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*****The Josh Simmons Thread***** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=357948)

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18042395)

You do realize that many people will be saying the same thing about Simmons in a few years if this doesn't work out?

"He never was!" Well, you don't know that.

Yes I do. Simmons is a top 5 talent…..Lucas was a middle round talent. Very different.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 18042425)

I don’t think there’s any doubt he plays, it’s how long and at what level.

Maybe he’s the first to buck the trend, but it’s like a poor person’s retirement plan is purchasing lottery tickets and hoping for a miracle.

That's gonna be what they will have to do. I just don't understand it because they did a lottery ticket with the Moore signing in FA.

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 18042407)

Can we just give him every PED imaginable?

League is rigged for the Chiefs anyway. They’d never punish our LT and risk Mahomes getting hit.

Okay - THIS I can get behind.

Juice this ****er, stat.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 18042422)

what a ****ing bear, man

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DAWG <a href="https://t.co/7DiZSrcGbN">pic.twitter.com/7DiZSrcGbN</a></p>— The Kingdom (@MahomeSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomeSZN/status/1915624436054594007?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hes only squatting 225 right now

Instead of having any offensive linemen, any defensive player who hits Mahomes should just be executed on the field immediately.

That would put a stop to this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18042423)

You expect me to remember exactly all the who's?

I can tell you who did, that I know of, and that's Jack Conklin and Jason Peters. I'm not aware of any others that had any substantial career afterwards and Conklin has kind of been up and down with injuries since.

Two guys tore them last year on the OL, Cole Strange of NE and D'Ante Smith of CIN. Smith probably won't matter, he's at the bottom of the barrel. Strange is a starter though and is only 26.

He's not paying attention. He's been spoon fed it a half dozen times and then just says 'nuh uh'

Ya…the franchise is in decline sadly. Clear ra-ra desperation.

Kinda cringe to see almost all of you downvote raw, scientific data and beat yourselves off to tape that won’t ever be reproduced ever again. So much cope honestly that you can’t deny that there has to be an underlying feeling within the community that things are falling apart.

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 18042436)

Yes I do. Simmons is a top 5 talent…..Lucas was a middle round talent. Very different.

I don't think Simmons pre-injury is a better prospect than Campbell and Membou.

He would have been very good. Probably top 15. A very good LT prospect.

We don't know what Niang would have been pre-injury. A lot of teams really liked him before shit went south.

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 18042431)

This is the crucial point that many in here are missing.

We're not just rolling the dice on an average case for this injury. So it's not like we have a player who just got injured yesterday and we're mapping out the odds of his future without having any of the relevant details.

We have medical professionals looking at the specifics of THIS CASE post-surgery and after some meaningful level of recovery. If you think our medical team is a bunch of ****ing morons, then fine. If you think Reid and Veach were so desperate for this pick despite the fact that we traded back a slot to take him, then fine.

But there's real evidence the team did real work on the medicals and felt like he's probably going to be in the top 10% of whatever recovery study people want to throw out there.

So please, spare us all with the bland statistics. We have a case 1 of 1 with unique details, and the team clearly felt good enough to go in this direction.

Yep. I think the missing element in the studies that people are quoting is that the teams absorbed the injury when the player was on the team. It's not like they had the option to not have the player on the team.

The Chiefs looked at Mr. Simmons after the injury and recovery. They had the opportunity to pass on him if they weren't seeing recovery. So that brings up the question of when it's possible to tell that a player is making a strong recovery or not. The Chiefs are obviously comfortable that they're evaluating Mr. Simmons at a point in time where his recovery can be thoroughly evaluated, and they're comfortable with it.

I don't care if only 20 percent of players come back if we're able to determine that he's in that 20 percent before we draft him.

Man look at that guy ****ing MOVE

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big plays start up front �� <a href="https://t.co/ZPoivbDYPV">pic.twitter.com/ZPoivbDYPV</a></p>— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1915621842485649857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can't comment on Simmons health. But he's my 6th overall player in the class. Tier 1 player for me. If he's physically right, this is the steal of the draft. <a href="https://t.co/PBhQ4ulJt0">https://t.co/PBhQ4ulJt0</a></p>— Jon Ledyard (@LedyardNFLDraft) <a href="https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1915612249948921940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Really would’ve been disappointed with this pick as a reach at #31 but since they traded down I’m like :drool:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The QB1 seal of approval. <a href="https://t.co/mfGhOq5Bv5">pic.twitter.com/mfGhOq5Bv5</a></p>— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1915626321457119309?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He could have his leg amputated and play on a peg leg, and he's better than what we have.