I believe I said that before, during and after the draft.

Anyway, as far as Fisher goes, he struggled in a preseason game where the entire o-line struggled. So what?

Didn't their GM get fired weeks later?

As did I. Shit, when I picked Tavon 8th overall in the CP mock some called it a big reach and I countered saying "you can never take a playmaker or a quarterback you believe in too high"

As far as Fisher goes, it doesn't bother me that he has struggled...it bothers me that he hasn't even flashed top tier ability in practice or in his 2 preseason games.

I can understand him struggling to hold blocks due to his injured thumb...I know personally how big a difference that alone can make to a blocker...what concerns me more is the mental mistakes and the lacking power in his game for being taken so high.

I really hope he starts to make strides once the thumb heals and honestly I think he will...but at this point the question begs to be asked...

Has the damage that's been done to his hand been worsened by keeping him in action and how long should we expect to wait until we see a good player out there that we spent the top pick in the draft on?

Will it be ok by week one?

Week 3?

4?
5?


The bye?

He's a freaking offensive tackle. We're not going to get a lot of "flash". We'll notice him when he ****s up, and we'll notice him when he plows somebody downfield on a misdirection or a screen. The other 99% of the time we'll forget he's even there. Hopefully.

Sexy pick, ain't it.

I think there were larger issues with the o-line this week. They all looked out of synch. Which probably shouldn't be a surprise at this point with all the changes. Hopefully they're gelled by week 1.

didnt need pff to know he had a bad game, just watch the game. lol

He should get better as he gets more experience. Still hated the pick though

small minds and all that shit....

I think we mostly see eye to eye on this. The part we disagree on is where Fisher should be at this point AS THE FIRST OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT.

I guess I have higher expectations for the pick.

I expect to see him just maul second stringers to death occasionally. A couple times a game I'd like to see him win lopsided 1on1 battles and I just haven't seen that even one play.

Not in ps
Not with my own eyes in camp

Nothing.

In fact, to the contrary, I HAVE seen him get blown up more than a few times

Against starters in a game
Against backups in a game
Against starters in practice
Against backups in practice
Against SCRUBS in practice that got cut from 2 win football teams he got "walked like a dog"

Does any of this mean he will be a bust or even close to it?

No

Should all of this be a huge red flag early in his career?

Yes, and to ignore these signs would be just as bad as calling him a bust.

Haha

Ironic

Pablo gets it...you on the other hand...

Maybe this is over simplifying, but could some of the problems this team has and is facing be solved if they would draft a player and, oh, maybe let him play the position he played in college? If it were up to me, I'd draft corners to play cornerback, left tackles to play left tackle, and so on.

Fisher was a LT playing RT
Hudson was a Guard playing Center
Jeff Allen was a LT playing Guard
Albert was a Guard playing LT

lol

oh and I said this a year ago, but Jeff Allen still sucks. Cut him.

You guys are too hung up on Fisher being the #1 overall pick. The fact is, the top of this draft sucked and you would have probably been disappointed with whoever you drafted at #1 this year. There was no Von, Luck or Clowney in this draft.

Didn't I start a thread on this earlier?

oh, I disagree. There are a couple of guys that could be Von esque...


Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, Barkevious Mingo.

The problem is, when you already have Tamba Hali, and Justin Houston, how do you justify taking that when you just told your stud offensive tackle to seek a trade?

Yep.

They couldn't justify it. This was a bad year to pick #1 overall. And I don't think any one of those guys are comparable to Von, Von ran a 4.46 40 at 240 pounds LMAO. The guy is a freak of nature.