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In58men 12-30-2012 01:28 AM

Cain will smash Overeem lmao.

Not even close IMO

Shogun 12-30-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9250693)
good rebuttal. u must know alot about mma

Your reply doesn't even garner a response. It shows you don't even understand what you are watching. Lets dissect your post. So you want to sit here and say that comparing the Middleweight fights with Shogun/Overeem to the Heavyweight Overeem is the same thing? Fights that happened over 6-8 years ago? Lets just set that aside here and look at the fact that Overeem is the best Striker in the UFC at the moment. His kickboxing credentials speak for themselves. You honestly believe that if Cain got Overeem to the ground he would know what to do once he got there? Sorry, but Cain isn't holding him down there. Reem is an ADCC champ and he could work himself out of that situation. He also is not getting pounded out by Pillow fisted Cain Velasquez. Overeem is one of the most marketable fighters out there right now because of his unique background and sheer size. Overeem is a better striker than JDS and Cain. JDS was a better striker than Cain was as well. Overeem is just better bud, sorry.

Shogun 12-30-2012 01:40 AM

Also please show me where Overeem has tested positive for steroids.

In58men 12-30-2012 01:52 AM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/30/my9ata7u.jpg

herp derp

kcxiv 12-30-2012 06:51 AM

http://s2.glbimg.com/MnW7t9QuCTE9ZVV...0/dsc04235.jpg

wow, he looks tore up.

kcxiv 12-30-2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9250711)
Also please show me where Overeem has tested positive for steroids.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...a_white_040412

http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post/_/i...uld-be-the-end

JohnnyHammersticks 12-30-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9250711)
Also please show me where Overeem has tested positive for steroids.

You should just quit while you're way, way, waaaaaaaay behind.

Gary 12-30-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 9250831)

Yeah, JDS definitely looks like he was the better striker.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-30-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9250711)
Also please show me where Overeem has tested positive for steroids.

Look at the UFC loser trying to play semantics. You were spewing all the same shit about Rua, you slob

Sorter 12-30-2012 12:29 PM

Haven't watched the fights yet but I never thought JDS would be beaten down as bad as the pBp made it sound.

As for the Ubereem/Cain or JDS matchup, it is interesting on several accounts, especially the striking. Overeem did well in k1 because he covers up well and uses the larger gloves as defense. He gets tagged quite a bit more with the smaller gloves. Something to consider. Gonna be great fights though when they happen.

Chief_For_Life58 12-30-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9250709)
Your reply doesn't even garner a response. It shows you don't even understand what you are watching. Lets dissect your post. So you want to sit here and say that comparing the Middleweight fights with Shogun/Overeem to the Heavyweight Overeem is the same thing? Fights that happened over 6-8 years ago? Lets just set that aside here and look at the fact that Overeem is the best Striker in the UFC at the moment. His kickboxing credentials speak for themselves. You honestly believe that if Cain got Overeem to the ground he would know what to do once he got there? Sorry, but Cain isn't holding him down there. Reem is an ADCC champ and he could work himself out of that situation. He also is not getting pounded out by Pillow fisted Cain Velasquez. Overeem is one of the most marketable fighters out there right now because of his unique background and sheer size. Overeem is a better striker than JDS and Cain. JDS was a better striker than Cain was as well. Overeem is just better bud, sorry.

I will say that overeem has a punchers chance he has some of the best kickboxing in the world in any weight division in the ufc. adcc champ? lol whatchu smoking. boxing and wrestling are what wins in the ufc for the most part. bjj helps but its a whole different ballpark when u can punch someone. I dont see damian maia, palharas, dean lister winning ufc titles. bj penn is the only one and hes a little bitch at that. cain would play the same gameplan against overeem as he just did against jds. wrestle ride him & ground and pound out a victory. like I said before, only way overeem wins is if he knocks him out in the first 2 minutes

Shogun 12-30-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 9250925)
You should just quit while you're way, way, waaaaaaaay behind.

He tested positive for testosterone. In which he was cleared by a doctor as it was from a medication. Do some more research on the subject before you speak on it.

Shogun 12-30-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9251506)
I will say that overeem has a punchers chance he has some of the best kickboxing in the world in any weight division in the ufc. adcc champ? lol whatchu smoking. boxing and wrestling are what wins in the ufc for the most part. bjj helps but its a whole different ballpark when u can punch someone. I dont see damian maia, palharas, dean lister winning ufc titles. bj penn is the only one and hes a little bitch at that. cain would play the same gameplan against overeem as he just did against jds. wrestle ride him & ground and pound out a victory. like I said before, only way overeem wins is if he knocks him out in the first 2 minutes

Yeah because being able to know how to use sweeps and sub defense is completely useless. Tell that to Comprido. Overeem has an excellent guillotine.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-30-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9251569)
He tested positive for testosterone. In which he was cleared by a doctor as it was from a medication. Do some more research on the subject before you speak on it.

Testosterone is a steroid that acts as a hormone, dipshit. Go ahead and believe what you want to believe. 14-to-1

Shogun 12-30-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides. (Post 9251598)
Testosterone is a steroid that acts as a hormone, dipshit. Go ahead and believe what you want to believe. 14-to-1

ROFL and if he was not cleared he would not be fighting. Go ahead and keep making shit up to be biased toward your point. Neither Cain nor JDS has faced a striker as good as Overeem. Maybe Crocop and Nogeuria but they were way past their primes and punching bags by that point.


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