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htismaqe 03-18-2022 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198986)
Probably.

But I would've been much happier.

And that's really what matters.
LOL

At least you're honest about it. :D

smithandrew051 03-18-2022 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198986)
Probably.

But I would've been much happier.

And that's really what matters.
Very selfish for Veach not to consider this. I hope SR sends him a strongly worded Facebook message.

htismaqe 03-18-2022 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198981)
It's just really simple to figure out especially when you do the 2-year view of the transaction (which you should ALWAYS do because of rollover and the easy of manipulating June 1 tags, etc...).

Brett Veach valued Frank Clark at roughly a $8-9 million/yr player plus incentives. That's what we gave him in 'new' money vs. cutting him.

That's what could've gone to Arden Key or Derek Barnett or Charles Omenihu or a slew of other options.

Veach just continues to have a blind spot for Frank Clark.

Told you sonsabitches...
To be clear, they could have given that new money to someone but they'd still have to find the cap space because of Clark's dead cap hit. He was going to cost about $13M this year no matter how you slice it.

Dante84 03-18-2022 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16198990)
Very selfish for Veach not to consider this. I hope SR sends him a strongly worded Facebook message.
Dear Brett,

Take a hike bucko!

Yours truly,
- SR

The Franchise 03-18-2022 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16198993)
To be clear, they could have given that new money to someone but they'd still have to find the cap space because of Clark's dead cap hit. He was going to cost about $13M this year no matter how you slice it.
Right and they chose keeping Clark on this team because they need bodies at this point. I don’t like it but I can see why they did it.

DaKCMan AP 03-18-2022 10:06 AM
Still a lot of 1-year stopgap guys for DL..
Jadeveon Clowney, Calais Campbell, Melvin Ingram, Akiem Hicks, Matt Ioannidis, Sheldon Richardson, Quinton Jefferson, Johnathan Hankins, Trey Flowers, Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes

Potential longer-term guys with change of scenery..
Justin Jones, Derek Barnett, Shy Tuttle, Maurice Hurst, Dante Fowler, Arden Key, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Takk McKinley

Red Dawg 03-18-2022 10:06 AM
Obviously Clark is still here because of money. Money he's owed and our lack of money to get a better player. Either way I think Veach is learning that losing that Bengals game ****ed us not only out of the SB but in FA. Players are no longer looking at us as the best destination in the AFC anymore.

We are still a very good option but not as attractive as we were prior to that loss.

-King- 03-18-2022 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198968)
But I was told the dead money went away...
Yeah I didn't understand why people thought you were wrong. It was classified as a restructure, not a paycut. The money had to go somewhere

htismaqe 03-18-2022 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16199003)
Yeah I didn't understand why people thought you were wrong. It was classified as a restructure, not a paycut. The money had to go somewhere
I think because people trusted what they were reading on Twitter instead of just trusting their own gut on the situation.

Like you and DJ said, money doesn't just disappear. Which is why so many of us were waiting to see the actual contract - the numbers being reported over the last couple of days just didn't make any sense (and in some cases, still don't because of obvious errors).

DaKCMan AP 03-18-2022 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 16199000)
Still a lot of 1-year stopgap guys for DL..
Jadeveon Clowney, Calais Campbell, Melvin Ingram, Akiem Hicks, Matt Ioannidis, Sheldon Richardson, Quinton Jefferson, Johnathan Hankins, Trey Flowers, Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes

Potential longer-term guys with change of scenery..
Justin Jones, Derek Barnett, Shy Tuttle, Maurice Hurst, Dante Fowler, Arden Key, Al-Quadin Muhammad, Takk McKinley
Just like that... Justin Jones gone to Chicago after Ogunjobi failed his physical.

ToxSocks 03-18-2022 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16199001)
Obviously Clark is still here because of money. Money he's owed and our lack of money to get a better player. Either way I think Veach is learning that losing that Bengals game ****ed us not only out of the SB but in FA. Players are no longer looking at us as the best destination in the AFC anymore.

We are still a very good option but not as attractive as we were prior to that loss.
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DJ's left nut 03-18-2022 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16198993)
To be clear, they could have given that new money to someone but they'd still have to find the cap space because of Clark's dead cap hit. He was going to cost about $13M this year no matter how you slice it.
Yeah, you'd have to June 1 him and then move some of Thuney's money around to free up some space prior to the cap compliance deadline. But since you're keeping Thuney next year anyway, it really doesn't matter. There's no harm, no foul there.

Just keep focused on the $8 million we're paying him. The rest are just shell games.

That's where people lost the thread a few nights ago.

TambaBerry 03-18-2022 10:25 AM
Come on Veach it's my birthday today, KU dominated last night. Give me a present

smithandrew051 03-18-2022 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16199054)
Come on Veach it's my birthday today, KU dominated last night. Give me a present
The Chiefs have signed Mitch Lightfoot

TambaBerry 03-18-2022 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16199071)
The Chiefs have signed Mitch Lightfoot
He's too old


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