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dallaschiefsfan 03-28-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10524139)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Yost's reasoning on batting Escobar 2nd: He doesn't want to mess with rest of the order. &quot;I’ve got my guys lined up, where I want them.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/449664522216026112">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If you excuse me, I'm going to duck now.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/449664559520161792">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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And this is why Yost is going to eventually be fired. To his credit, he's learned several lessons from his failures. Lineup construction - which is admittedly overrated - and in-game tactics will continue to dog him. He simply has no "feel" for those types of things. Escobar should never bat anywhere other than last until or unless he proves he can take a walk OR hit above .300 consistently.

duncan_idaho 03-28-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10524159)
I don't get this. If you can't teach a 17 year old how to be an average 1st baseman there is something wrong. (unless he's a midget)

1st base doesn't really count as a defensive position. If a guy is 17 and the thought is that he's either a LF or a 1B, they really don't have a true defensive position.

Duenez has a small chance of sticking in LF, but most think he's 1B only.

alnorth 03-28-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10524145)
:facepalm:

This better not be the case when Infante is in the lineup.

Not sure you understood. Infante isn't in Milwaukee, so Yost decided to replace him with Escobar.

duncan_idaho 03-28-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10524139)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Yost's reasoning on batting Escobar 2nd: He doesn't want to mess with rest of the order. &quot;I’ve got my guys lined up, where I want them.&quot;</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/449664522216026112">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If you excuse me, I'm going to duck now.</p>&mdash; Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/statuses/449664559520161792">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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alnorth 03-28-2014 04:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>That last RT is just a spectacular display of wrong. Too many jokes to choose just one, but Yost really wants to bat MLB&#39;s worst hitter 2nd.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/statuses/449666235689472000">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If you or someone you know loves Ned Yost, talk some sense into him. I know the Royals watch this account. Someone help him.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/statuses/449666452455321600">March 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Three7s 03-28-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 10524169)
And this is why Yost is going to eventually be fired. To his credit, he's learned several lessons from his failures. Lineup construction - which is admittedly overrated - and in-game tactics will continue to dog him. He simply has no "feel" for those types of things. Escobar should never bat anywhere other than last until or unless he proves he can take a walk OR hit above .300 consistently.

There is no excuse for having a .240 hitter batting 2nd over a proven, consistent hitter in Infante. Completely stupid.

alnorth 03-28-2014 04:09 PM

I think I've written 100 posts pushing back against lineup overreactions. The order for #2-#5 or #3-#6 shouldn't matter, but this is too much.

You put your bad hitters #8 and #9 for one simple reason: you don't want them to bat more often than they have to. Putting your #9 at #2 is stupid unless he's some OBP freak with infield dirt power (which isn't Escobar), and even then its very questionable.

-King- 03-28-2014 04:09 PM

Is a spring training lineup where the projected #2 hitter is injured such a big deal?

alnorth 03-28-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10524212)
There is no excuse for having a .240 hitter batting 2nd over a proven, consistent hitter in Infante. Completely stupid.

He's not batting 2nd instead of Infante.

Infante is in Arizona, and Yost is bumping Escobar up to #2 to replace him.

Obviously what he should do is bat Gordon 2nd when Infante is not playing, but Escobar should be safely at the bottom if Infante is healthy.

Three7s 03-28-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10524241)
He's not batting 2nd instead of Infante.

Infante is in Arizona, and Yost is bumping Escobar up to #2 to replace him.

Obviously what he should do is bat Gordon 2nd when Infante is not playing, but Escobar should be safely at the bottom if Infante is healthy.

I figured that's what it was for, but judging by the tweets, it wasn't made perfectly clear.

Cephalic Trauma 03-28-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10524234)
Is a spring training lineup where the projected #2 hitter is injured such a big deal?

If it carries over into the regular season where we have a legitimate shot to contend in a tight race, then yes.

alnorth 03-28-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10524249)
I figured that's what it was for, but judging by the tweets, it wasn't made perfectly clear.

Infante has been #2 all spring, and Yost has said many, many times that he's going Aoki-Infante at the top.

So, if Infante is healthy (knock on wood), then we have nothing to worry about, but batting Escobar 2nd if Infante is not available is so stupid, it warrants a big twitter reaction.

If nothing else, we now have another reason to care a lot about Infante's elbow.

Sure-Oz 03-28-2014 04:15 PM

Escobar should never bat higher than 9th

BlackHelicopters 03-28-2014 04:17 PM

No sense at all to this.

-King- 03-28-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10524260)
If it carries over into the regular season where we have a legitimate shot to contend in a tight race, then yes.

Yeah I know that, but I don't get people who freak out about something like this. The other day Dyson played DH. I just don't see anything wrong with freaky spring training lineups.


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