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KC_Connection 12-19-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17864973)
Pitino brought up on interesting point on Twitter. What if you bring back hand checking

Wouldn't matter much, the players are too athletic/quick and the spacing is too good.

You have to change the 3PT line or deincentivize the 3PT shot somehow.

BWillie 12-19-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17864978)
Wouldn't matter much, the players are too athletic/quick and the spacing is too good.

You have to change the 3PT line or deincentivize the 3PT shot somehow.

I'm tellin ya get rid of the corner 3 point line. If you make one from the top of the key more power to you.

KC_Connection 12-19-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17865316)
I'm tellin ya get rid of the corner 3 point line. If you make one from the top of the key more power to you.

That would raise the difficulty significantly. Teams would no longer be able to drive and kick out to the corners that way (unless they want to shoot long 2s, which they won't). I'm sure the analytics geeks would find some other way to maximize offenses but it would be much more difficult.

KC_Connection 12-19-2024 07:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron James, when asked about changes to the NBA All-Star Game format, touched on more issues with the league: “Our game, there’s a lot of f—ing 3s being shot. So it’s a bigger conversation than just the All-Star Game” <a href="https://t.co/weKJVSyXfB">pic.twitter.com/weKJVSyXfB</a></p>&mdash; Dave McMenamin (@mcten) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1869837077589962821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

POND_OF_RED 12-19-2024 08:55 PM

Grizzlies absolutely destroying the Warriors tonight. Curry and Green combined for 2 points on an 0-11 night.

KC_Connection 12-19-2024 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 17865802)
Grizzlies absolutely destroying the Warriors tonight. Curry and Green combined for 2 points on an 0-11 night.

Sounds like a good game to watch

RollChiefsRoll 12-19-2024 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 17865802)
Grizzlies absolutely destroying the Warriors tonight. Curry and Green combined for 2 points on an 0-11 night.

****ing obliterated them. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Steve Kerr’s Warriors get their asses whipped like that.

BWillie 12-19-2024 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17865644)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron James, when asked about changes to the NBA All-Star Game format, touched on more issues with the league: “Our game, there’s a lot of f—ing 3s being shot. So it’s a bigger conversation than just the All-Star Game” <a href="https://t.co/weKJVSyXfB">pic.twitter.com/weKJVSyXfB</a></p>&mdash; Dave McMenamin (@mcten) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcten/status/1869837077589962821?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He would have even been better in the 80s and 90s

KC_Connection 12-19-2024 11:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ht" dir="ltr">LMAOOO <a href="https://t.co/0tk1K2IWdO">pic.twitter.com/0tk1K2IWdO</a></p>&mdash; LakeShowYo (@LakeShowYo) <a href="https://twitter.com/LakeShowYo/status/1869957583454507081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 12-19-2024 11:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron becomes all-time leader in minutes played ��<br><br>NBA RECORD ‼️ <a href="https://t.co/gPQ9cEZBzT">pic.twitter.com/gPQ9cEZBzT</a></p>&mdash; Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1869956745868591414?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 12-20-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17865322)
That would raise the difficulty significantly. Teams would no longer be able to drive and kick out to the corners that way (unless they want to shoot long 2s, which they won't). I'm sure the analytics geeks would find some other way to maximize offenses but it would be much more difficult.

I think eliminating the corner 3 would just make the game sloppier.

The problem is that on a Points/Possession basis, even LONG 3s (like 2 steps behind the key) have a higher point/shot return than anything mid-range.

Yes, the corner 3 is the most valuable shot in the game and by a fair bit. It would help. But you'll still have dude's chucking 3s. And you'll have defenses geared even more to the morass (because they don't have to spread into the corners anymore) and gumming the mid-range game up even more.

But as a reasonable compromise solution that would be easily effectuated and monitored for a couple seasons, yeah - that seems like a good start. I just don't think it solves the problem long-term.

BigCatDaddy 12-20-2024 10:19 AM

I'd let to see it eliminated altogether Let the G try it out and see how it goes. Right now it's like the NFL making field goals worth 6.

KC_Connection 12-20-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17866214)
I think eliminating the corner 3 would just make the game sloppier.

The problem is that on a Points/Possession basis, even LONG 3s (like 2 steps behind the key) have a higher point/shot return than anything mid-range.

Yes, the corner 3 is the most valuable shot in the game and by a fair bit. It would help. But you'll still have dude's chucking 3s. And you'll have defenses geared even more to the morass (because they don't have to spread into the corners anymore) and gumming the mid-range game up even more.

But as a reasonable compromise solution that would be easily effectuated and monitored for a couple seasons, yeah - that seems like a good start. I just don't think it solves the problem long-term.

It’s not a perfect solution, but they need to start experimenting in the G-League with some of these ideas instead of sitting on their hands and pretending they don’t have a problem here. It took baseball years to make some of the changes it did and they did trial runs all through the minors.

DJ's left nut 12-20-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17866230)
I'd let to see it eliminated altogether Let the G try it out and see how it goes. Right now it's like the NFL making field goals worth 6.

Yeah, my druthers is eliminating it.

But some of the most marketed stars in the NBA right now are sharp-shooters. They won't do that.

Guys like Ball, Edwards, Tatum, hell someone like Doncic or Wemby -- those guys are guys the league markets the hell out of and they're taking 10 three pointers/gm.

BigCatDaddy 12-20-2024 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17866236)
Yeah, my druthers is eliminating it.

But some of the most marketed stars in the NBA right now are sharp-shooters. They won't do that.

Guys like Ball, Edwards, Tatum, hell someone like Doncic or Wemby -- those guys are guys the league markets the hell out of and they're taking 10 three pointers/gm.

But the ratings are tanking with those guys, so you have to try something different. I think putting athleticism on display over shit I can do in my driveway or at least try to is different. I can throw in a 25-foot every now and then but I'm not flying to the hole throwing down some crazy dunk. That's why guys like Mahomes and Jordan are/were must see TV. They just do shit nobody else does.


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