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They aren't a "choir boys" only operation, so if they're avoiding a guy because of character stuff, well I'm prone to chalk that one up to "they know more than us". |
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When you actually break down and look at that stuff...it's hard for me to really lend much to those stats. Alot of people don't understand leverage and what constitutes "open" in the NFL> |
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Drafting one because of exemplary character is another entirely. I have no problem with character breakign ties or even carrying more weight than that. But like I said, it should never EVER be the first things you talk about. |
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It's not about "doom and gloom," bud. It's about being objective about their performance so far. The fact that it's not great is simply facts as they present themselves right now. I've always said that I expect them to improve over the course of the season, and I still hold that belief. The problem right now is that I also believed they'd begin the season better than they have; I thought the floor would be a little higher than what it is. |
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It’s too bad Baltimore went out and went crazy at the position to prop up their running back. |
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Van Jefferson is easily the worst of the 3 in terms of Atwell, Puka, and him. Puka leads the entire league in receptions and Atwell is in the top 20. Jefferson is averaging 2 catches a game. 8 receptions with a grand total of 8 yac yards. |
The kid is less than 2 yards from having 4 TD's in 5 games. He's on pace for 7 though and that is awesome
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Yeah I think its time to take off the training wheels for Mr. Rashee Rice.
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Rice showing some nice flashes.
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at least this guy has potential
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He's gonna have a huge game soon, I can feel it!!!
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The WRs had their moments today. Mahomes actually had a bout of inaccuracy today.
That big drop by Ross on that pass right in his chest was a bad moment. Watson makes another big yardage catch. Dude is close to our best WR and many here wanted him cut. |
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At one point, Skyy is going to “tweak a hamstring” or something and miss a couple weeks that opens the door for Ross, right? They gotta get Ross, Rice and Watson more reps.
It’s probably gonna happen similarly to how Pacheco took the starters role last year. |
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The other question is what in the hell is up with MVS? Hes having a disaster of a year so far. I expect more from him but to be fair to MVS he plays best off of another WR #1 where he can run vertical and we just dont have that. Mahomes is a god damned wizard. |
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Watson does what MVS does and does it better. And Mahomes knows it. |
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I really like Rice in ways I never liked Skyy, Toney, Hardman or much anyone else. I really hope Mahomes just starts peppering him with targets one game and everyone realises he could be THAT guy.
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Just kicking a dead horse here but this is a critical Rice/Moore distinction:
https://i.imgur.com/cWOJ2eD.gif Look at this route - he doesn't **** around foot firing to try to get a clean release. He doesn't do anything cute to create separation. He goes DIRECTLY at his man knowing how fast he needs to get into the route. DB tries to get physical and Rice just bodies through him; simply out-physicals him to get that little bit of inside leverage. More critically he gets it EXACTLY where he needs to get it. Not a yard early, not a yard late. Not too deep and not too shallow. He stays on his route, gets a foot of separation right when it's expected and creates a lane for Mahomes to fire a dart into. THAT'S what Moore doesn't do. That's why I say those 'yards of separation' stat don't mean dick. Because a foot of separation on this play meant everything and it was truly all that was needed. It wasn't THAT he got separation, it was when and where he got it that sets him apart from Moore. He simply knows what he needs to do out there to be a part of the progression. All too often I'm not seeing that from Moore. I suspect he'd have seen the DB lining up over top of him and tried to foot fire then juke outside before cutting inside and by then the safeties will have crashed down into that hole and Mahomes would've moved onto the next guy. Wanna know why Rice is getting targets and Moore isn't? That play is your answer. |
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Seems like all the talk about Rice being "NFL ready" as a rookie was pretty accurate. Besides some dropsies, this guy looks the part.
I'd just give him more snaps. |
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MVS might be trade bait at the deadline. He doesn't do anything Watson can't do. Watson has gobbled up his targets. |
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MVS is dragging multiple defenders everywhere he goes so people like Watson can find 1v1 matchups that Mahomes can expose. Watson is a role player even more so than MVS is. It's like saying Gray is more valuable than Kelce because Gray had a couple of nice grabs. |
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It's clear Watson is Mahomes preferred downfield target now. I still like MVS but I think his days are numbered. |
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It's just real bad analysis. |
We're going to be talking about a 17-game sample size of Justin Watson being this team's leading receiver when it's all said and done.
That's like Frank Clark getting more sacks than Chris Jones over the course of an entire season. Not sure why people don't believe Watson is Mahomes favorite downfield target at this point. MVS draws coverage sometimes, but he's not getting doubled every play with Kelce on the field. |
Rice, Ross, and Toney are going to be the trio, I think. Sooner than later.
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Ja’Marr Chase took a year off, and couldn’t catch shit in his rookie preseason Toney missed all of preseason/training camp and dropped everything week 1 Etc etc |
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Seems like Rice gets a high target share on limited snaps. :shrug: |
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Classic Clark. Miss that guy. |
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And Watson got more rope last game than MVS. Rice got a bigger snap share. It's happening. |
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That young man has emerged tonight
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This should be the last game he should ever get less than 50% snaps.
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This dude is gonna win us a playoff game
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He's good.
Give him snaps. |
He looks damn good.
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Veach might have finally drafted one worth a shit!
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Now switch Moore for Ross and we're rolling!
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Kelce is Patrick’s crack cocaine. Need more Rice to ween him off and give him balance in the passing game.
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Only bright spot on the entire wide receiver core dude looks like he is gonna be a stud
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there's hope with Rice, just had his best game of the season.
But we need 1 more guy that can play consistent. And we need it this season. 1 more guy, drop James or whoever and gotta make something happen with a trade. |
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this guy is why i’m not that concerned about the receiver stuff. by janusry he’s gonna be a legit 1.
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Kelce & Rice are our guys, and hopefully Toney or Ross find some confidence and start producing!
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He needs to be running more slants. He’s unstoppable.
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Drops are becoming less frequent too.
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Glad I am wrong.
Dude looks good, and is going to get better. |
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He looks explosive as shit! Get him the ball.
Legit top 5 defense and best kicker/punter duo in the league. Need these young receivers continue to develop. I hope we are active at the trade deadline to give this offense a shot in the arm. Saquon Barkley, Hollywood Brown...hell even if we just bring Mecole back. Need to get a little more explosive on offense. |
I'm calling it....stud
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The kid looks very good. I hope Andy will give him more snaps as we move along.
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Love this guy, he needs to protect the ball, runs with it a little loose.
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Gotta keep that ball tucked high and tight when he runs. Other than that, keep feeding him the ball in space!
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He's gonna be a YAC monster. So good at getting the ball and finding a way to get downfield ASAP. He's been tucking the shit outta that ball too. Definitely focused.
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