelevant. OLIVER projects him to fall off the cliff and turn into a massive pumpkin. 0.1 WAR combined the next two seasons with horrendous wRC+ numbers.


http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...10&position=SS

Prison Bitch 03-28-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10524630)
from a roster/team construction standpoint, Escobar's defense makes him worth STARTING as long as he posts a .260/.300/.375 line.

True, but it's very doubtful he'll produce that. He's become almost a carbon copy of Chris Getz in every way.

alnorth 03-28-2014 06:16 PM

Just read McCullough's story on this. If Infante goes on the DL, the KC media appears to be ready to revolt.

stonedstooge 03-28-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10524665)
True, but it's very doubtful he'll produce that. He's become almost a carbon copy of Chris Getz in every way.

Except he may have the strongest arm of any shortstop in the league. Getz :doh!:


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