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TimBone 10-05-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11776878)
Was in Denver for the weekend. I'm not big on the sours thing, though that could be because I haven't had any that were that great. Got to try a Crooked Stave sour that was just fantastic. It definitely had the sour thing going, but then it has a lot of complexity and other flavors lurking just behind it. Other sours I've had just seemed kind of one note.

Also had some Funkwerks Saison which was good, but not as good as I expected for a brewery specializing in saisons. Maybe it was because the Crooked Stave had wrecked my palate, though.

I know you've mentioned that you've been trying a lot of Saisons over the last year. Have you had a problem where you're running into some that lean to the sour side?

NewChief 10-05-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11776884)
I know you've mentioned that you've been trying a lot of Saisons over the last year. Have you had a problem where you're running into some that lean to the sour side?

I've definitely run into some where the citrus notes are so dominant that they're "sour," but I wouldn't really qualify them as sours. Once again, though, I'm not really that familiar with sours.

phisherman 10-05-2015 12:17 PM

Crooked Stave puts out excellent sour beers.

Though some traditional European Saisons have a bit of tartness from wild yeast, American brewers have really moved the Saison style more towards American Wild Ale territory with their prodigious use of barrels and different bacteria.

TimBone 10-05-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11776903)
I've definitely run into some where the citrus notes are so dominant that they're "sour," but I wouldn't really qualify them as sours. Once again, though, I'm not really that familiar with sours.

I'm extremely sensitive to sour, and I would certainly consider some farmhouse ales to be sour beers. For example, Goose Islands Gillian was almost a chore for me to finish because of how sour it was. My mouth almost felt raw after finishing the bottle.

Some breweries are kind enough to label them sour farmhouse ales. Meanwhile, others I have no clue about until the first sniff or sip.

scho63 10-05-2015 08:28 PM

Had a couple of these today-they are produced in a local brewery less than a mile away. A little strong and really tasty!

http://www.mustlovebeer.com/public/a...753.jpg?c=7bd9

http://in.worldclassbeer.com/wp-cont...lantBottle.jpg

phisherman 10-05-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11778188)
I'm extremely sensitive to sour, and I would certainly consider some farmhouse ales to be sour beers. For example, Goose Islands Gillian was almost a chore for me to finish because of how sour it was. My mouth almost felt raw after finishing the bottle.

Some breweries are kind enough to label them sour farmhouse ales. Meanwhile, others I have no clue about until the first sniff or sip.

That's interesting. I've had Gillian a few times and to my palate, it feels fairly balanced and just a little bit tart. Madame Rose is the one you need to avoid also, if you see it; that stuff will cause some serious pucker. It's good but it'll scrape your palate something fierce.

TimBone 10-05-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 11778296)
That's interesting. I've had Gillian a few times and to my palate, it feels fairly balanced and just a little bit tart. Madame Rose is the one you need to avoid also, if you see it; that stuff will cause some serious pucker. It's good but it'll scrape your palate something fierce.

Damn, man. Maybe I'm just too sensitive to it. Is there a chance the tartness varies year to year? Mine was a 2013. Even if it varies, it probably wouldn't be much of a difference. It's likely just my palate.

TimBone 10-05-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 11778296)
That's interesting. I've had Gillian a few times and to my palate, it feels fairly balanced and just a little bit tart. Madame Rose is the one you need to avoid also, if you see it; that stuff will cause some serious pucker. It's good but it'll scrape your palate something fierce.

Thanks for the heads up on Madame Rose. I tend to stay away from wild ales though, specifically because of beers like you just mentioned.

NewChief 10-16-2015 11:04 AM

Forbes just put out a 13 best Craft Beers in America list. I'll save you the click bait and list them. Pretty heavy East Coast bias, to say the least. ROFL
http://www3.forbes.com/lifestyle/the...-in-america/2/

1. Gose, Lost Nation, Vermont
2. Peeper Ale, Maine Beer Company, Maine
3. Three Philosophers, Ommegang, New York
4. Supplication, Russian River, California
5. Lunch, Maine Beer Company, Maine
6. Rigor Mortis, Dieu Du Ciel, Quebeca
7. Sue, Hill Farmestead, Vermont
8. Bourbon County Stout, Goose Island, Illinois
9. Abner, Hill Farmstead, Vermont
10. Heady Topper, The Alchemist, Vermont
11. Mastermind, Fiddlehead, Vermont
12. Focal Banger, The Alchemist, Vermont
13. Susan, Hill Farmstead, Vermont

TimBone 10-16-2015 12:29 PM

Damn...I can't believe Three Philosophers made that list. I mean, it's good....but c'mon. Top 13 in America?

Sassy Squatch 10-16-2015 12:49 PM

http://beerpulse.com/wp-content/uplo...K-12OZ-BTL.jpg
Boulevard Wheat and this is all I need.

Pablo 10-16-2015 04:02 PM

That root beer is alright I guess. I enjoy root beer quite a bit, but couldn't see myself putting down a six pack of those things. Way too sweet.

OnTheWarpath15 10-16-2015 04:42 PM

Curious as to what you guys think of Collaboration #5.

KCUnited 10-16-2015 04:50 PM

I had Collab 5 for the first time at the brewery while in town last week. I was expecting a bigger citrus punch in the face, but enjoyed it nonetheless. I thought it was a super juicy PA and hope to find it up here.

TimBone 10-16-2015 04:52 PM

I haven't had it. Sounds very good. I just missed it at the Brewery when I was in town.

I didn't care much for Collaboration #4, though. I thought it was kinda bland.


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