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ChiefsCountry 03-23-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16210869)
Tragic Johnson ponders questions with obvious answers…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill is one of my favorite NFL players to watch with Patrick Mahomes. Now that he&#39;s been traded to the Dolphins, I wonder if he will have the same impact with Tua Tagovailoa as his QB.</p>&mdash; Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1506767706342666244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Earves Twitter takes always crack me up LMAO

-King- 03-23-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16210825)
Of course he would have.

He’s a WR - he’s one misstep away from losing literally NINE figures. And he’s already wealthy enough to just walk away from the game if it came to that.

People have turned their brains off.

People thought Rodgers would sit out too.

tredadda 03-23-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16210869)
Tragic Johnson ponders questions with obvious answers…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill is one of my favorite NFL players to watch with Patrick Mahomes. Now that he&#39;s been traded to the Dolphins, I wonder if he will have the same impact with Tua Tagovailoa as his QB.</p>&mdash; Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1506767706342666244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO No. The only QBs with the arm strength to properly capitalize on his speed outside Mahomes are Allen and Rodgers.

staylor26 03-23-2022 06:04 PM

Wtf? KChiefs1 is a ****ing weirdo.

And you have the nerve to call me a bundle of sticks?

KChiefs1 03-23-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16210767)
Oh, and COVID created an unusually deep 2022 NFL draft.

Those picks just have more value this year.

This wasn’t done without a great deal of though, guys.


If Vagich does his thing…Chiefs will be better. Pressure is on Bart.


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staylor26 03-23-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210885)
People thought Rodgers would sit out too.

Did he tell the team he would like Tyreek did?

This isn’t speculation dumbass.

smithandrew051 03-23-2022 06:06 PM

We drafted really well last year.

If that happens again with a larger sample size and better picks, then this trade will be remembered as a good one. It’s really that simple.

Might not be as great as we would’ve liked, but we can’t put all our eggs in one basket.

Hard to argue against creating cap space and acquiring a ton of picks, while only losing one player (who is obviously great).

Sassy Squatch 03-23-2022 06:07 PM

Intredasting gif.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16210852)
Hill had no leverage to sit out with one year left on his contract. Only way we lose on calling his bluff is if he retires like Calvin Johnson and I don’t see that happening. Hill might have been worth more in trade if we make a run and the offense was historic with hill putting up huge numbers. Age didn’t hurt davante Adams trade value. He’s like 32?

Sure he did.

Sits through week 9 and then returns when we’ve already lost too much ground to hang in the West but still gets his year accrued.

And in the meantime the cap gets butchered so we can’t supplement.

Yeah, he could have easily held out.

KChiefs1 03-23-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16210888)
Wtf? KChiefs1 is a ****ing weirdo.

And you have the nerve to call me a bundle of sticks?


Hits too close to home dick sucker?


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dirk digler 03-23-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16210791)
Well Nate Taylor said he has sources saying Tyreek told the Chiefs he'd sit without a new deal.

I would call his bluff. Does anyone think that Hill would sit and incur a $50k per day for any length of time?

kcbubb 03-23-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16210861)
Adams is 29, genius.

So, Hill will be 29 next year, so his age for trade value shouldn’t be a factor when Adams got the same trade value, better imo, at 29 years old. That’s the point; age wasn’t an issue with trading hill. Why trade hill with one year left on his contract when we could have gotten the same value in trade next year? And don’t say for the cap. Chiefs could have found a way.

Coochie liquor 03-23-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16208753)
Wonder how Ju Ju feels now. Came here to win a SB and now this.

I think he doesn’t really care. He didn’t really come to win a SB... he came to prove his worth for a big contract next year. Looking for auto seeing him go all out with an elite quarterback/coach combo.

RealSNR 03-23-2022 06:11 PM

It's Tun-ga-vai-loa?

Then spell your name with a ****ing N, asshole

Rainbarrel 03-23-2022 06:12 PM

Stop reposting Knowmo's Bronco workouts

mkp785 03-23-2022 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16210444)
Bradberry is 29. No way should we trade and extend him. Can we move along to more relevant conversations?

Like the rebuilding Seahawks sending us their best player (by far) for a 2nd or whatever dumb offer guys here keep pushing? Cause they have no need for a 24 yr old WR who's a physical freak and is on a rookie deal :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I don't want Bradberry for a massive contract, but getting him for a 4th for 1 yr isn't terrible...especially if we can get a 5th or 6th outta NYG as well. Which, btw we should, since the Giants don't wanna pay him.

RunKC 03-23-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16210894)
We drafted really well last year.

If that happens again with a larger sample size and better picks, then this trade will be remembered as a good one. It’s really that simple.

Might not be as great as we would’ve liked, but we can’t put all our eggs in one basket.

Hard to argue against creating cap space and acquiring a ton of picks, while only losing one player (who is obviously great).

That’s true. This draft will be a defining moment in Veach’s time as GM

-King- 03-23-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16210890)
Did he tell the team he would like Tyreek did?

This isn’t speculation dumbass.

Nate said he did?


What's Tyreek leverage there? If he holds out past the first week of camp,he doesn't get paid, gets fined every day and the season doesn't accrue. That doesn't sound like the best game plan.

RunKC 03-23-2022 06:15 PM

If the Chiefs still win the AFC West this season then that’s gotta be game over for the other 3 teams.

I’d be so pissed if I was a fan of the other 3 teams and that happened LMAO

-King- 03-23-2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16210902)
Sure he did.

Sits through week 9 and then returns when we’ve already lost too much ground to hang in the West but still gets his year accrued.

And in the meantime the cap gets butchered so we can’t supplement.

Yeah, he could have easily held out.

He's under contract still. He loses accrued time if he doesn't report by camp.

dirk digler 03-23-2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210916)
Nate said he did?


What's Tyreek leverage there? If he holds out past the first week of camp,he doesn't get paid, gets fined every day and the season doesn't accrue. That doesn't sound like the best game plan.

Yep I forgot they changed the rules. Yeah no way he would hold out though I think some players did a hold-in by showing up but not practicing while waiting on a new contract. Don't think that would fly here though.

Definitely would have called his bluff

Marcellus 03-23-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16210905)
I would call his bluff. Does anyone think that Hill would sit and incur a $50k per day for any length of time?

Ever heard of Leveon Bell?

R8RFAN 03-23-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16210920)
If the Chiefs still win the AFC West this season then that’s gotta be game over for the other 3 teams.

I’d be so pissed if I was a fan of the other 3 teams and that happened LMAO

Nah .. Raiders got alot of new pieces and a new coach

tredadda 03-23-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16210925)
Yep I forgot they changed the rules. Yeah no way he would hold out though I think some players did a hold-in by showing up but not practicing while waiting on a new contract. Don't think that would fly here though.

Definitely would have called his bluff

Watson comes to mind doing that.

kcbubb 03-23-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16210925)
Yep I forgot they changed the rules. Yeah no way he would hold out though I think some players did a hold-in by showing up but not practicing while waiting on a new contract. Don't think that would fly here though.

Definitely would have called his bluff

Yes, we should have kept him one more year.

Marcellus 03-23-2022 06:19 PM

While I feel it seems this situation was inevitable it sucks simply because I just ****ing loved watching that dude play. And he was on our team doing crazy shit.

**** time to move on.

-King- 03-23-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16210927)
Ever heard of Leveon Bell?

And that worked out for him pretty ****ing horribly.

-King- 03-23-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16210932)
Watson comes to mind doing that.

He didn't sit out.

Marcellus 03-23-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210942)
And that worked out for him pretty ****ing horribly.

True but players always think they are different.

tmax63 03-23-2022 06:21 PM

I hate losing Tyreek but given the circumstances how do you keep him? I'd have a hard time paying a 28 yr old speed receiver 30 mil/year when he's an injury/pulled hammy away from being average. Cap space now and future savings plus a handful of picks. This sounds like the Patriots of 10 years ago of selling at the peak and restocking. Chiefs have their "Brady" and have built an o-line. The last few years it's been Hill/Kelce. Maybe next year it'll be JuJu/Kelce/Hardman/CEH/Pringle/? and teams will have to cover more than 2 receivers.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2022 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16210924)
He's under contract still. He loses accrued time if he doesn't report by camp.

He’s accrued enough time to be eligible for free agency. And I believe the rule to ‘honor’ a contract year is week 9.

This isn’t a situation where a player needs 5 years of service time to be eligible for FA - he already has that.

He just needs to get the last year of his contract burned off and I believe week 9 is good enough for that.

JohnnyHammersticks 03-23-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16210869)
Tragic Johnson ponders questions with obvious answers…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill is one of my favorite NFL players to watch with Patrick Mahomes. Now that he&#39;s been traded to the Dolphins, I wonder if he will have the same impact with Tua Tagovailoa as his QB.</p>&mdash; Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1506767706342666244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the kind of hard-hitting, thought-provoking sports journalism that's been missing since Ahmad Rashad retired.

Sassy Squatch 03-23-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16210927)
Ever heard of Leveon Bell?

LMAO Leveon Bell is literally ****ing reeruned and the only player to try it. It went as well as expected.

Marcellus 03-23-2022 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16210955)
LMAO Leveon Bell is literally ****ing reeruned and the only player to try it. It went as well as expected.

As DJ laid out he could sit until week 9 easily. Even if he sat for say 6 weeks its bust.

Stop acting like he couldn't make it a problem. He made $36MM+ the last couple years he wasn't going to be broke.

Coochie liquor 03-23-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16208805)
Man i cant help but feel that had we known he wanted out a little sooner we may have got a little more.

You think everything that happened, just transpired today?

FloridaMan88 03-23-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16210929)
Nah .. Raiders got alot of new pieces and a new coach

A new HC who was a failure in his previous HC job and who carries the stigma of Faketriots Way failure for coaches who leave Belichick.

And a QB who is above average at best and easily the worst starting QB in the division.

Adams and Chandler Jones aren’t going to overcome that.

But enjoy Demarcus Robinson.

dirk digler 03-23-2022 06:27 PM

After reading up on this, losing accrued time seems to only apply to those on their rookie contracts.

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Training camp holdouts by players under contract are largely going to be a thing of the past because of more severe penalties in the 2020 NFL/NFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement. Teams are required to fine players who aren't on rookie contracts $50,000 per day with training camp absences. Players on rookie contracts, like Adams, are subject to a $40,000 daily fine.

There's an additional penalty of one week's base salary (1/18th of salary) for each preseason game missed with players signing contracts as unrestricted free agents or first-round picks playing under their fifth-year option. Only Gilmore, who was an unrestricted free agent when he joined the Patriots in 2017, and Adams, a 2017 first-round pick, would have been hit with the extra sanction in a holdout.

These financial penalties don't apply to unsigned draft picks and players with restricted free agent, franchise or transition tenders who aren't under contract that miss training camp. Their attendance isn't required because of the absence of a signed contract. Contractually obligated services or performance isn't being withheld in these cases.

Under previous CBAs, the fines could be reduced or waived. Fine forgiveness or reduction is only allowed for players under rookie contracts, such as Adams, with the current CBA.

The substantial fines are clearly an effective deterrent of holdouts. Howard, who requested a trade upon reporting to training camp said, "Until that trade happens I am just here so I don't get fined, and will handle myself like professionals do."

For CBA fining purposes, training camp runs from the mandatory reporting date through the Sunday (Sept. 5) before the first regular-season game. Missing all of training camp would have cost the players under veteran contracts slightly more than $2 million depending on the actual start date.

The harsh economic consequences of holding out may lead players to adopt a similar or related approach to Jalen Ramsey's with the Jaguars in an attempt to achieve a desired result. A disgruntled Ramsey essentially had a "hold in." Ramsey forced a trade during the middle of the 2019 season by missing three games primarily because of a "back ailment."

A player might have a mysterious, hard-to-dispute injury during training camp until a contract gets resolved. Perennial All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins periodically had hamstring tightness during the preseason last year before the Cardinals made him the league's highest-paid non-quarterback by average yearly salary.

The Patriots placed Gilmore on the physically unable to perform list when he reported to training camp last week. This means he didn't pass his physical because of a prior football injury. Gilmore, who is in a contract year, ended the 2020 season on injured reserve due to a partially torn quad that required offseason surgery. Going on PUP is temporarily a perfect result for Gilmore considering he wants a new contract or his 2021 salary increased. He has an approved "hold in" while he is on PUP.

Players in the final year of a four-year rookie contract (i.e.; second through seventh-round picks) should probably walk a fine line with a "hold in." There's language in the CBA about not earning an accrued season (year of service for free agency) with a failure to perform contract services for a material perform of time. Without the fourth accrued season, a player would be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his rookie contract. Getting the year of service isn't a concern for players with four or more accrued seasons since they already have enough service time to qualify for unrestricted free agency at the end of a contract.

DJ's left nut 03-23-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16210967)
After reading up on this, losing accrued time seems to only apply to those on their rookie contracts.

Correct.

You need 4 years of NFL service time to be eligible for unrestricted free agency.

Technically you could be a UDFA or someone who gets cut as a rookie and signs a 2 year deal - when that expires you’re no longer on your rookie deal but aren’t a UFA either (that’s how RFA’s happen).

Like I said - this don’t apply to Hill. He’s put in the requisite service time.

Mosbonian 03-23-2022 06:35 PM

Chiefsplanet never disappoints....caught in the middle of overreacting to both extents are some rational thinkers and those expressing valid irritation.

R8RFAN 03-23-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16210964)
A new HC who was a failure in his previous HC job and who carries the stigma of Faketriots Way failure for coaches who leave Belichick.

And a QB who is above average at best and easily the worst starting QB in the division.

Adams and Chandler Jones aren’t going to overcome that.

But enjoy Demarcus Robinson.

blah blah blah Derek Carr suck, Blah Blah Blah but the best WR in the NFL wants to play with him, Blah blah blah... Time will tell

Marcellus 03-23-2022 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16210987)
Chiefsplanet never disappoints....caught in the middle of overreacting to both extents are some rational thinkers and those expressing valid irritation.

Its a scenario where nobody is happy about it, its going to cause emotion.

One thing I know is that Veach and Reid didn't want to lose Hill, no way, so that means it simply wasn't workable for them long term.

It just sucks.

DTVietnam 03-23-2022 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 16210951)
Chiefs have their "Brady" and have built an o-line. The last few years it's been Hill/Kelce. Maybe .

Mahomes is not Brady..we have to stop with the Pats comparisons. .

JohnnyHammersticks 03-23-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 16210951)
I hate losing Tyreek but given the circumstances how do you keep him? I'd have a hard time paying a 28 yr old speed receiver 30 mil/year when he's an injury/pulled hammy away from being average. Cap space now and future savings plus a handful of picks. This sounds like the Patriots of 10 years ago of selling at the peak and restocking. Chiefs have their "Brady" and have built an o-line. The last few years it's been Hill/Kelce. Maybe next year it'll be JuJu/Kelce/Hardman/CEH/Pringle/? and teams will have to cover more than 2 receivers.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we won't get even a speck of production out of Pringle next season.

But you're right otherwise, this Hill move was exactly the same type of thing the Patriots did with Brady there. Sell high, and move on. Fans can fall in love with players, good GMs can't afford to.

staylor26 03-23-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16211008)
Mahomes is not Brady..we have to stop with the Pats comparisons. .

You’re right. He’s better.

Sassy Squatch 03-23-2022 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16210961)
As DJ laid out he could sit until week 9 easily. Even if he sat for say 6 weeks its bust.

Stop acting like he couldn't make it a problem. He made $36MM+ the last couple years he wasn't going to be broke.

Yeah, not so sure it wouldn't be too different from the usual antics this team likes pulling at the start of the season. We were 5-4 going into week 10 last year with some pretty brutal losses. I'm sure they could've cobbled together a sub .500 run until Hill got back. It's not like Mahomes turns to a complete pumpkin when he's gone, and we'd have him fresh for the playoff stretch.

comochiefsfan 03-23-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16211011)
You’re right. He’s better.

He's not unfortunately.

The AFCCG put that to rest for good.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:45 PM

Rapport confirms that the adams trade is what screwed us

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLTotalAccess?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLTotalAccess</a>: Final thoughts on the mega-trade that sent Tyreek Hill to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a>… <a href="https://t.co/AXTjDRv3vn">pic.twitter.com/AXTjDRv3vn</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1506792535309668353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

displacedinMN 03-23-2022 06:45 PM

I am still depressed and confused.

Coochie liquor 03-23-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16208900)
You do with generational\HOF talent. You have to keep the core together (Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce). This would be like breaking up the big 3 in Dallas in their prime.

Dude... first off Aikman is nowhere near the talent of Mahomes.... None of our RBs are the talent of prime Smith, Irving was good but he was good because Smith and that OL were so dominant. Novacek was Aikmans Kelce. Mahomes is the key here. Him and Andy will make the offense go regardless of who’s WR1.

TribalElder 03-23-2022 06:46 PM

"Miami I’m coming home"

yuck

FloridaMan88 03-23-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16210994)
blah blah blah Derek Carr suck, Blah Blah Blah but the best WR in the NFL wants to play with him, Blah blah blah... Time will tell

Do you think that Adams wants to play with Carr for any other reason than the fact he’s getting PAID in a state with no income tax and they are friends from playing together at Fresno State?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16211023)
"Miami I’m coming home"

yuck

He lives there in the offseason

displacedinMN 03-23-2022 06:47 PM

any reaction from Mahomes? I have been away all day

suzzer99 03-23-2022 06:47 PM

https://theathletic.com/3206167/2022...ns-next-in-kc/

Non-paywall version: https://archive.ph/XlbEi

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Why friction between Chiefs, Tyreek Hill led to his trade to the Dolphins and what happens next in KC

KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI - JANUARY 16: Tyreek Hill #10 of the Kansas City Chiefs catches the ball for a touchdown in the third quarter of the game against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the NFC Wild Card Playoff game at Arrowhead Stadium on January 16, 2022 in Kansas City, Missouri. (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)
By Nate Taylor 11m ago 1
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — He wanted to be the NFL’s highest-paid receiver.

For weeks, this was Tyreek Hill’s message to the Chiefs as he negotiated for a contract extension. The Chiefs countered with a lucrative offer that would have made Hill one of the league’s highest-paid receivers, perhaps as high as a top-five earner at his position. For weeks, neither party was willing to budge.

In the NFL, one market-setting deal at a premium position often leads to another. Last week, the Green Bay Packers traded star receiver Davante Adams to the Las Vegas Raiders — the Chiefs’ archrival — in exchange for their first- and second-round picks (Nos. 22 and 53) in this year’s draft. Adams, upon his arrival earlier this week, signed a five-year, $140 million contract with the Raiders, which includes $66 million guaranteed.

On Monday, Hill, according to multiple sources, told the Chiefs that he wanted to top Adams’ deal. As the friction between Hill and the Chiefs grew, the team decided to make a difficult business decision, one that created yet another seismic shift in the landscape of the AFC in a month full of such transactions: Hill was granted permission to seek a blockbuster trade.
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When the offseason began, both Hill and the Chiefs were confident they could agree on a contract extension. The Chiefs knew such a deal, especially earlier this month when the NFL’s free agency period began, would create more salary cap space to help the team acquire more talented veterans. The team was also hoping to persuade Hill into making a decision that was similar to what Kelce did with his last contract extension. In August 2020, Kelce, at age 29, signed a four-year contract extension with the Chiefs worth $57.25 million, including $28 million guaranteed. Kelce’s deal didn’t make him the highest-paid tight end in the league (San Francisco 49ers tight end George Kittle signed a five-year contract extension with a maximum value of $75 million, including $30 million guaranteed).

Hill, though, realized this was likely the best opportunity in his career, at age 28, to maximize his earning potential. He informed the Chiefs, according to a source, that he wouldn’t play for them in the upcoming season without a new deal.
So Hill said he was going to hold out.

TribalElder 03-23-2022 06:48 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was 8 weeks ago. <a href="https://t.co/WGFZRSQoL4">pic.twitter.com/WGFZRSQoL4</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Outsider - Chris  (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1506723724002832388?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

-King- 03-23-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16210952)
He’s accrued enough time to be eligible for free agency. And I believe the rule to ‘honor’ a contract year is week 9.

This isn’t a situation where a player needs 5 years of service time to be eligible for FA - he already has that.

He just needs to get the last year of his contract burned off and I believe week 9 is good enough for that.


Hmmm...from articles it seems like everyone thinks it applies to all veterans. But in the CBA, the wording only applies to players with 3 or less years.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:49 PM

Veach got raped. He waited too long to get this done and Adams got a new deal and Tyreek said ✌��

ThyKingdomCome15 03-23-2022 06:49 PM

Mahomes is actually going to have to look at Hardman now. CIN knew he got tunnel vision late in games. That's how they won.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16211036)
Mahomes is actually going to have to look at Hardman now. CIN knew he got tunnel vision late in games. That's how they won.

Mahomes better step the **** up because Hardman is the only WR left that remains from Mahomes tenure besides Dieter

Jerm 03-23-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16211035)
Veach got raped. He waited too long to get this done and Adams got a new deal and Tyreek said ✌��

Raped….? JFC lol…

At first I didn’t like the compensation but now I realize it’s a good deal…

Coochie liquor 03-23-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16208964)
I'm really worried that Veach got caught flat footed here.

I refuse to believe he went into the offseason planning to trade Tyreek Hill.

You think everything that transpired happened today? LMAO:doh!:

It’s been in the works. Why do you think Hill wasn’t at Mahomes wedding? This has been in the works for a while. We may never know, but I bet something absolutely happened at half time of the AFCCG.

DJJasonp 03-23-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16211036)
Mahomes is actually going to have to look at Hardman now. CIN knew he got tunnel vision late in games. That's how they won.

yeah, like going to D-Rob twice on the last drive?? C'mon man... :doh!:

louie aguiar 03-23-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16211008)
Mahomes is not Brady..we have to stop with the Pats comparisons. .

Mahomes is a terrific QB, arguably the best QB playing today but he’s not the GOAT and that’s ok. That’s an unfair comparison for anyone.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16211043)
You think everything that transpired happened today? LMAO:doh!:

It’s been in the works. Why do you think Hill wasn’t at Mahomes wedding? This has been in the works for a while. We may never know, but I bet something absolutely happened at half time of the AFCCG.

Rap sheet literally just said chiefs were about to pay Tyreek 21 mil a year than Tyreek saw adams deal and wanted more

Coogs 03-23-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16211041)
Mahomes better step the **** up because Hardman is the only WR left that remains from Mahomes tenure besides Dieter

Remember Albert Wilson?

We'll be fine!

suzzer99 03-23-2022 06:54 PM

I feel like this is one of those things that isn't a huge mistake either way. Paying Hill more than Adams got was going to leave the cupboard pretty bare and almost certainly require a couple of years of serious rebuilt at some point. This allows us to restock and keep a legit SB window open (depending on how well we restock).

Baby Lee 03-23-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16210884)
Earves Twitter takes always crack me up LMAO

Stern goofing on The Magic Hour was the funniest he's ever been.

To be fair, Magic gave him a ton of shit to goof on.

Really, most of the saga was just Stern replaying the show and the gang laughing, but that was STILL hilarious.

duncan_idaho 03-23-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16211035)
Veach got raped. He waited too long to get this done and Adams got a new deal and Tyreek said [emoji111]��


People need to realize it takes two people to negotiate.

Both Hill and his rep were smart enough to know if they waited a bit they would be able to set the market higher.

GMs are not the only ones who are smart, know how to do their job, and understand creating leverage.

Coochie liquor 03-23-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16208987)
Dude that's your second post, they will nail your testicles to the wall... Get ready

You are one of only 2 reasons I hope the Faders have a good year (but lose the division to KC). When you coming to Florida bro??

In58men 03-23-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 16211042)
Raped….? JFC lol…

At first I didn’t like the compensation but now I realize it’s a good deal…

He should have got it done a lot sooner though. He does seem pretty slow at making our guys priority.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:57 PM

We’re gonna need more WRs because we currently have zero WRs under contract in 2023

staylor26 03-23-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16211053)
He should have got it done a lot sooner though. He does seem pretty slow at making our guys priority.

:facepalm:

Jerm 03-23-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16211053)
He should have got it done a lot sooner though. He does seem pretty slow at making our guys priority.

There was no deal to be made…he always wanted the type of $$ he got from Miami.

As if Veach just woke up on Sunday and was like oh man I better get that Tyreek extension done now….

Iconic 03-23-2022 06:59 PM

There was so much smoke about them getting a deal done before Christian Kirk got signed that I think they were pretty close to inking one way before the Adams/Kirk deals. Think Kirk made things difficult and Adams compounded the problem to make it impossible to resolve. Oh well, guess we will see how it all plays out.

TribalElder 03-23-2022 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16211043)
You think everything that transpired happened today? LMAO:doh!:

It’s been in the works. Why do you think Hill wasn’t at Mahomes wedding? This has been in the works for a while. We may never know, but I bet something absolutely happened at half time of the AFCCG.

They probably had a chat about this play
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-24-2022/2dgNEG.gif

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 06:59 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Couple of nuggets in there...Hill wasn&#39;t going to play without a new deal... and Shenault is mentioned as an option along w/MVS... I&#39;d love to see those 2 plus an early pick round out the room. <a href="https://t.co/MTWaT1ixYL">https://t.co/MTWaT1ixYL</a></p>&mdash; Matt Stagner (@stagdsp) <a href="https://twitter.com/stagdsp/status/1506796165836201988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-23-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16211061)
They probably had a chat about this play
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-24-2022/2dgNEG.gif

Kelce was open on that play too. **** Pat this is all your fault!!

ThyKingdomCome15 03-23-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16211041)
Mahomes better step the **** up because Hardman is the only WR left that remains from Mahomes tenure besides Dieter

Yes, but it is a team sport. Our defense is going to get rebuilt because of this trade. Had we signed Tyreek our D would have been trash. Now we have some money to spend, perhaps draft a stud like J. Wlilliams, and still have all those picks in a deep draft. Veach has proven he can draft. Veach is betting on himself with this one.

T-post Tom 03-23-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16211033)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was 8 weeks ago. <a href="https://t.co/WGFZRSQoL4">pic.twitter.com/WGFZRSQoL4</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Outsider - Chris  (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1506723724002832388?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He wouldn’t have it any other way …. as long as he is the highest paid receiver in the NFL. :).

Well good on him and his family that he is financially set for life. (Unless South Beach gets the best of him.)

There were signs that this was going to happen. Remember when he wouldn’t restructure his contract to help the team? He wasn’t going to lose money. Would have been nice to keep him at a reasonable salary. But the Chiefs will thrive without him.

HemiEd 03-23-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16211031)
https://theathletic.com/3206167/2022...ns-next-in-kc/

Non-paywall version: https://archive.ph/XlbEi

Why friction between Chiefs, Tyreek Hill led to his trade to the Dolphins and what happens next in KC

KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI - JANUARY 16: Tyreek Hill #10 of the Kansas City Chiefs catches the ball for a touchdown in the third quarter of the game against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the NFC Wild Card Playoff game at Arrowhead Stadium on January 16, 2022 in Kansas City, Missouri. (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)
By Nate Taylor 11m ago 1
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — He wanted to be the NFL’s highest-paid receiver.





So Hill said he was going to hold out.

Another Clay article of speculation? I stopped reading at NFCLMAO:LOL:


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