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Eleazar 09-05-2023 02:33 PM

I am anything but hyperextended right now

O.city 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17087730)
Hey O.city, you are aware most hyperextended knees are non contact injuries right?

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Yeah, most non contact knee injuries result in hyperextension of the knee.

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17087730)
Hey O.city, you are aware most hyperextended knees are non contact injuries right?

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Direct trauma can hyperextended the knee .

chiefzilla1501 09-05-2023 02:34 PM

I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

O.city 09-05-2023 02:35 PM

They're not gonna let out anything of that nature if it's not serious.

Just GTD it at that point. I'm just waiting to hear on the seriousness side.

Marcellus 09-05-2023 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087736)
Yeah, most non contact knee injuries result in hyperextension of the knee.

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Yea I'm not so sure about that. Usually when a guy blows out his kneee he is twisting or planting to turn.

Marcellus 09-05-2023 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17087738)
I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

The longer they go without ruling him out the better obviously. (Duh)

ptlyon 09-05-2023 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087736)

Which usually leads to.....other things.

Like fever, cough, nausea, shortness of breath, and lost of taste.

Right frenchy?

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17087738)
I like to think this is going slow not because we don’t know the results but because we have to face a tough decision on whether to play him in 2 days.

That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

Eleazar 09-05-2023 02:38 PM

Meanwhile at the Chiefs practice facility, a lone janitor locks the front door and switches off the lights after the last person leaves the facility for the day. After the thread on ChiefsPlanet did not reach the 1,000 post threshold required for the MRI to be read today, Chiefs staff called a lid until Wednesday afternoon.

OnTheWarpath15 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17087725)
They've listed him as limited. I'd imagine if it were that serious, Rap or Shefter would have it by now, right?

Technically, he was limited in practice because he didn't finish.

They aren't required to report anything further. Even if they list him as Questionable for the game, it doesn't mean we're in the clear - they could still be debating the results.

DJ's right, we probably don't want news - because that means it's a season ender and no reason to hold info back. Otherwise, they're just playing the mind game and it's frustrating AF.

Monticore 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087745)
That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

If he wasn’t ruled out on the spot I would assume your looking a grade 1-2 sprain or better

MagicHef 09-05-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17087745)
That's why you do the MRI.

If there's any chance of aggravating it or compounding the problem, you sit him. But to know if that's the case, you can't just ask him "How's it feel" because it can feel a little loose without any real structural damage.

But if you get an MRI and there's any structural damage - even if fairly light - that would increase the likelihood of making the injury worse. So now it's not a question of pain tolerance - it's knowing that you really should shut him down, even if it's only a week.

I'm guessing the immediate MRI is to determine how aggressive they can be with his playing status. If he blew it out, we'd know it by now (typically laxity tests will tell you that before you need an MRI) and you probably wouldn't even DO an MRI until after a little swelling subsides in the next few days.

I'm still not too worried here...

I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

Bwana 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17087733)
Against Jacksonville?


Yep, they played us tough in the playoffs. I expect that will be a harder game than the Lions.

DJ's left nut 09-05-2023 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17087751)
I'm no knee scientist, is it possible to hyperextend the knee without light damage? It seems like something is getting pushed beyond where it should be for the hyperextension to be possible.

I had one playing baseball in my teens. Got hit at home; hyperextended it. It was sore but I played the next day. It really felt more than anything like a bone bruise but the knee felt fairly stable, fairly quickly.

I wasn't 35, though - may be a different animal.


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