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RunKC 04-10-2025 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18026045)
Using his as a reason to not draft a T prospect, if he's a G now, is sunk cost.

Whatever happened with him is irrelevant

If he’s a decent playable G for cheap for 3 years then it’s a successful pick. He was the 63rd overall pick pick. 2 picks from the 3rd rd.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2025 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18026373)
If he’s a decent playable G for cheap for 3 years then it’s a successful pick. He was the 63rd overall pick pick. 2 picks from the 3rd rd.

It's funny how perspectives change over time (and winning).

I remember the Mitch Morse draft and arguing with folks for that very reason. Folks were livid we took a guy who profiled as an interior lineman and probably a C in the 2nd round.

And my answer was always "Man, if you can get a high floor, reliable player at a position of ANY importance in the 2nd round, you do that and call it a win..."

Now the loudest arguments made in favor of Kingsley are that if he makes that transition, it's a win.

kccrow 04-10-2025 05:53 PM

Yeah, there shouldn't be any bitching if KS ends up a good LG. Creed was the 63rd overall pick as well. I don't see people complaining about taking an OC at that spot.

In58men 04-10-2025 05:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohio St. OT Josh Simmons is visiting today with the Colts and Friday with the Chiefs.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910480701356450076?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sofa King 04-10-2025 06:12 PM

I feel like Simmons would have to be a trade up at this point.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18026456)
Yeah, there shouldn't be any bitching if KS ends up a good LG. Creed was the 63rd overall pick as well. I don't see people complaining about taking an OC at that spot.

Because they were proven wrong. Repeatedly.

15 years ago they'd have bitched a blue streak.

RunKC 04-10-2025 07:03 PM

This board hates any OL that isn’t Will Shields or Willie Roaf so that makes perfect sense unfortunately

RunKC 04-10-2025 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 18026457)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohio St. OT Josh Simmons is visiting today with the Colts and Friday with the Chiefs.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910480701356450076?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

“Mr. Simmons this is Rick Burkholder. He will be your primary contact for the day”

TEX 04-11-2025 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18026504)
This board hates any OL that isn’t Will Shields or Willie Roaf so that makes perfect sense unfortunately

Or John Alt and Dave Szott...

RedinTexas 04-11-2025 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 18026462)
I feel like Simmons would have to be a trade up at this point.

This is ok with me. There is a lot of talent that will be taken before we get to pick, so one more guy in that group actually helps us because it pushes someone down to #31 that would not have been there otherwise.

RunKC 04-11-2025 08:33 AM

Matt Miller said on Verderame’s show that Josh Simmons should be there around the 20’s barring a major surprise and the Chiefs are very interested.

As much as folks don't like it, the reasoning is obvious: if (IF) his meds check out with Burkholder, that’s a top 15 player falling due to injury that can play LT or RT (played RT at San Diego State).

They just don’t have this opportunity ever happen and they’re exploring it. If they take him I’d get it. And this draft affords them to pass on a DL in the first rd if they do this.

duncan_idaho 04-11-2025 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18026713)
Matt Miller said on Verderame’s show that Josh Simmons should be there around the 20’s barring a major surprise and the Chiefs are very interested.

As much as folks don't like it, the reasoning is obvious: if (IF) his meds check out with Burkholder, that’s a top 15 player falling due to injury that can play LT or RT (played RT at San Diego State).

They just don’t have this opportunity ever happen and they’re exploring it.

I mean, I get it. But it just makes me super nervous.

I don't care if it's sound "now." Find me an NFL player who was ever the same after tearing it. I've tried. I can't.

You have some guys that have come back who become starters again, but there is literally not one I can find that was "the same."

No ****ing thanks.

Mosbonian 04-11-2025 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18026504)
This board hates any OL that isn’t Will Shields or Willie Roaf so that makes perfect sense unfortunately

Wrong.....I just want the guy best suited to cover the blind side of our Elite QB.

I could give a hoot that he is Will Shields, Willie Roaf, John Alt or Dave Szott reincarnated....

I just want the guy who will do the job protecting Mahomes....later on down the road we can compare him to the other greats mentioned above.

Sassy Squatch 04-11-2025 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18026713)
Matt Miller said on Verderame’s show that Josh Simmons should be there around the 20’s barring a major surprise and the Chiefs are very interested.

As much as folks don't like it, the reasoning is obvious: if (IF) his meds check out with Burkholder, that’s a top 15 player falling due to injury that can play LT or RT (played RT at San Diego State).

They just don’t have this opportunity ever happen and they’re exploring it. If they take him I’d get it. And this draft affords them to pass on a DL in the first rd if they do this.

The Jaylon Moore deal makes sense even more if this is their guy. A 2 year deal while Simmons gets back up to standard. Now, is that a guy worth dumping multiple picks into? I don't think so, but an LT with that potential upside? I get it.

RunKC 04-11-2025 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18026717)
I mean, I get it. But it just makes me super nervous.

I don't care if it's sound "now." Find me an NFL player who was ever the same after tearing it. I've tried. I can't.

You have some guys that have come back who become starters again, but there is literally not one I can find that was "the same."

No ****ing thanks.

Jimmy Graham had a 10, 6 and 8 TD season as well as other productive years after his. Only one I can find.

But yeah it scares the shit out of me.

A lot of what we do on day 2 will determine that pick. If the Chiefs get a DT like Farmer/Sanders at 63 and a DE like Burch at 66 while taking a dynamic RB of their choice at 95 like Sampson, Tuten etc then I think people will feel way better about it.

It’s a huge gamble though. Huge reward if it works out.


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