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Mecca 02-11-2025 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17964325)
wait why can’t we just sign Stanley or at the very least Cam Robinson? not enough cap space? we don’t necessarily need a HOFer we just need someone reliable and competent. Stanley had a really good season last year.

then we can use our top picks on RB, IOL, and DL. Maybe a corner if a good one is sitting there

Ronnie Stanley is probably getting tagged if they don't work out a deal.

Also this is again a cap vs cash question, is Clark Hunt going to be willing to dole out a massive amount of guaranteed money to sign a proven LT a long with what it will take to keep the guys they need to keep?

staylor26 02-11-2025 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17964354)
Exactly. HUGE mistake. No hindsight needed.

What veteran TEX? You keep bitching in hindsight with zero solutions even with that benefit.

Mecca 02-11-2025 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17964370)
What veteran TEX? You keep bitching in hindsight with zero solutions even with that benefit.

I hate these conversations, like what was your solution? What are these names?

Wanna be ridiculous, the Chiefs probably win the SB this year if they keep Orlando Brown, no one wanted to do that though. I mean we are literally at a spot where when you say sign a vet you're saying you wanted to go Donovan Smith or David Bahktieri who the rest of the league determined have nothing left...

And this isn't a shot at you ST I'm agreeing with you.

RunKC 02-11-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17964356)
I swear I started reading this sentence and thought to myself "he must be overreacting to the Senior Bowl rep like everybody else" and sure enough LMAO

He was lining up at RT, not his natural position, and it was one rep.

Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him

htismaqe 02-11-2025 12:22 PM

Everybody needs to remember that OBJ was available for trade because Baltimore wanted THAT badly to keep Ronnie Stanley at LT. They aren't letting him just walk.

Mecca 02-11-2025 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17964379)
Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Noir sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him

I will bet you that Josh Simmons goes in the top 15 picks, he was the #1 OT before injury, a team picking like 12 isn't gonna let a guy that should go top 5 pass by.

staylor26 02-11-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17964375)
I hate these conversations, like what was your solution? What are these names?

Wanna be ridiculous, the Chiefs probably win the SB this year if they keep Orlando Brown, no one wanted to do that though. I mean we are literally at a spot where when you say sign a vet you're saying you wanted to go Donovan Smith or David Bahktieri who the rest of the league determined have nothing left...

And this isn't a shot at you ST I'm agreeing with you.

It all comes from the need to blame. Somebody has to be held accountable! That kind of stuff makes sense a lot of the time, but not when you're a dynasty and as close to perfect as you can realistically be.

They didn't just ignore it. Humphries was that vet, and on paper, it was as good of a bet as any FA that was available in the offseason, but since it didn't work, these morons pretend they didn't do what they are bitching about when they did.

staylor26 02-11-2025 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17964379)
Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him

Oh no not at all. Small trade up or take him at 31 preferably. I think he has a legit shot at LT though. He's getting beat up way too much for that rep.

Mecca 02-11-2025 12:26 PM

At the end of the day it's a bit of an evaluation problem. The Orlando Brown trade was fine for what it was, but I guess they didn't take into account he was going to have ridiculous contract demands.

Those contract demands have left us here because we decided "we can't pay him that" so here we are. Pretty sure when that trade was made they thought Brown would hold down LT for at least 5-7 years.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17964388)
It all comes from the need to blame. Somebody has to be held accountable! That kind of stuff makes sense a lot of the time, but not when you're a dynasty and as close to perfect as you can realistically be.

They didn't just ignore it. Humphries was that vet, and on paper, it was as good of a bet as any FA that was available in the offseason, but since it didn't work, these morons pretend they didn't do what they are bitching about when they did.

It happens every time, regardless of position or player.

htismaqe 02-11-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17964379)
Not trading value resources to move up for this guy.

Josh Simmons? Maybe
Aireontae Ersery? Worth lookin into

Not sold on Conerly, especially since we have to trade up to get him

The whole point in taking Conerly is that he's a guy you wouldn't have to give up a whole bunch of picks. And he could start right away. The tape doesn't lie. You may not be impressed with his measurables but you are the guy that started this thread.

Trade whatever possible? Or not?

staylor26 02-11-2025 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17964399)
It happens every time, regardless of position or player.

To further prove your point, both of those guys were part of that same WR discourse the last 2 years. They've clearly moved on.

RunKC 02-11-2025 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17964401)
The whole point in taking Conerly is that he's a guy you wouldn't have to give up a whole bunch of picks. And he could start right away. The tape doesn't lie. You may not be impressed with his measurables but you are the guy that started this thread.

Trade whatever possible? Or not?

Yes but it’s about value for me and if I’m moving up it’s gonna be for Josh Simmons. I’ve watched that guy. I think he’s gonna be good.

MahomesMagic 02-11-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17964396)
At the end of the day it's a bit of an evaluation problem. The Orlando Brown trade was fine for what it was, but I guess they didn't take into account he was going to have ridiculous contract demands.

Those contract demands have left us here because we decided "we can't pay him that" so here we are. Pretty sure when that trade was made they thought Brown would hold down LT for at least 5-7 years.



When you trade that much for a player, that player has leverage on you to ask for more $$$.

staylor26 02-11-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17964411)
Yes but it’s about value for me and if I’m moving up it’s gonna be for Josh Simmons. I’ve watched that guy. I think he’s gonna be good.

Absolutely no disagreement there. It's basically trade up for Simmons, or get Conerly Jr. or Ersery at 31 or after a small trade up.


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