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The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456122)
I say they sign Watkins

I think Robinson goes to Washington and Watkins goes to San Francisco.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-08-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456122)
I say they sign Watkins

He would beast with this team.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456124)
I think Robinson goes to Washington and Watkins goes to San Francisco.

Eric Galko, who had the Mahomes trade up early last year, seems to think they go for a big WR in free agency.

So I'm guessing they overpay for one of those guys.

Unless they trade for a wildcard or something.

aturnis 03-08-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13456083)
I'd rather spend the money on defense. We've seen how much better Mahomes made the hideouts we had.

ROFL. I know it's a typo, but I just imagined Pats awesome tree fort decorating skills.

RunKC 03-08-2018 10:28 AM

Please dear god don’t spend a shit ton of money on a goddamn receiver

O.city 03-08-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13456143)
Please dear god don’t spend a shit ton of money on a goddamn receiver

I'd prepare myself for it one way or another.

I'm guessing they go young on d and vets on o

ToxSocks 03-08-2018 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456080)
I still don’t see a way we can afford either of them. Someone is going to give Robinson a bunch of money. Same could be said about Watkins.

I’d be interested to see what kind of market Paul Richardson has.

Won't we be nearing the $30M mark once they cut Hali?

The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456151)
I'd prepare myself for it one way or another.

I'm guessing they go young on d and vets on o

Yep. I think they're going to primarily draft defense and they're going to bring in offensive help through FA.

Hill
A. Robinson
Conley
D. Robinson
Chesson

The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13456152)
Won't we be nearing the $30M mark once they cut Hali?

I think it has less to do with the amount of cap space that we have and more to do with how much other teams (with way more cap space) are going to overpay.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:36 AM

Maybe they trade for a big name WR?

aturnis 03-08-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13456152)
Won't we be nearing the $30M mark once they cut Hali?

Around $27.5M.

Probably another $6M if they cut Bailey and about 1 mil if they cut Zombo.

RunKC 03-08-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456151)
I'd prepare myself for it one way or another.

I'm guessing they go young on d and vets on o

Yeah I agree. If I was a GM I would honestly never draft an offensive skill position in rd 1.

QB
Defense
OL

Outside of QB you need young, fast talent on defense in this era. Just gotta hit on the picks.

aturnis 03-08-2018 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456160)
Maybe they trade for a big name WR?

Trades seem to be coming pretty cheap ever since trade rules have loosened up. It's possible.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13456166)
Yeah I agree. If I was a GM I would honestly never draft an offensive skill position in rd 1.

QB
Defense
OL

Outside of QB you need young, fast talent on defense in this era. Just gotta hit on the picks.

Depends.

If a guy like ODB or Gronk were there, yeah I'd do it.


Otherwise, I'd stick to stocking my defense with legit fast badasses.

raybec 4 03-08-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456131)
Eric Galko, who had the Mahomes trade up early last year, seems to think they go for a big WR in free agency.

So I'm guessing they overpay for one of those guys.

Unless they trade for a wildcard or something.

I just don't get that. There aren't really any pass rush options but if you're going to make a splash in free agency go get a corner or a d-lineman.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13456167)
Trades seem to be coming pretty cheap ever since trade rules have loosened up. It's possible.

This is what I'm guessing.

Maybe a WR that another team doesn't wanna sign to a contract that's on a rookie deal or something.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:40 AM

Like I said I see Veach being aggressive


I agree the D needs to be fixed but I can see us signing a top WR out of the gate too.


If you read or listened to Veach he said they reviewed the second half of titans game and figured out the weaknesses.


I think one thing they saw was when kelcie went down the only other real receiving threat was hill. Why not get Pat one more weapon make this O elite.


Draft and get later young free agents for the D. Let the D grow and become better as the season goes on and by playoff push they will have experience. Let Houston and Berry be the leaders of the D teaching the young kids and pushing them. I love these ideas if they really come true.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 13456170)
I just don't get that. There aren't really any pass rush options but if you're going to make a splash in free agency go get a corner or a d-lineman.

Not really any splash players out there to get though.

Gotta think, even if a guy is a good player, theres a reason he's hitting free agency. Sometimes it's just money, but more likely theres some flaws or shit that is going on.

I'd love them to be able to sign a badass CB and DL. But that doesn't seem optimal right now.

So go cheaper and hit some mid tier guys on D and build a young fast cheap d.

ToxSocks 03-08-2018 10:42 AM

I'm curious to see how Jordan Mathews' market develops. I think i'd rather take a cheap flyer on him than overpay for Watkins.

The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456171)
This is what I'm guessing.

Maybe a WR that another team doesn't wanna sign to a contract that's on a rookie deal or something.

Tyler Lockett?

O.city 03-08-2018 10:43 AM

I also don't think they feel like it's a rebuilding year. They're retooling and gonna push.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456181)
Tyler Lockett?

Definitely a possibility.

I'm thinking a little bigger.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:45 AM

O city who do u think?


I'm all for paul Richardson, Allen Robinson, or Sammy Watkins , but who are u thinking?

O.city 03-08-2018 10:47 AM

Dont' wanna say but I have an idea

The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456186)
Definitely a possibility.

I'm thinking a little bigger.

Bigger like taller? Or a bigger name?

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:48 AM

I think Veach is gonna be a great GM remember Shady McCoy and others wanted him in Buffalo. He like Dorsey has a reputation as a great evaluator of talent. Let's just hope he's better with the Cap lol jk.


Young fast D sounds good to me

pugsnotdrugs19 03-08-2018 10:48 AM

We’ve got virtually no resources denoted to WR right now, so it’s not that big of a deal to bring one in when our new QB is destined to give them chance after chance. Mahomes is a baller but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t help the guy out a little. Anyone remember Robinson dropping a beautifully placed backshoulder TD in Denver?

Give him another good WR. Sign another player or two for defense, maybe a guard. Draft your remaining needs with a large emphasis on defense.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456195)
Bigger like taller? Or a bigger name?

Bigger name. Have no clue if it will happen or anything. Just a guess.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:50 AM

Do u have a mole in kc front office O City? Ok so like pest said bigger WR or bigger name?

RunKC 03-08-2018 10:51 AM

Still want Keke Coutee

Hill
Kelce
Hunt
Watkins
Coutee

Hoo boy

Titty Meat 03-08-2018 10:54 AM

Eh nobody will agree but I like DeMarcus Robinson as our #2 (4th option) played well in the playoff game and we probably have a different opinion of him if Alex didn't consistently miss game tying touchdown passes to him in the Pittsburgh game this past year.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:54 AM

Pug totally agree that's why any of the three I said I think would become superstars with pat throwing them the ball. I rewatched Denver game thinking maybe I was drunk when I saw how good he looked. I however was right pat makes throws not many QBs can. We are in for something special makes me even more excited. Players were triple covered he still got the ball to them. I haven't seen that since Montana's days as Chiefs QB. I'm not saying he's Montana but his accuracy is scary good.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:57 AM

I love Demarcus Robinson but he seems to have problems focusing on the ball when it's a high pass. He dropped a lot of balls if he works on it in offseason this could change though.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 10:57 AM

O city why not just say it?

The Franchise 03-08-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13456207)
Eh nobody will agree but I like DeMarcus Robinson as our #2 (4th option) played well in the playoff game and we probably have a different opinion of him if Alex didn't consistently miss game tying touchdown passes to him in the Pittsburgh game this past year.

I think you'll find some people around here that agree with you. I think if you give Robinson a full offseason with Mahomes.....he'll do just fine next year.

If they elected to go all in on a LG.....I'd be good with Hill, Conley, Robinson, Chesson and a draft pick. Coutee or St. Brown for me though.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:03 AM

I think it's gonna be interesting on march 14th. We've already been pretty aggressive I don't think that changes in FA

DaneMcCloud 03-08-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13456207)
Eh nobody will agree but I like DeMarcus Robinson as our #2 (4th option)

You're right: I think he ****ing sucks and is a waste of a roster spot.

aturnis 03-08-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13456207)
Eh nobody will agree but I like DeMarcus Robinson as our #2 (4th option) played well in the playoff game and we probably have a different opinion of him if Alex didn't consistently miss game tying touchdown passes to him in the Pittsburgh game this past year.

I don't think his problem is talent, I think it's getting the offense down to the level coaching expects.

txhawk 03-08-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456160)
Maybe they trade for a big name WR?

Mike Evans or Josh Gordon. If you go make a big trade, chase one of these two...Mahomes arm aligns well with either.

raybec 4 03-08-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by txhawk (Post 13456242)
Mike Evans or Josh Gordon. If you go make a big trade, chase one of these two...Mahomes arm aligns well with either.

The Bucs aren't trading Mike Evans

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:34 AM

O city would first name start with J?

The Franchise 03-08-2018 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 13456274)
O city would first name start with J?

Dude....he doesn't know anything.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:37 AM

I was thinking what he was Josh Gordon would be interesting


Only draw back is if he's busted again but man is he talented. With Pat throwing him the ball it would be exciting. I wonder if Dorsey would trade him

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:38 AM

Yep Evans isn't going anywhere


Gordon is interesting though

staylor26 03-08-2018 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456275)
Dude....he doesn't know anything.

LMAO

O.city 03-08-2018 11:39 AM

You guys will laugh me out of here, but I think Odell could be had. I don't think NY wants to resign him.

O.city 03-08-2018 11:40 AM

I'm 100% speculating on that though.

DaneMcCloud 03-08-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456291)
I'm 100% speculating on that though.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/fr...-mmqb-notebook

5. Slot receivers are tough to value. Aging slot receivers have a tough time getting paid. But my sense is that Danny Amendola’s going into a pretty decent market.

I’d keep an eye on Kansas City, a team that can compete now and could use another security blanket for its new starter, and Amendola’s fellow ex-Texas Tech Red Raider, Patrick Mahomes.

The Franchise 03-08-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456290)
You guys will laugh me out of here, but I think Odell could be had. I don't think NY wants to resign him.

While Odell and Hill would be a sick combo.....there's no way that you're paying both of them. That and Odell would need a new deal after this year. So we'd either be renting him for 1-2 years or you're trading for Odell and letting Hill walk when his rookie deal is up.

The Franchise 03-08-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13456309)
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/fr...-mmqb-notebook

5. Slot receivers are tough to value. Aging slot receivers have a tough time getting paid. But my sense is that Danny Amendola’s going into a pretty decent market.

I’d keep an eye on Kansas City, a team that can compete now and could use another security blanket for its new starter, and Amendola’s fellow ex-Texas Tech Red Raider, Patrick Mahomes.

It's already been posted.....and **** Amendola. I'll pass on a 32 year old slot receiver.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:45 AM

Wow interesting not sure on ODBJ


He has a passion to win but the tantrums remind me of peters and didn't we just trade him?


However as I've stated and many others have Veach loves former high draft picks who for some reason or another didn't work out with their former teams. He is talented and would be amazing with pat throwing him the ball. Guy I'm interested in is David Tredwell this fits in with what Veach likes as well.

O.city 03-08-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456311)
While Odell and Hill would be a sick combo.....there's no way that you're paying both of them. That and Odell would need a new deal after this year. So we'd either be renting him for 1-2 years or you're trading for Odell and letting Hill walk when his rookie deal is up.

I'd trade for Odell and give him a new deal right away. He's gonna be worth it.

Then I'd try and sign Hill as soon as I could and have 2 legit WR's for the next 5 years.

O.city 03-08-2018 11:47 AM

I would 100% pay Amendola than overpay to keep Wilson.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:47 AM

Don't want amendolla

The Franchise 03-08-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456318)
I'd trade for Odell and give him a new deal right away. He's gonna be worth it.

Then I'd try and sign Hill as soon as I could and have 2 legit WR's for the next 5 years.

You're making him the highest paid WR then....which is over $17 million a season.

O.city 03-08-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456326)
You're making him the highest paid WR then....which is over $17 million a season.

Fine.

I've got a QB I'm paying peanuts and my defense is young and cheap.

staylor26 03-08-2018 11:48 AM

Giants are in win now mode, so I seriously doubt they’d trade OBJ

O.city 03-08-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456331)
Giants are in win now mode, so I seriously doubt they’d trade OBJ

Which is hilarious cause they're ****ing awful.

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 11:50 AM

Yeah but Josh Rosen will turn them around lol

staylor26 03-08-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456333)
Which is hilarious cause they're ****ing awful.

It is, but that seems to be their mindset.

O.city 03-08-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456339)
It is, but that seems to be their mindset.

They brought in a new GM, but they are planning to keep Eli it seems. We'll see what happens.

I'd for sure check in on a few of their players if I were the GM.

The Franchise 03-08-2018 11:57 AM

What about Sterling Shephard?

O.city 03-08-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456355)
What about Sterling Shephard?

He's ok. I'd take him.

I'd rather have OBJ

DaneMcCloud 03-08-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456312)
It's already been posted.....and **** Amendola. I'll pass on a 32 year old slot receiver.

Sorry for the Q.

And yeah, no to Amendola.

staylor26 03-08-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456355)
What about Sterling Shephard?

If they get Landry I could definitely see that as a possibility. I’d be all over it.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:02 PM

Are they in the running for Landry?

If they get him at his price, I'd imagine they'd be willing to move......you know.

staylor26 03-08-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456375)
Are they in the running for Landry?

If they get him at his price, I'd imagine they'd be willing to move......you know.

They were rumored to have a deal in place, but that second part is exaclty why I’m not buying it.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456383)
They were rumored to have a deal in place, but that second part is exaclty why I’m not buying it.

I'm telling you guys. Odell could be had.

I bet the 2nd we got from the Rams would do it.

DaneMcCloud 03-08-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456385)
I'm telling you guys. Odell could be had.

I bet the 2nd we got from the Rams would do it.

Why would the Chiefs want a guy that's clearly not only a diva, but fragile as well?

I think it will be quite interesting to see what happens to Landry, Beckham and Watkins, the three best WR's from the 2014 draft.

If they're all on different teams, I think it'll say something about drafting WR's high.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13456390)
Why would the Chiefs want a guy that's clearly not only a diva, but fragile as well?

I think it will be quite interesting to see what happens to Landry, Beckham and Watkins, the three best WR's from the 2014 draft.

If they're all on different teams, I think it'll say something about drafting WR's high.

He's the best WR in football?

Paired with Kelce, Hill and Hunt, Mahomes couldn't be set up any better to succeed.

He's had some outbursts for sure, but Andy can handle a diva WR.

staylor26 03-08-2018 12:09 PM

Julio’s been the only WR taken that high that’s been worth it in a while

The Franchise 03-08-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456396)
Julio’s been the only WR taken that high that’s been worth it in a while

Hopkins?

O.city 03-08-2018 12:10 PM

He's only been hurt 1 time right? It is football, injuries happen.

RunKC 03-08-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456396)
Julio’s been the only WR taken that high that’s been worth it in a while

That’s why I said earlier. Don’t draft offensive skill positions in the first rd

O.city 03-08-2018 12:11 PM

Odell has averaged 1300 yards and double digit TD's.

Save for the injury shortened 2017.

I'd say that's worth it, no?

chiefscafan 03-08-2018 12:11 PM

I'm all for Landry I think it costs to much in trade I'm all in on Watkins. I don't think he's been utilized right the QB shuffle in Buffalo. And not having enough time with Goff and rams before season hurt his stats. He could be great on our team. I don't think he will cost a lot either.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:12 PM

The draft is in fact a crap shoot. We can say "don't take skill players high" and find situations where that works out and some that don't.

QB is about the only position I'd say you pretty much have to take early to get a legit guy. Otherwise , sure they can be found elsewhere.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:12 PM

I'm not paying Landry, a slot wr, that much money. No way.

staylor26 03-08-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13456398)
Hopkins?

He was a late 1st. I’m talking top 10-15.

O.city 03-08-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13456412)
He was a late 1st. I’m talking top 10-15.

Problem it seems with WR's that high is that they're pretty dependent on the QB and teams drafting that high usually suck at QB.

Unless they're just freaks like Hopkins who could catch passes from Pestilence for TD"S.


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