ChiefsPlanet - Football ****Official 2022 Free Agency Megathread****

We were unlikely to be 'big splash' players in the first wave of FA. I mean, we DID sign Reid, maybe the second best FA safety available, and he's 25 and very likely to play up to or outplay his deal.

We're not in the kind of cap situation to sign a bunch of top tier guys.

We're much more likely to be players in the second wave, and in the late cuts.

It's just the way it goes when you've gone to 4 straight AFCCGs. Retain the guys you want to keep, let the others go, sign one or two expensive guys and the rest is bargain shopping.

We'll be fine. These other teams are trying to BECOME contenders; we already are and just need to keep the train rolling.

DJ's left nut

03-18-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16198595)

The thing is that CEH will never make them move up because he's simply not good enough no matter how many times we give him the ball. Teams would move their safeties up if he was actually effective the games where he got a lot of carries. But if you're going to run the ball, and still be average at best at it, why would we change the defense?

Also even when we tried the underneath stuff, it was still too heavily dependent on Hill and Kelce. So we were taking away our biggest advantage just so we could take advantage of what the defense was giving up. We needed a guy that could keep Hill going down field and he could command coverage underneath and vice versa. We just had nobody, so defenses didn't have to change anything. Just stay back and force them underneath to Hill and Kelce cause no one else can do anything.

Absolutely. As I said - need speed at X and at RB.

But they respective analysis are independent of each other. Speed at X won't obviate the need for speed at RB, nor would a faster RB lessen the need for the speed at X.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE!

03-18-2022 08:18 AM

So ****ed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Extension talks on Tyreek Hill now must start at $25M. Better player than Davante Adams, but a Yr from Free Agency in the perfect spot with the Franchise Tag inhibiting his ability to get to market.</p>— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1504615141954007044?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE!

03-18-2022 08:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> have submitted an offer to free agent CB Stephon Gilmore, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Schultz_Report</a></p>— JPA Football  (@jpafootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1504680355151892498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AdolfOliverBush

03-18-2022 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16198699)

As someone who knows jack shit about being an NFL GM, I'd be tempted to refuse to acknowledge the Adams contract in negotiations, because the Raiders front office is so reeruned.

"Adams isn't worth that much, and neither is any other WR."

If that means Hill's days with the Chiefs are numbered, so be it.

In58men

03-18-2022 08:27 AM

So is today the deadline for Mahomes to restructure?

The Franchise

03-18-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16198699)

You say this with every post.

The Franchise

03-18-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16198710)

So is today the deadline for Mahomes to restructure?

Yes

DJ's left nut

03-18-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16198699)

Like I said - the rush on Hill was to try to get him signed before Adams re-set the market.

If his agents are coming back to the table with the 're-set' figures in hand, then it's time to walk away from the table and try again next year. There's no rush. He's under contract for the season and you have the tag. Meanwhile the market isn't going to re-reset between now and NEXT March.

And the onus to get the money moved off this year's cap is gone. There's simply nobody out there worth chasing at the moment.

I'd simply break off and head home. If he wants to talk about $22 - $23 million and offer a bit of a team friendly structure to ensure it gets done this year, okay.

There's no incentive for the Chiefs to push the issue anymore. Let Hill and his people come to you.

kcbubb

03-18-2022 08:35 AM

Football is not just x’s and o’s. We lost against the bengals bc mahomes lost his cool. He needs guys around him that make him feel confident and comfortable. There were plenty of wrs running around open in the second half of the bengals game. Getting open isn’t the only issue. MVS dropping balls is not that guy that keeps PM cool. Anticipate more than x’s and o’s. Anticipate pressure and frustration with mvs drops. Lack of trust develops. PM starts getting in his own head and over thinking. Sammy is the cheapest guy that checks the boxes. If he misses time, so be it. When sammy’s healthy PMs is better with Sammy on the field. If Sammy is hurt, next man up. It gives an opportunity for fountain or Gordon, maybe even Powell. As long as Sammy is healthy for the playoffs…

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198471)

From what I can see, he has 13 career drops over 247 targets. So 5% of his targets are drops over his career (he had zero in 55 targets last year, FYI).

Shit, double it, I don't care. Give him 6 drops in 60 targets and give some rando possession WR 1 drop in 80. Doesn't matter if the latter is not forcing hard decisions or doing damage when he brings the ball in.

Moreover, over an equalized sample size the difference between 'bad hands' MVS and 'elite possession WR' Jarvis Landry is, what, 5 catches over the course of a season? Call it 8 if you want - fine. That's a drop every other game that MVS has that Landry wouldn't.

Meanwhile every time he catches it he goes for more yards than Landry would. And every time he runs a route he puts a hell of a lot more pressure on the secondary.

We do NOT need a possession WR. And the fact that possession WRs are getting murdered on the market right now demonstrates that teams know this.

ChiefBlueCFC

03-18-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16198699)

Why are we ****ed? Bc Hill wants to be compensated equivalent to his play??

TEX	03-18-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198718)

Yep. But there are still WR's out there we need to pursue. I'd focus on JuJu and get it done.

DJ's left nut

03-18-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16198727)

Football is not just x’s and o’s. We lost against the bengals bc mahomes lost his cool. He needs guys around him that make him feel confident and comfortable. There were plenty of wrs running around open in the second half of the bengals game. Getting open isn’t the only issue. MVS dropping balls is not that guy that keeps PM cool. Anticipate more than x’s and o’s. Anticipate pressure and frustration with mvs drops. Lack of trust develops. Sammy is the cheapest guy that checks the boxes. If he misses time, so be it. When sammy’s healthy PMs is better with Sammy on the field.

And again, not married to MVS - just an example case.

PM did trust Watkins, though - I'll grant you that. Ultimately I think Sammy wanted another solid payday and wanted a chance to be a #1 target in Baltimore. Wonder if he got some of that out of his system and would be content coming back to someplace where he can be a Robin and be weird in relative anonymity.

He checks every box, no question.

**** it - bring him in if he's cheap. Bring in a developmental X behind him to get snaps when he inevitably misses 4-5 games. Then hope Sammy is healthy or the rookie is ready come December forward.

Cool - I can live with that plan.

htismaqe

03-18-2022 08:41 AM

Time to find a new team. No way they can win now. :facepalm:

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