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Schnitzel 07-25-2014 09:55 AM

I've always liked the Cavs (a little bit), but I'm still shocked that they won the lottery 3 times in 4 fours. What are the odds of that?

chiefzilla1501 07-25-2014 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10766697)
Stephen A Smith reporting KLove told teams that he will only sign with the Cavs next year is HUGE. No leverage = keeping Wiggins
7:32 AM - 25 Jul 2014

It improves their leverage. But I also feel that flip Saunders will do whatever it takes to not get hosed, even if it means holding onto love for a while. Which is why I am actually buying the Philly three way deal trade talk. Again, if Kansas can land love and a legit center prospect out of the deal, then giving away Wiggins, Waiters, and Bennett, in my opinion, is a home run.

RealSNR 07-25-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10766697)
Stephen A Smith reporting KLove told teams that he will only sign with the Cavs next year is HUGE. No leverage = keeping Wiggins
7:32 AM - 25 Jul 2014

What a ****ing dickbag.

Eat shit and die, Kevin. You were absolutely in the right to want to get out of Minnesota, but you at least had the responsibility to ensure that your departure didn't leave a ****ing smoldering crater where the shitty ass team used to be.

You quite possibly ****ed up our chance to move on successfully from your pink douchebag ass. Looks like we can look forward to spending another 5-10 years playing grabass with Sacramento and Utah at the very bottom of the Western Conference.

Thanks, bro. I hope you ****ing die.

saphojunkie 07-25-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10766723)
What a ****ing dickbag.

Eat shit and die, Kevin. You were absolutely in the right to want to get out of Minnesota, but you at least had the responsibility to ensure that your departure didn't leave a ****ing smoldering crater where the shitty ass team used to be.

You quite possibly ****ed up our chance to move on successfully from your pink douchebag ass. Looks like we can look forward to spending another 5-10 years playing grabass with Sacramento and Utah at the very bottom of the Western Conference.

Thanks, bro. I hope you ****ing die.

Sorry, bud.

But this is kind of why I was saying no other team is going to pull the trigger on outbidding Cleveland, and why the Cavs should hold fast to not trading Wiggins.

Of course, this is one guy's report today. Love's camp could easily refute that today. And then a new wrinkle tomorrow.

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RustShack 07-25-2014 10:40 AM

Smoke screen after smoke screen after smoke screen. Who knows.

-King- 07-25-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Schnitzel (Post 10766699)
I've always liked the Cavs (a little bit), but I'm still shocked that they won the lottery 3 times in 4 fours. What are the odds of that?

NBA lottery is rigged.
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RustShack 07-25-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Schnitzel (Post 10766699)
I've always liked the Cavs (a little bit), but I'm still shocked that they won the lottery 3 times in 4 fours. What are the odds of that?

The year we got Irving it was with the Clippers pick actually. This year is the only year where it was crazy odds, and I believe it has happened once before in the history of the draft. Obviously it's bound to happen from time to time. But yes the Cavs got super lucky this year. Which the deserved it after getting it in such a shitty draft last year.

chiefzilla1501 07-25-2014 11:53 AM

Side note... I forgot that the cavs also have rights to Sasha Kaun. Given blatts Russian connections, I would bet Kaun would be willing to come back. His Russian contract expires in 2015. It would make for an interesting starting lineup if you somehow managed to pull off kyrie, Wiggins, LeBron, love, Kaun.

I'm not completely sold they keep Wiggins, though. I think flip seems pretty persistent on this.

KC_Connection 07-25-2014 11:59 AM

Little reason to think Kaun is good enough to play in the NBA, let alone starting for a finals contender.

saphojunkie 07-25-2014 12:02 PM

Kaun wouldn't start, but I think he could absolutely play. You're talking about a last man off the bench who will set hard screens, battle in the paint, has an NBA body, won a title at a blue blood school, and has been playing professionally for 6 years.

There's no reason to think he couldn't be your 9th or 10th man off the bench. That's also six extra hard fouls and they have no one to back up center.







*total homer alert*

Pasta Little Brioni 07-25-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10766832)
Side note... I forgot that the cavs also have rights to Sasha Kaun. Given blatts Russian connections, I would bet Kaun would be willing to come back. His Russian contract expires in 2015. It would make for an interesting starting lineup if you somehow managed to pull off kyrie, Wiggins, LeBron, love, Kaun.

I'm not completely sold they keep Wiggins, though. I think flip seems pretty persistent on this.

Sash a Kaun....starting on an NBA team ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL What in the he'll are you smoking?

Pasta Little Brioni 07-25-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10765705)
SNR is a big TWolves fan. He's been fighting me tooth & nail on this. He thinks the trade makes total sense.

The Cavs were looking for a center and obviously Love. Sixers were looking at Waiters. The Wolves were looking at Wiggins. The Sixers were looking to unload Thaddeus Young. The Mavs were insistent on moving Martin and Barrea and the Sixers are a team that needs to add payroll. The second trade I mentioned assumes Wiggins doesn't want to play in Minnesota.

And the trades I proposed hit the NBA $ requirement for trades.

So apart from your just being a contrarian, go ahead and tell me what part doesn't make any sense. Other than in my first example, I might swap out Embiid/Noel and change that to Dieng maybe.

You just go ahead and wake me up when that happens

chiefzilla1501 07-25-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10766847)
Kaun wouldn't start, but I think he could absolutely play. You're talking about a last man off the bench who will set hard screens, battle in the paint, has an NBA body, won a title at a blue blood school, and has been playing professionally for 6 years.

There's no reason to think he couldn't be your 9th or 10th man off the bench. That's also six extra hard fouls and they have no one to back up center.







*total homer alert*

Kaun has improved a lot in Europe. With the cavs supporting cast, he wouldn't be needed much on offense. If his knees stay healthy, the guy can rebound and is an excellent defender. Only issue is if he will take up too much space down low. This is assuming the cavs keep Wiggins and ad love. If it is, I don't see why this is worse than picking up a rim protector from the scrap pile.

chiefzilla1501 07-25-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10766867)
You just go ahead and wake me up when that happens

And you can go ahead and tell me where the hole in the story is. Every point I brought up is based on fairly strong rumors. The only speculation is that Philly would package in a center. I personally don't see why they'd be in the conversation if that wasn't in play, unless they are literally so desperate to get of thaddeus young that they'd essentially trade him for waiters straight up. Somehow I doubt that's what would happen.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-25-2014 01:50 PM

What Love is doing is a one who sucks the penis move to the fans, but it's also the right ploy. The less Cleveland has to give up for him the better their chances to win both immediately and down the line.


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