Good thing you just play a know it all on the internet.

LMAO

Looks like A&M to the SEC is now official or will be official shortly. Hopefully Mizzou makes a decision this week and we can all move forward.

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A&M to SEC? Sounds like the official announcement is (finally) coming today.

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A&M is now a member of THE nation's most prestigious and dominant league: The Southeastern Conference. A defining moment in Aggie history

This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. KU a couple of years from the BCS? That is a full reerun statement if I have ever heard one.

huh?

They were winning in the BCS less than 5 years ago.

Why can't they go win it again?

Because there will NEVER AGAIN be a season where KU won't play Oklahoma and Texas.

Probably won't help that you idiots ran the coach and AD who oversaw it out of town, either.

Other than that, sure, print 'em. LMAO

Rockhurst has a better defense then Kansas.

You just wait until basketball season gets here, mister! :cuss:

Had a nice conversation with someone high in KU's AD yesterday. KU is going to remain loyal to the Big 12. It's the best thing for all of the schools in the conference. Kansas will probably be the most active in trying to keep this conference together. Expansion isn't just possible, it's very likely.

How does the NCAA give clearance for this? Teams can't mention a recruits name over the PA system on an official visit when the stadium is empty, but UT can show highlights of those players on TV with commentary? BS.

Chip Brown staying on top of the situation like always.


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Sources tell Orangebloods.com the # SEC and Missouri are still in contact. B12 won't stabilize until Mizzou states its future plans.

Wow.

Just wow.

Amy Winehouse just had a hit song around that same time. No reason she won't be topping the charts again soon.

Louisville has been invited.

Why is it that only KU, KSU, and ISU fans all seem to think that the Big XII is best for all of the schools?

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Perfect addition to the league if this is true. I've been saying they're the best addition possible at this point.

Pitino in the league? Hell yes

We watched the MU-OU game on Saturday.

And what did you take from that?

Oklahoma will beat you by seven touchdowns.

Perhaps Missouri will only beat you by five or six?

I guess neg repping you at this point would be like shooting a 100-year-dead corpse, but your ****tard is swelling out of control again.

Just answering the question.

Why are you so bitter all the time? Can't you just post like a normal person?

Oklahoma is nowhere near as good as the top SEC teams as we can now see. Plus they were without an NFL wide out and they still beat MU rather easily.

Of course they will be favored over Kansas...no one brought that team into the discussion.

We could just have a thread where no one states their opinions and all the MU fans chant for moving to the SEC. But I don't think anyone is interested in that.

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Is there any Big 12 that KU can stay within 10 points of?

LMAO

Calling you out for being a moron doesn't make me or anyone else bitter. It's like saying ice is cold, or water is wet, or fire is hot.

Also, "beat rather easily" isn't a 10 point win at home. "Beating easily" would be more akin to the game Georgia Tech had against KU. Hopefully this will clear up the concept of getting beat easily for you.

Any other simple concepts I can explain to you? I'm here to help.

I sure hope Missouri stays and the Louisville rumor is true. Louisville is a name brand, even if it is in basketball, I believe it is one of the top three most valuable basketball programs in the nation. The football is competitive even if it will be in the lower part of the Big XII. Good geographic fit, expands the footprint and a passionate fan base in a large city.

I do believe the Big XII will stop there for a few years and then consider expansion before they renegotiate their 1st Tier deal in 2016. I think they should stay in the south if they do and look seriously at Southern Florida and Central Florida. Open up a new market on a football rich state. Those two schools already hate each other, so we would be bringing in another good rivalry.

How long before you Tiggers decide what is best for you?

Word is we could have a Board of Curators meeting on Friday to make a decision after hearing what is said on Thursday's Big 12 meeting.

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Mike DeArmond Expect a curators meeting this week at Mizzou. Nothing official yet. But there is talk out there.

Just answering the question.

If they wanted to "play in the best conference, have the highest chance of getting drafted into the NFL", they would have. They aren't. LSU and Arkansas get a small handful just due to proximity. Their games are already televised and they already get to play in front of friends and family (they'd actually do that more often with 3 Texas schools in conference rather than just one).

The "SEC is the NFL bullet train!!!" argument has not worked. Big 12 out-recruits everyone because Texas kids want to either play for Texas/OU, or against them. Texas A&M won't change things. Good Texas players are not going to be saying "damn those Aggies for not giving me a scholarship, I'ma goin' to go to Columbia!"

I'm gonna need to hear someone other than Greg Swaim reporting it. Not that I wouldn't be OK with UL, Cinci, and BYU, and maybe he's good at recruiting news, but this guy has just gotten too many things wrong on conference realignment, to the point where he's at non-credible rumor status.

I agree heartily with this. Texas A&M is going to have to fight pretty hard to maintain its current Texas recruiting.

Missouri would have an even harder time continuing it's recruiting success at the same level in Texas if it moved to the SEC. Which is one reason I strenuously oppose the move. Right now, Missouri beats oSu, Tech, Baylor, Iowa State, kansas, Arkansas pretty consistently for Texas kids. If Missouri left and the Big 12 stayed together, oSu, Tech and Baylor win many more of those battles.

The SEC is a lot of things in football, but it isn't recruiting magic.

Recruiting Texas kids to the SEC while the Big 12 exists has not been easy for Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, etc. It would not be easy for Mizzou.

Yep, he grabs a shovel and just keeps on digging.

Yep. As we've discussed before so much of this "twitter" reporting is really hurting some of these guys.

Just look at Eric Blumberg.

Texas Tech is probably their best bet at this point.

I agree that Mizzou switching to the SEC will harm their Texas recruiting.

I vehemently disagree that TAMU moving to the SEC will hurt their recruiting and that it wont improve the rest of the SEC's recruiting in Texas.

The Big XII is reduced to luring city schools? Damn, do I ever want out of this shit-hole, has-been conference.

The Big XII is a dying mall that is trying to fill vacant storefronts with youth group meeting spaces.

I'd love to add Louisville, with their BCS win, Final Fours, and National Championships into the Big 12.

A BCS win over Wake Forest in the 2007 Orange Bowl = LMAO

You're forgetting who you just responded to.

I know. I shouldn't shake the dim light bulbs.

As long as the Big 12 stays together, I think you're wrong about TAMU, but you might be right about the rest of the SEC.

Big 12 will be dead within a decade. MU has to decide if they want to go to the SEC or B1G or staying with the sinking Big Texas conference.

Seems to be an easy decision to me.

The Big Texas should try & raid teams from the B1G or SEC area like Cincinnati, Louisville or UAB! I hear SMU is relevant again too. I think TCU is a no brainer for the Big Texas.

Yup, that's where I've ended up as I started looking at the available replacements.

To get to 12 will almost certainly require at least 2 city schools and to stay at 10 is simply not doable; this conference can't survive like that, IMO.

They clearly don't have the muscle to bring in a legitimate powerhouse like ND and they don't appear interested in a service academy.

Mostly the conference is screwed and MU needs to GTFO before it really implodes.

TCU adds very little value.

This is what I want KU to do...

And I want to be a billionaire.

...so frickin bad
Buy all of the things I never had
Uh, I wanna be on the cover of Forbes magazine
Smiling next to Oprah and the Queen

Wait what? Where am I.

Adds more than Louisville, IMO.

I think they could do an okay job salvaging this if they went with TCU, Air Force and BYU, but they won't. They're dragging their feet and those schools are likely to get snapped up before the XII decides to expand back to 12.

Look for 3 city schools, if you're lucky.

Or watch them just take one and try to hold at 10, which is just conference suicide, IMO. I understand the folks that try to say that 16 is too many (and it might be), but 10 is too few. I think you need that conference championship game.

I don't think adding 1-2 to get back to 10 is conference suicide if all the schools pledge their media rights as has been suggested. Adding schools to get back to 12 decreases each school's slice of the TV revenue, and I don't think the Big 12 is in position to bargain hard at the negotiation table right now for big new tier 1 and 2 deals.

Why would you want that? Haven't you seen all of the assurances that staying in the Big XII and adding Haskell, Friends University, and Sedalia State Fair College is best for all schools involved?

Their massive Tier 2 deal with Fox says you are wrong.

TCU > Louisville
TCU > BYU
TCU > Air Force
TCU > West Virginia

If it came down to signing all the schools' rights off to the Big12, I'd rather KU stay than go to any conference with the exception of the Big10. I don't identify with the culture of the SEC fan and would not want my school associated with it. I love the PAC-12 schools, but the geography is shitty as hell.

On the brightside a Big 12 North adding Louisville and Cincinnati would mean Mizzou could pretty much pencil in a trip to Dallas each year for the Big 12 Championship. Not to mention with Pinkel's ties to Ohio, could open a pipeline to Mizzou by playing in Cincinnati every other year.

Oh sure, it keeps the XII alive...for now.

But it's still just putting the conference on life dialysis rather than getting it a new kidney.

Reasoning?

Louisville is a sleeping giant and a program that makes alot of money in both football and basketball. They also have stadium plans to get their stadium up to 70k as well.

No, no, yes, no

Sleeping giant? LMAO

I'd love for both of us to move to the B1G together.

With the resources they have, put them in the Big 12 with an actual coach. They would do very well.

He got that from Lee Corso on ESPN Collega Game day. Almost word for word.

Travel expenses
Recruiting
TV sets

I'm not sure I'd "pencil it in", but you're right regarding the recruiting advantages.


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Name 3 city schools that have had sustained success in the last quarter century.

Agreed. Regionally and competitively it's the only conference that makes sense but it's by far the best choice for Kansas to stay in the Big 12(10).

Does USC count as a city school?

If they're struggling in the Big East, they're not going to "do very well" in the Big XII. They'll be behind OU, Texas, Mizzou, OSU, and probably even KSU and TTU. A move to the Big XII wont really help them in recruiting. They're in Big-10 country, if anything.

WVU gets better recruits and nearly 3x as many tv sets as TCU.

That "massive" LMAO tier 2 deal was with A&M and Mizzou in tow.

Columbus and Louisville are roughly the same size so if Louisville counts as a "city" then I would say Ohio State has had success.

Only if UCLA does...

(So no, no it does not)

City Schools tend to be pretty lousy with a few spurts of decent play in between, especially in football. They simply can't come up with the resources to run with the big dogs with any regularity.

Louisville will have a few nice years here and there, but they're not going to be any kind of sleeping giant. If Corso actually said that, then you know it's wrong because Corso is pretty much a blathering idiot.

You are just so very unintelligent.

My god, you are a dumbass. Please refrain from posting in this thread.

LMAO

My point is that Dallas is a better recruiting hotbed than West Virginia. I know they must have produced some football players but I'm thinking they get most from Pennsylvania than from West Virginia. What is West Virginia's population compared to Dallas/Ft Worth?

You're ****ing nuts if you think they recruit better than TCU. TCU is competing with OU and Texas for recruits now. Now, they do beat us on tv sets.

The U.

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Mizzou is not at all a big reason for these huge football contracts. OU and Texas are driving those numbers. TA&M is not exactly a compelling powerhouse, either.