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booger 03-18-2022 09:44 AM

Maybe Ronald Jones or Sony Michel at RB. Draft one or two in the 7th

htismaqe 03-18-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198917)
Ha! So they did give him a signing bonus and give him $8.3 million in new money.

Yeah - tell me more about what I'm not understanding, Twitter Tards.

Yep.

Spotrac's table is incorrect for the "signing bonus" field. The contract description is correct:

Quote:

Frank Clark signed a 2 year, $30,175,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $4,550,000 signing bonus, $8,275,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,087,500. In 2022, Clark will earn a base salary of $3,725,000, a signing bonus of $4,550,000 and a roster bonus of $900,000, while carrying a cap hit of $13,700,000 and a dead cap value of $21,875,000.
They gave him $9M in new money, essentially and lowered his overall cap hit by a smidge but upped his dead money in both years.

New World Order 03-18-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16198914)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark’s 2022 base salary on the restructure dropped from $19M to $3.725M. His 2023 base salary remains the same at $20.5M. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1504832704470257674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So we’re eating an extra 7 million instead of just cutting him? Am I reading this correctly?

Dante84 03-18-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16198901)
I was going to create a separate thread about this...but I was looking at just how "****ed" our roster is talent wise.



So basically our needs are:

RB2 - McKinnon or Day 3 rookie
WR2 - Vet - Free Agent signing needed (Or Trade)
WR4/5 - Day 1 or Day 2 rookie
DE1 - Vet - Free Agent signing needed (Or Trade)
DE3 - Day 1 or Day 2 rookie
DT2 - Any round rookie or random vet
LB3 - Day 3 rookie or random vet
LB4 - Day 3 rookie or random vet
CB3 - Any round rookie or random vet
CB5 - Day 3 rookie or UDFA
S3 - Any round rookie or random vet

Yeah that LOOKS like a tons of needs but most of those positions aren't being filled by big name FAs or top 100 draft picks. Just getting a DT, DE, WR and CB in the top 100 of this draft would go along way to making this team better.

I think if we can land 2 veteran, solid players at those spots, I'll feel good heading into the draft.

htismaqe 03-18-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16198923)
Anyone still want to defend this?

There's not much to defend. If they cut him after this season, they're essentially paying an extra $2M over 2 years to get his body instead of cutting him and trying to find someone else.

It's a pure short-term cap move that actually makes next year marginally worse.

AT BEST, it's a cap neutral move. At best.

Titty Meat 03-18-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16198848)
Here's OTC for Clark.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per <a href="https://t.co/c4sdxY9FRD">https://t.co/c4sdxY9FRD</a> , here are Frank Clark’s restructure numbers in full. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/aWkQ4LJ2wt">https://t.co/aWkQ4LJ2wt</a> <a href="https://t.co/hXFFOK4uUp">pic.twitter.com/hXFFOK4uUp</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1504839552904609853?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brutal

htismaqe 03-18-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16198935)
So we’re eating an extra 7 million instead of just cutting him? Am I reading this correctly?

We're not eating anything until we cut him. That's when the dead cap money hits.

DaKCMan AP 03-18-2022 09:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chicago Bears are not signing Larry Ogunjobi because of a failed physical, per the team.</p>&mdash; Courtney Cronin (@CourtneyRCronin) <a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1504846323341737998?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 03-18-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16198933)
Yep.

Spotrac's table is incorrect for the "signing bonus" field. The contract description is correct:



They gave him $9M in new money, essentially and lowered his overall cap hit by a smidge but upped his dead money in both years.

But I was told the dead money went away...

RunKC 03-18-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16198940)
There's not much to defend. If they cut him after this season, they're essentially paying an extra $2M over 2 years to get his body instead of cutting him and trying to find someone else.

It's a pure short-term cap move that actually makes next year marginally worse.

AT BEST, it's a cap neutral move. At best.

Yeah the team also needs bodies. We have no starting DE’s without Clark. Gonna need to use those draft picks to get more impact players on the cheap

htismaqe 03-18-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198968)
But I was told the dead money went away...

Well, to be fair, that's what several people with blue check marks were reporting. Hard to know what's real and what's not until we can see the contracts ourselves and even then, who knows (Spotrac appears to have the numbers correct but not in all the right places, there's errors in the tables to be sure).

The Franchise 03-18-2022 09:58 AM

Nobody is defending the Clark move. They could have cut him and saved a couple of million in dead cap space next year. They’d also be sitting here with Danna and Kaindoh as their DEs….while they had their dicks in their hands.

They chose a lukewarm body in Clark over the extra cap space next season.

And if they had cut Clark and done nothing like they are…people would be bleeding out of their vaginas about that too.

DJ's left nut 03-18-2022 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16198940)
There's not much to defend. If they cut him after this season, they're essentially paying an extra $2M over 2 years to get his body instead of cutting him and trying to find someone else.

It's a pure short-term cap move that actually makes next year marginally worse.

AT BEST, it's a cap neutral move. At best.

It's just really simple to figure out especially when you do the 2-year view of the transaction (which you should ALWAYS do because of rollover and the easy of manipulating June 1 tags, etc...).

Brett Veach valued Frank Clark at roughly a $8-9 million/yr player plus incentives. That's what we gave him in 'new' money vs. cutting him.

That's what could've gone to Arden Key or Derek Barnett or Charles Omenihu or a slew of other options.

Veach just continues to have a blind spot for Frank Clark.

Told you sonsabitches...

DJ's left nut 03-18-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16198979)
Nobody is defending the Clark move. They could have cut him and saved a couple of million in dead cap space next year. They’d also be sitting here with Danna and Kaindoh as their DEs….while they had their dicks in their hands.

They chose a lukewarm body in Clark over the extra cap space next season.

And if they had cut Clark and done nothing like they are…people would be bleeding out of their vaginas about that too.

Probably.

But I would've been much happier.

And that's really what matters.

The Franchise 03-18-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198986)
Probably.

But I would've been much happier.

And that's really what matters.

A lot of people would have been but I can see why they kept him.

He’s gone after this season and so far we’ve yet to miss out on guys like Key.


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