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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-01-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13394377)
No but if you look at “because Chiefs” history there’s more of a chance he doesn’t play or perform vs he does something of substance.

Plus we’re talking about Dee Ford right? That alone means we’re probably right.

Veach needs to package his ass yesterday. If there's ANYTHING to be had, GO GET IT.

BigRedChief 02-02-2018 12:41 AM

Brit Chiefs Mahomes hype video

https://youtu.be/wqmQZw3G_Kw

BigRedChief 02-02-2018 10:27 PM

Falling off to almost the 3rd page. Time to put this into the Hall of Fame?

milkman 02-03-2018 05:25 AM

Sing it.
You know the song

Oh happy day
(Oh happy day)
Oh happy day

When KC agreed
(When KC agreed)
When they agreed
(When they agreed)
To trade Alex Smith away!

Oh happy day.

ChiefRocka 02-03-2018 06:49 AM

Think about how deep that voice will be after 2 rings

Bewbies 02-03-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13398404)
Sing it.
You know the song

Oh happy day
(Oh happy day)
Oh happy day

When KC agreed
(When KC agreed)
When they agreed
(When they agreed)
To trade Alex Smith away!

Oh happy day.

I’m hearing this like it’s in Sister Act. LMAO

The Franchise 02-05-2018 12:58 PM

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carcosa 02-05-2018 01:29 PM

Great trade!!!!!

bigjosh 02-05-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13403046)
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They still called cousins before they called fuller. Lmao

RealSNR 02-11-2018 11:30 PM

This is some lame fantasy football podcast that strokes it to advanced metrics, but good lord these guys nailed it

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RealSNR 02-11-2018 11:32 PM

"Chiefs had 26 total dropped passes last year... only 1.7 per game, one of the best rates in the NFL."

Hmmm.... whaaaat? I thought our receivers couldn't catch a ****ing cold? Dropped balls left and right!

T-post Tom 02-12-2018 01:39 AM

Alex Smith “jacked” about how things worked out
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/11/alex-smith-jacked-about-how-things-worked-out/

Neither the trade sending him to Washington nor the four-year extension he’s agreed to can become official for more than a month, but Alex Smith isn’t letting that get in the way of his planning.

Smith said on the Murph & Mac podcast last week that he and his wife have already been scouting out possible places to live once he’s officially a member of the Redskins.

“I’m jacked. I’m really excited,” Smith said, via the Washington Post. “Once I found out that things in Kansas City were going in a different direction, I was pumped at the opportunity, and when Washington came calling I was hopeful that that was a possible destination, and I’m just jacked that it worked out. They wanted me because the feeling was mutual, and I’m looking forward to it.”

Smith will be playing his 13th NFL season in 2018 and he’s heard from people who think he is on the back end of his playing career. Smith, who stands to make up to $94 million under the terms of his proposed extension, does not feel that way and said he “can’t see the horizon at this point.” A good first season with his new team will likely push thoughts of retirement over the horizon for others as well.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 02:32 AM

LMAO

Dude is bitter.

You'll never have it better than you had it here with cheat codes Kelce and Hill, you wuss.

Enjoy a roster full of middling offensive talent devoid of elite players. I'm sure you will be "jacked" by plenty of defenders in 2018.

cooper barrett 02-12-2018 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413311)
"Chiefs had 26 total dropped passes last year... only 1.7 per game, one of the best rates in the NFL."

Hmmm.... whaaaat? I thought our receivers couldn't catch a ****ing cold? Dropped balls left and right!

That statistic is flawed, take ant game and show me where we didn't drop 2.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 02:57 AM

Sure thing, Coop.

It's only flawed for the Chiefs, too. Not any other team! Those drop stats are legitimate! In fact, they're flawed in the OPPOSITE direction. Every other team's receivers should be ranked higher, and the Chiefs 32nd.

In fact, the Chiefs pass protection ratings were all flawed, too! They should be ranked MUCH lower. MUCH MUCH lower.

It's just amazing that with all those shitheads ****ing everything up around him Alex Smith managed to drag the Chiefs to a Top 5 season on offense.

Dumbass.

GloryDayz 02-12-2018 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13413334)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/11/alex-smith-jacked-about-how-things-worked-out/

Neither the trade sending him to Washington nor the four-year extension he’s agreed to can become official for more than a month, but Alex Smith isn’t letting that get in the way of his planning.

Smith said on the Murph & Mac podcast last week that he and his wife have already been scouting out possible places to live once he’s officially a member of the Redskins.

“I’m jacked. I’m really excited,” Smith said, via the Washington Post. “Once I found out that things in Kansas City were going in a different direction, I was pumped at the opportunity, and when Washington came calling I was hopeful that that was a possible destination, and I’m just jacked that it worked out. They wanted me because the feeling was mutual, and I’m looking forward to it.”

Smith will be playing his 13th NFL season in 2018 and he’s heard from people who think he is on the back end of his playing career. Smith, who stands to make up to $94 million under the terms of his proposed extension, does not feel that way and said he “can’t see the horizon at this point.” A good first season with his new team will likely push thoughts of retirement over the horizon for others as well.

So... He just got a wake up call and, by God, he's going to answer it this time. LMAO

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GloryDayz 02-12-2018 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13413340)
That statistic is flawed, take ant game and show me where we didn't drop 2.

Yes, he would need to get the ball to the receiver for it to count as dropped.

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RealSNR 02-12-2018 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13413340)
That statistic is flawed, take ant game and show me where we didn't drop 2.

How the **** is it flawed? 26 total dropped passes on the year. 1.7 per game. One of the lowest in the NFL in 2017.

That's nothing more than descriptive statistics for a set of data. A total number and an average. A first grader with a ****ing calculator could understand it.

RealSNR 02-12-2018 06:20 AM

"The lack of dropped passes and supporting cast efficiency are why Alex Smith's true passer rating of 113.1, good for #1 in the NFL last year, was so artificially high."

"Kansas City receivers generated more separation yards than any other receiver group in the league."

Now we're getting into the PFF bullshit stats, but guess what-- Sandy, Tigger, and ChiefsPASquirrelTits' precious passer rating stat is nothing more than a made-up advanced metric of sorts as well.

This shit puts to bed any notion at all that Alex Smith is some precious commodity that we're really going to miss. If Smith's supporting cast of offensive weapons puts up remotely a HINT of the efficiency they did in 2017, Mahomes will probably dwarf Alex Smith in passing yards and TDs in 2018. He's probably going to ****ing push 5000, I imagine.

DaNewGuy 02-12-2018 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413378)
"The lack of dropped passes and supporting cast efficiency are why Alex Smith's true passer rating of 113.1, good for #1 in the NFL last year, was so artificially high."

"Kansas City receivers generated more separation yards than any other receiver group in the league."

Now we're getting into the PFF bullshit stats, but guess what-- Sandy, Tigger, and ChiefsPASquirrelTits' precious passer rating stat is nothing more than a made-up advanced metric of sorts as well.

This shit puts to bed any notion at all that Alex Smith is some precious commodity that we're really going to miss. If Smith's supporting cast of offensive weapons puts up remotely a HINT of the efficiency they did in 2017, Mahomes will probably dwarf Alex Smith in passing yards and TDs in 2018. He's probably going to ****ing push 5000, I imagine.

don't give me wood this early in the morning

cooper barrett 02-12-2018 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413377)
How the **** is it flawed? 26 total dropped passes on the year. 1.7 per game. One of the lowest in the NFL in 2017.

That's nothing more than descriptive statistics for a set of data. A total number and an average. A first grader with a ****ing calculator could understand it.

Except what was and was not dropped. I don't think a lot of drops aren't counted.

Mother****erJones 02-12-2018 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13390202)
You guys gave up 2 2nds and give him away for a 3rd and some depth dude.

Epic.

LOL god you’re a dumbass! Third and Kendall Fuller the best slot corner and possibly young corner in the game.

duncan_idaho 02-12-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413310)
This is some lame fantasy football podcast that strokes it to advanced metrics, but good lord these guys nailed it



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Alex Smith is the football Antichrist. And glad he's been exorcisms from Kansas City. I feel somewhat bad about dumping this blasphemous sack of chickenshit mediocrity on Washington ... but then remember our five years of purgatory, and don't.

Mother****erJones 02-12-2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13392345)
Even Bronco Fans, who think they now have a better shot at Cousins, hate this deal. Veach killed it on this one.

My buddy is a Raiders fan and Virginia Tech fan. Hated this deal lol.


Just getting around to reading this thread. Glad I waited because I would’ve went off on the Alex homers too lol. Denver fan boys on here thinking we got a “depth dude” is hilarious. This thread is as crazy as Twitter was while I was on it in suspense of what the compensation was.

Rausch 02-12-2018 08:21 AM

Love or hate Alex this is probably the most impressive trade KC has made since Montana hit town.

"Well, Kansas City to the Super Bowl," said a former 49ers linebacker, Matt Millen...

threebag 02-12-2018 10:31 AM

https://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/W...1692857597.jpg

Show me where Alex touched you

wazu 02-12-2018 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413310)
This is some lame fantasy football podcast that strokes it to advanced metrics, but good lord these guys nailed it

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This was so much fun.

King_Chief_Fan 02-12-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13390202)
You guys gave up 2 2nds and give him away for a 3rd and some depth dude.

Epic.

I can't believe how many times you show up here to let us all know how stupid you are...you can stop now, we know.

BigBeauford 02-12-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13413658)

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Sign up for your free Extreme Skins account today!

threebag 02-12-2018 11:13 AM

Maybe you should have signed up for a Jets board in 2013 :thumb:

Gravedigger 02-12-2018 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 13413379)
don't give me wood this early in the morning

I woke up with some, why didn't you?

RealSNR 02-12-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13413658)

We just got a mid 3rd and a young 1st round talent CB with two years left on his rookie deal who was the best nickel corner in the NFL last year. We saved a **** ton of cap room, AND we get to start our young 1st round guy at QB.

ALL for a 34 year old conservative game manager QB with only one year left on his deal.

I'm gonna still be doing my happy dance clear into August on this one. I'm celebrating.

bigjosh 02-12-2018 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13413761)
We just got a mid 3rd and a young 1st round talent CB with two years left on his rookie deal who was the best nickel corner in the NFL last year. We saved a **** ton of cap room, AND we get to start our young 1st round guy at QB.

ALL for a 34 year old conservative game manager QB with only one year left on his deal.

I'm gonna still be doing my happy dance clear into August on this one. I'm celebrating.

https://m.popkey.co/7f8430/b0kJK.gif

threebag 02-12-2018 11:59 AM

Ho Lee Shit, he did something good...

duncan_idaho 02-12-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13413710)
Maybe you should have signed up for a Jets board in 2013 :thumb:


And what would have been missed?

Regular season wins and a lone playoff victory against the legendary Houston Texans, QBed by the awesome Bryan Hoyer, and two of the biggest playoff choke jobs in NFL history.

Alex Smith's best contribution to the Chiefs is what they get for him when they finally wised up and told him to GTFO.

BigBeauford 02-12-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13413710)
Maybe you should have signed up for a Jets board in 2013 :thumb:

Geno argument? Please regale us on how amazing Fisher has been. If memory serves me right, he was a bottom 10 Offensive tackle his first two years, was almost moved to right tackle, and continues to be mediocre to average. I get it, Geno Smith sucks ass, but drafting him would have at least been an attempt at moving the franchise forward with the blueprint for actual playoff success. Instead, we still wasted 5 years of time with a retread QB, who we dumped anyways. And you stanning for a QB who is not going to be with our organization is just as pathetic as what you are trying to paint me as.

BigBeauford 02-12-2018 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13413784)
And what would have been missed?

Regular season wins and a lone playoff victory against the legendary Houston Texans, QBed by the awesome Bryan Hoyer, and two of the biggest playoff choke jobs in NFL history.

Alex Smith's best contribution to the Chiefs is what they get for him when they finally wised up and told him to GTFO.

I would understand the regular season win angle, if Smith was at least an entertaining QB to watch. But the dude is the Toyota Camry of QBs. Just an appliance with no excitement.

AssEaterChief 02-12-2018 12:47 PM

March 14th cannot come soon enough…

KCrockaholic 02-12-2018 01:57 PM

A dumbass on Facebook on the Chiefs page: "Nice spin job Chiefs but....Our Coach cost us our losses (not Alex Smith, not any one in particulars injuries). Spinning Mahomes start/win they forgot to mention that it was to a terrible team and letting Smith go was a big mistake."

And that's the most liked comment from that post. Is our fanbase really this ****ing stupid? #ChiefsKingdumb4Life

saphojunkie 02-12-2018 01:57 PM

If Kansas City had the fewest drops in the league, perhaps it's because Alex Smith chooses to run into the arms of waiting defensive linemen while there is no pressure.

Can't drop them if you don't throw them.

But Alex and I are 100% in agreement: I, too, am jacked that he's going to Washington.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-12-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13413991)
A dumbass on Facebook on the Chiefs page: "Nice spin job Chiefs but....Our Coach cost us our losses (not Alex Smith, not any one in particulars injuries). Spinning Mahomes start/win they forgot to mention that it was to a terrible team and letting Smith go was a big mistake."

And that's the most liked comment from that post. Is our fanbase really this ****ing stupid? #ChiefsKingdumb4Life

Gotta avoid FB comments at all costs. You’ll lose brain cells in a hurry.

BigCatDaddy 02-12-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13414044)
Gotta avoid FB comments at all costs. You’ll lose brain cells in a hurry.

Yes. If you were to look up Butt ****ing Morons in a thesaurus the first entry is "sports fans commenting on Facebook".

KChiefs1 02-12-2018 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13413334)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/11/alex-smith-jacked-about-how-things-worked-out/



Neither the trade sending him to Washington nor the four-year extension he’s agreed to can become official for more than a month, but Alex Smith isn’t letting that get in the way of his planning.



Smith said on the Murph & Mac podcast last week that he and his wife have already been scouting out possible places to live once he’s officially a member of the Redskins.



“I’m jacked. I’m really excited,” Smith said, via the Washington Post. “Once I found out that things in Kansas City were going in a different direction, I was pumped at the opportunity, and when Washington came calling I was hopeful that that was a possible destination, and I’m just jacked that it worked out. They wanted me because the feeling was mutual, and I’m looking forward to it.”



Smith will be playing his 13th NFL season in 2018 and he’s heard from people who think he is on the back end of his playing career. Smith, who stands to make up to $94 million under the terms of his proposed extension, does not feel that way and said he “can’t see the horizon at this point.” A good first season with his new team will likely push thoughts of retirement over the horizon for others as well.


https://twitter.com/burgundyblog/sta...85105529004032

jjchieffan 02-12-2018 02:53 PM

I just don't understand the continued loathing of Smith. The process worked, and he was a big part of the process. Had we drafted Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel, or Paxton Lynch, who are all colossal busts, would this team be in the enviable position that it's in now? I highly doubt it. First of all, drafting any other first round quarterback the last 5 years would have drastically reduced the chance that we drafted Mahomes. Secondly, a winning environment has been built here in that time frame. Mahomes comes in with weapons at WR, TE, and RB, as well as a respectable offensive line. He is setup to succeed. If Mahomes turns out to be half of what we are hoping for, the next few years could be the best for this franchise since Superbowl IV. And let's not forget what we got in return for Smith. The Chiefs are primed to be a true contender for years to come. Thanks in part to them bringing in Alex Smith 5 years ago. I was frustrated with his play too. But I, for one, am glad that it worked out the way that it did. You haters need to open your eyes. You know that I'm right.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13414076)
I just don't understand the continued loathing of Smith.

You're married to someone for five years. They make you miserable the entire time. No sex. You get divorced.

In the divorce you get a lot of money and a house.

You don't stop loathing that person.

ptlyon 02-12-2018 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13414080)
You're married to someone for five years. They make you miserable the entire time. No sex. You get divorced.

In the divorce you get a lot of money and a house.

You don't stop loathing that person.

I always knew sex was at the bottom of this between you Alexis

KCrockaholic 02-12-2018 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13414083)
I always knew sex was at the bottom of this between you Alexis

Alex only wanted missionary, but the hot ass down the street is a big dick gunslinger.

RealSNR 02-12-2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13414076)
I just don't understand the continued loathing of Smith. The process worked, and he was a big part of the process. Had we drafted Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel, or Paxton Lynch, who are all colossal busts, would this team be in the enviable position that it's in now? I highly doubt it. First of all, drafting any other first round quarterback the last 5 years would have drastically reduced the chance that we drafted Mahomes. Secondly, a winning environment has been built here in that time frame. Mahomes comes in with weapons at WR, TE, and RB, as well as a respectable offensive line. He is setup to succeed. If Mahomes turns out to be half of what we are hoping for, the next few years could be the best for this franchise since Superbowl IV. And let's not forget what we got in return for Smith. The Chiefs are primed to be a true contender for years to come. Thanks in part to them bringing in Alex Smith 5 years ago. I was frustrated with his play too. But I, for one, am glad that it worked out the way that it did. You haters need to open your eyes. You know that I'm right.

Trading for him was a cowardly move when it occurred. I get that the Chiefs scouts and Dorsey were in agreement that they weren't willing to touch a single QB in the 2013 draft. That's fine. If that's what you're actually dealt, then punt into next year. Don't give up 2 2nd rounders and hand out an extension to a guy who's never going to get the job done for you.

It's only by the grace of God that Dorsey and company fell in love with Mahomes and were able to snag a cheap trade up with Buffalo to get him before Houston, Arizona, New Orleans, and the NYG could make deals happen. Yes, Dorsey deserves 100% of the credit for making the trade up happen, but he needed a bit of luck. He needed Mahomes to last until 10, and he needed Buffalo to be stupid, AND he needed the other teams to not outsmart him at the pass. Any one of those things goes wrong and we're STILL likely saddled with Alex freakin Smith.

InChiefsHeaven 02-12-2018 03:04 PM

I'm amazed at the amount of idiots out there who think we got screwed on this trade and that getting rid of Alex was the worst thing we could do. I mean, I have friends who are fans of other teams who think that but they don't really watch the Chiefs...so I guess they get a pass. But these friggin' moron "true fan" idiots...blech...seriously, I can't stand their posts and comments.

Patty-cakes gotta light it up so I can look at these twits and just smile...

jjchieffan 02-12-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13414080)
You're married to someone for five years. They make you miserable the entire time. No sex. You get divorced.

In the divorce you get a lot of money and a house.

You don't stop loathing that person.

I look at it more like the Motley Crue song Don't Go Away Mad.

I knew it all along
I'd have to write this song
Too young to fall in love
Guess we knew it all along

That's alright, that's okay
We were walking through some youth
Smilin' through some pain
That's alright, that's okay
Let's turn the page

In other words, no need to be mad, just move on.

jjchieffan 02-12-2018 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13414092)
Trading for him was a cowardly move when it occurred. I get that the Chiefs scouts and Dorsey were in agreement that they weren't willing to touch a single QB in the 2013 draft. That's fine. If that's what you're actually dealt, then punt into next year. Don't give up 2 2nd rounders and hand out an extension to a guy who's never going to get the job done for you.

It's only by the grace of God that Dorsey and company fell in love with Mahomes and were able to snag a cheap trade up with Buffalo to get him before Houston, Arizona, New Orleans, and the NYG could make deals happen. Yes, Dorsey deserves 100% of the credit for making the trade up happen, but he needed a bit of luck. He needed Mahomes to last until 10, and he needed Buffalo to be stupid, AND he needed the other teams to not outsmart him at the pass. Any one of those things goes wrong and we're STILL likely saddled with Alex freakin Smith.

I disagree. I don't see it as cowardly as all. Smith was able to return the team to respectability and hold the reins until the right quarterback came available. The only quarterback that was worth drafting prior to Mahomes was Carr. Carr would have been nice. But I'm happy with Mahomes. We'll see who has the best career. If Mahomes is no better than average, then they probably messed up waiting so long. But if he ends up a generational talent, then it was worth every snap that Smith took.

Frazod 02-12-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13413661)
This was so much fun.

This was awesome. If it's been posted before, I haven't seen it. LMAO

Shields68 02-12-2018 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13414108)
I disagree. I don't see it as cowardly as all. Smith was able to return the team to respectability and hold the reins until the right quarterback came available. The only quarterback that was worth drafting prior to Mahomes was Carr. Carr would have been nice. But I'm happy with Mahomes. We'll see who has the best career. If Mahomes is no better than average, then they probably messed up waiting so long. But if he ends up a generational talent, then it was worth every snap that Smith took.

+1, So we traded 2-2nds for a guy who played 5 years and averaged 10 wins a year, then we trade him for a starting CB and a third. Seems like a good deal. He got us to the playoffs and gave us a chance, is he Brady, Ben or Peyton? No but he also did not have a lot of weapons at wr the first several years, he is what he is a slightly above average QB. Hopefully Mahomes is well above average.

Red Dawg 02-12-2018 04:49 PM

It was a brilliant move. Any thoughts that is was a bad move is plain old crazy.

staylor26 02-12-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13414245)
It was a brilliant move. Any thoughts that is was a bad move is plain old crazy.

You’re the ****ing idiot that said we should just cut him because he had no trade value

Tombstone RJ 02-12-2018 05:07 PM

It was a boss trade for KC, flat out rape of Washington. W.t.h was Washington thinking? Reid was probably giggling like a school girl the whole time...

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 13414302)
It was a boss trade for KC, flat out rape of Washington. W.t.h was Washington thinking? Reid was probably giggling like a school girl the whole time...

Seems like the Redskins have a bit of a Stockholm Syndrome thing going on with Reid since he's already raw dogged them once before.

staylor26 02-12-2018 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 13414302)
It was a boss trade for KC, flat out rape of Washington. W.t.h was Washington thinking? Reid was probably giggling like a school girl the whole time...

Remember when you swore we wouldn’t get shit for Alex? ****ing moron. It wasn’t just Washington either. We were getting a nice haul either way.

loochy 02-12-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13414263)
You’re the ****ing idiot that said we should just cut him because he had no trade value

and not just once

he harped on it in every thread
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Hoover 02-12-2018 05:26 PM

Alex Smith accomplished exactly what the Chiefs wanted him to accomplish. Nobody here thought that Smith was the QB to lead this team to a championship, but he proved to be capable in leading this team to the playoffs. Mahommes is the QB to take this team to next step.

Smith was a steal for this franchise.

Cost us two second rounders up front, got a top CB and third rounder back.
For his five years years here we paid him 67 million so like 13.4 million a year. Which is not bad for a QB that started 76 games and played pretty well.

The sky is the limit with Mahommes, but Alex allowed us time to find the QB we wanted and we had decent success while we waited.

duncan_idaho 02-12-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13414108)
I disagree. I don't see it as cowardly as all. Smith was able to return the team to respectability and hold the reins until the right quarterback came available. The only quarterback that was worth drafting prior to Mahomes was Carr. Carr would have been nice. But I'm happy with Mahomes. We'll see who has the best career. If Mahomes is no better than average, then they probably messed up waiting so long. But if he ends up a generational talent, then it was worth every snap that Smith took.


His level of play was so average, they could have returned to respectability with Reid and a lot of cheaper options at QB.

I'm glad they have Mahomes and have finally moved on from Alex Smith. They got lucky and had that work out.

I'd rather have spent 2013 and 2014 picks that went to San Fran on cheap young players at other positions.

They overpaid to be not terrible at QB. Could have paid less for cheaper placeholders.

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13414360)
His level of play was so average, they could have returned to respectability with Reid and a lot of cheaper options at QB.

I'm glad they have Mahomes and have finally moved on from Alex Smith. They got lucky and had that work out.

I'd rather have spent 2013 and 2014 picks that went to San Fran on cheap young players at other positions.

They overpaid to be not terrible at QB. Could have paid less for cheaper placeholders.

Meh. We went from the literal worst team in the league to the playoffs in the first year of Reid/Smith. I know it doesn't appeal to anyone here, but the team needed to appeal to the crowd that just wanted to see a competent football team again. Shit was ****ing dire the last 2 or so years of the Pioli era.

Hoover 02-12-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13414360)
His level of play was so average, they could have returned to respectability with Reid and a lot of cheaper options at QB.

I'm glad they have Mahomes and have finally moved on from Alex Smith. They got lucky and had that work out.

I'd rather have spent 2013 and 2014 picks that went to San Fran on cheap young players at other positions.

They overpaid to be not terrible at QB. Could have paid less for cheaper placeholders.

WTF?

Dude, good luck finding a QB that will suit up and be healthy for almost five years. Seriously. It's like you all forgot about the Haurd, Thigpen, Croyel, Brady Quinn, Orton, Cassel shit show years.

jjchieffan 02-12-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13414360)
His level of play was so average, they could have returned to respectability with Reid and a lot of cheaper options at QB.

I'm glad they have Mahomes and have finally moved on from Alex Smith. They got lucky and had that work out.

I'd rather have spent 2013 and 2014 picks that went to San Fran on cheap young players at other positions.

They overpaid to be not terrible at QB. Could have paid less for cheaper placeholders.

Tell me who was available in 2013 that could have provided equivalent play and been a steady placeholder until we found Mahomes.

staylor26 02-12-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13414360)
His level of play was so average, they could have returned to respectability with Reid and a lot of cheaper options at QB.

I'm glad they have Mahomes and have finally moved on from Alex Smith. They got lucky and had that work out.

I'd rather have spent 2013 and 2014 picks that went to San Fran on cheap young players at other positions.

They overpaid to be not terrible at QB. Could have paid less for cheaper placeholders.

What an awful take. It couldn’t have worked out any better for us and to chalk it up as getting “lucky” when we aggressively made a move to go get our guy is beyond ****ing reeruned.

Mother****erJones 02-12-2018 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13414412)
What an awful take. It couldn’t have worked out any better for us and to chalk it up as getting “lucky” when we aggressively made a move to go get our guy is beyond ****ing reeruned.

Didn’t know trading up 17 spots for a QB is “lucky” good to know. Lol at his use of lucky. How did we get so lucky STaylor26? Sometimes you have to ignore the idiots man.

BigCatDaddy 02-12-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13414407)
Tell me who was available in 2013 that could have provided equivalent play and been a steady placeholder until we found Mahomes.

Carson Palmer. Cards stole him for a 5th and made a conference title game.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13414431)
Carson Palmer. Cards stole him for a 5th and made a conference title game.

Chiefs could have won 0 playoff games at home with Matt Moore or Josh McCown too...

Andy Reid claimed Mike Vick off the scrap pile and got to the playoffs with him.

Alex Smith was overpaid for in trade and then overpaid again with the contract extension.

Hoover 02-12-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13414442)
Chiefs could have won 0 playoff games at home with Matt Moore or Josh McCown too...

Andy Reid claimed Mike Vick off the scrap pile and got to the playoffs with him.

Alex Smith was overpaid for in trade and then overpaid again with the contract extension.

You have ZERO appreciation for the going rate for QBs.

Chiefs paid Smith 67 million, about 13.5 million a year.

A lot of money sure, but not for a QB that is going to start pretty much every game for five seasons.

Red Dawg 02-12-2018 06:45 PM

Palmer would have been better but we got Mahomes and now Fuller. Glad we went the route we did.

Hoover 02-12-2018 06:46 PM

Palmer would have never stayed upright in KC with our Oline for the past five years.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13414454)
You have ZERO appreciation for the going rate for QBs.

Chiefs paid Smith 67 million, about 13.5 million a year.

A lot of money sure, but not for a QB that is going to start pretty much every game for five seasons.

From 2014-2016 we paid starter's money for a QB who delivered backup QB play.

He was vastly, vastly overpaid those three seasons.

That is the appreciation I have for Alex Smith vs "the going rate."

Hoover 02-12-2018 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13414464)
From 2014-2016 we paid starter's money for a QB who delivered backup QB play.

He was vastly, vastly overpaid those three seasons.

That is the appreciation I have for Alex Smith vs "the going rate."

Keep digging the hole, you sound like an idiot/

Four playoff appearances in 5 years.
Back to Back AFC West Champions

Yeah, we have not done shit in the playoffs, got it. That does not equal a over paid QB. In fact Alex has been decent in play off games.

He was not over paid.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13414469)
Four playoff appearances in 5 years.
Back to Back AFC West Champions

ROFLROFLROFL

You act like he was the driving force behind all of that shit.

Defense and running game did the heavy lifting for this team for four damn seasons, while he played like Damon ****ing Huard circa 2006.

But Andy overpaid for his previous QB too so...not surprising.

Kiimo 02-12-2018 07:04 PM

You know, both things can be true. He can be not really responsible for getting us to the playoffs, not really responsible for the losses and still be slightly underpaid, which he was.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 07:29 PM

Damon Huard averages per start in 2006:

210.5 yards
1.25 TD
$88,750

Alex Smith averages per start, 2013-2016

222.4 yards
1.24 TD
$880,327

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

Don't tell me we didn't overpay for Alex Smith.

Don't you ****ing DARE.

threebag 02-12-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13414385)
WTF?

Dude, good luck finding a QB that will suit up and be healthy for almost five years. Seriously. It's like you all forgot about the Haurd, Thigpen, Croyel, Brady Quinn, Orton, Cassel shit show years.

He was a Broncos fan back then.

threebag 02-12-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13414454)
You have ZERO appreciation for the going rate for QBs.

Chiefs paid Smith 67 million, about 13.5 million a year.

A lot of money sure, but not for a QB that is going to start pretty much every game for five seasons.

It's Geno or Bust for Claynus

Sassy Squatch 02-12-2018 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13414507)
Damon Huard averages per start in 2006:

210.5 yards
1.25 TD
$88,750

Alex Smith averages per start, 2013-2016

222.4 yards
1.24 TD
$880,327

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

Don't tell me we didn't overpay for Alex Smith.

Don't you ****ing DARE.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

So your basis for the Chiefs overpaying Alex Smith is Damon Huard and his breakout season where he had the 2nd best Quarterback Rating, which he had while performing on a contract for a 3rd string QB? Good ****ing LORD, I've seen you cherry pick shit before, but this takes the cake.

Hammock Parties 02-12-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13414526)
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

So your basis for the Chiefs overpaying Alex Smith is Damon Huard and his breakout season where he had the 2nd best Quarterback Rating, which he had while performing on a contract for a 3rd string QB? Good ****ing LORD, I've seen you cherry pick shit before, but this takes the cake.

Because Huard immediately signed a lucrative deal to be a starting quarterback after that season. ROFL

He was still being paid backup money when he signed an extension following that season, because he performed at a backup QB level.

As Alex did for four seasons.

Overpaid, period.


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