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Dunerdr 12-19-2024 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17864838)
Veach would be smart to do everything he can to sign Omenihu to a long term deal this off-season. The injury and suspension should give leverage to get a nice 3-4 year value deal signed that has a ton of performance escalators built in. He helps drive this defense to another level.

Ohminihu has been pretty vocal on socials about how he thinks he should be payed. I hope you are right but not convinced he will take any kind of bargain deal.

htismaqe 12-19-2024 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17865027)
Ohminihu has been pretty vocal on socials about how he thinks he should be payed. I hope you are right but not convinced he will take any kind of bargain deal.

Yeah. His socials pretty much look like a guy who is betting on himself.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17865029)
Yeah. His socials pretty much look like a guy who is betting on himself.

Yeah - I don't imagine we'll get an early deal done with him.

He'll have to go into the market and if he's retained, we'll have to do so in a competitive bid environment (or if the market just doesn't come together for him).

If he's not back, someone as good or better has to be brought in. We can't do this again next season. Jones can't continue to shoulder this kind of burden.

Dunerdr 12-19-2024 12:01 PM

Really like CO, I wanted us to trade for him from the Texans. I’d love to retain him. But I think our only hope is that a market doesn’t materialize.

BossChief 12-19-2024 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17865027)
Ohminihu has been pretty vocal on socials about how he thinks he should be payed. I hope you are right but not convinced he will take any kind of bargain deal.

He’s not going to get some crazy offer in FA. He hits the market and we should be able to retain his services. Especially after the suspension and then injury.

He’s a difference maker and will be worth more than his actual market value if he’s able to stay out of trouble/the tub.

UChieffyBugger 12-19-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17864881)
He's not that type of player.

Like has been mentioned, when he's your 2nd/3rd pass rusher, youre sitting pretty. When he's the guy? Nah, that ain't gonna work.

With where we draft and the way we play, we are gonna be the team that has 3/4 guys that are good not great and can all really play. Which is fine and preferable as there are always guys like Omenihu in FA that can come in and do that.

Hendrickson never had anywhere near the same start to his career that George has had. Neither did Omenihu and both are studs now. Putting George in a box when the kid just 23 years old isn't logical.

UChieffyBugger 12-19-2024 01:23 PM

I don't think Omenihu is gonna demand to be the highest paid DE out there. Hopefully he can be fair and meet Veach in the middle. Especially after not even playing a full season with us in his two years here. He's missed eighteen games thus far.

JohnnyHammersticks 12-19-2024 01:51 PM

Wonder what's going on with BJ Thompson. I watched game 17 vs Chargers last year a couple times, and when he came in during the 3rd quarter he actually looked like he might have potential. I'm not one of our resident FAU-haters, but I will say that BJ looked a lot better than Felix did in that game.

UChieffyBugger 12-19-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17865301)
Wonder what's going on with BJ Thompson. I watched game 17 vs Chargers last year a couple times, and when he came in during the 3rd quarter he actually looked like he might have potential. I'm not one of our resident FAU-haters, but I will say that BJ looked a lot better than Felix did in that game.

Still dealing with the major health scare he had in training camp. Good that we can sit him for a year and still have him on a rookie deal.

BossChief 12-19-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17865261)
I don't think Omenihu is gonna demand to be the highest paid DE out there. Hopefully he can be fair and meet Veach in the middle. Especially after not even playing a full season with us in his two years here. He's missed eighteen games thus far.

It doesn’t matter what he demands. It matters what the market deems as his value.

When he hit FA 2 years ago, he was only able to get a 2/20 prove it deal and promptly got suspended then blew out his ACL. His value hasn’t increased much, if at all during his time here.

If someone wants to offer him 20m aav, he’s likely gone…but I’m sure BV will fight to keep him and understands his importance to this defense.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17865529)
It doesn’t matter what he demands. It matters what the market deems as his value.

When he hit FA 2 years ago, he was only able to get a 2/20 prove it deal and promptly got suspended then blew out his ACL. His value hasn’t increased much, if at all during his time here.

If someone wants to offer him 20m aav, he’s likely gone…but I’m sure BV will fight to keep him and understands his importance to this defense.

I think we'll just have to wait him out and hope we can get something along the lines of 3/$36 done.

Much more than that I don't think we'll be the ones that sign him, precisely because of the injury and suspension issues. He's just not done much to improve his marketability.

JohnnyHammersticks 12-19-2024 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17865325)
Still dealing with the major health scare he had in training camp. Good that we can sit him for a year and still have him on a rookie deal.

Was aware of that, just wondered if there had been any updates on his health status since Andy's rather vague one in October.

BossChief 12-19-2024 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17865536)
I think we'll just have to wait him out and hope we can get something along the lines of 3/$36 done.

Much more than that I don't think we'll be the ones that sign him, precisely because of the injury and suspension issues. He's just not done much to improve his marketability.

I can see a 4/60 deal or 3/40-45. Depending on the increase to the cap, of course.

Which either would be bank robbery for us, I believe he has proven to be a plus player that fits everything Spags, Andy and Brett want from the position.

Length, build, explosion, awareness, core strength, versatility and production.

louie aguiar 12-25-2024 02:50 PM

George has really turned it on the past few games - seemed to coincide with Omenihu’s return

ThaVirus 12-25-2024 03:53 PM

He looked incredible today.


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