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RINGLEADER 08-28-2023 04:30 PM

Downside: Chiefs will give up a lot more points.
Upside: Mahomes will break all passing and scoring records on the way to the Super Bowl

ThaVirus 08-28-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17076732)
I mean....why?

If you negotiated in bad faith here, I'm not saying they did, but it does seem weird, then yeah the Chiefs should do that.

Are we sure Jones negotiated in bad faith? Admittedly, I have not been paying much attention to the whole debacle.

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17076790)
I don't know but if Jones thinks he's playing hardball then the Chiefs will play hardball back. That's kind of the way it works with negotiations. And the Chiefs would be foolish not to use all the tools in the box. Hopefully Jones knows this and will report.

I don’t think they’ll play that hard.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17076818)
Wanna bet?

If he doesn't report, I'll bet that's EXACTLY what they'll do.

Just exactly what damn choice has he given them? If he's not here, SOMEBODY needs to be and that person costs money. If he took the entire camp off - the same camp 'the players' went and participated in to get themselves into game-shape, why SHOULD he get paid for games he's unlikely to be able to meaningfully participate in.

I think (hope) they're done ****ing with this clownshow of an agent. Alright Chris - you've had your fun. You have 24 hours before the game checks stop. If you think you'll be here in week 8 -- well we'll have you active in week 10. Have fun on your extended holiday.

I could be misinterpreting the post, but to my understanding, they’re saying that we could withhold game checks from Jones even after he reports. Meaning if he reports on Wednesday, we could withhold his checks for week 1 and 2.

I do not see the Chiefs doing that. For this reason:

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17076853)
There’s a difference between his not reporting and his tag value getting knocked down AND his reporting but the Chiefs using quasi-loopholes in a punitive fashion to get his tag value down.

[b]The latter can do actual reputational damage both inside and outside the locker room. Don’t think that’s the team’s MO [/]when they’re in a clear championship window.

(Note: not chiming in on whether it’s deserved or not but rather how it may be perceived.)

But only time will tell for certain.

DRM08 08-28-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17076900)
So even 27-28m is too much for the chiefs?

I assume he meant Jones is demanding over $30M per year. I don’t think KC is balking at paying $27M, it’s a demand of $31-32M per year that’s causing problems.

MIAdragon 08-28-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17076979)
I assume he meant Jones is demanding over $30M per year. I don’t think KC is balking at paying $27M, it’s a demand of $31-32M per year that’s causing problems.

27 is too much IMO, 25ish is where I’d draw the line.

|Zach| 08-28-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17076921)
Part of it has to do with these athletes acting disrespected because they aren't getting paid what they think they're worth.

Hey Chris, that's how most of us hard working citizens feel too. We don't have the luxury of holding out and sitting home on the millions we already made. You signed a contract. Get your ass to work or the team will stop paying you. He shows up tomorrow and is ready to go in a week and a half then fine.

If not, well your fans want to win now while the window is open. This team has a chance to go back to back. That's special. You're gonna throw that away for more money? Damn right some fans will get upset.

Guys like you and I not having this sort of leverage in our lines of works has nothing to do with anything.

Chris Jones has done plenty for Kansas City football fans. There really is no moral quandary. I am not sure why people take stuff like this personally on their little pedestals its just business. A team will **** you over every chance it gets and this job will probably take years off his life.

Come what may.

|Zach| 08-28-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17076875)
I’m pro labor as it comes.

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Ocotillo 08-28-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17076855)
Whatever. **** those teams they cut players on a whim all the time.

The Chiefs should do what is in their best interest and so should Jones.

Watching people take this personally is amazing.

As if you care about the Chiefs or the NFL.

We all know for a fact, Sporting KC vs. Chiefs conflict, you're watching soccer.

|Zach| 08-28-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17077004)
As if you care about the Chiefs or the NFL.

We all know for a fact, Sporting KC vs. Chiefs conflict, you're watching soccer.

Oh no I have been found guilty of *checking notes* liking two different sports.

Balto 08-28-2023 05:54 PM

I don’t think Jones has the balls to set out past today! He has to report by tomorrow

Pitt Gorilla 08-28-2023 06:00 PM

Posted this in another thread, but it should probably go here:

Honestly, I'm beginning to hope Jones does NOT report by tomorrow; that extra spot could allow us to keep Smith-Marsette past cutdown day and see what injuries play out prior to Jones' return or trade.

TEX 08-28-2023 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17077017)
I don’t think Jones has the balls to set out past today! He has to report by tomorrow

Yeah but he's stupid enough to.

Gary Cooper 08-28-2023 06:38 PM

Chris Jones walking into the room to sign his contract tomorrow.


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BossChief 08-28-2023 06:46 PM

Last time we were negotiating with CJ95, they were also negotiating the CBA and the interviewer asked him directly “if the owners came to the table and offered the NFLPA exactly what they are asking for, would that close negotiations snd get the deal signed?”

Chris said “no. There would be conversations about other things the players should be entitled to”

I was shocked that we were able to get his deal signed before camp and I wonder if he regrets taking that offer after winning 2 rings but not resetting the market.

Dude is going to end up ****ing himself in this whole deal.

PAChiefsGuy 08-28-2023 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17076985)
Guys like you and I not having this sort of leverage in our lines of works has nothing to do with anything.

Chris Jones has done plenty for Kansas City football fans. There really is no moral quandary. I am not sure why people take stuff like this personally on their little pedestals its just business. A team will **** you over every chance it gets and this job will probably take years off his life.

Come what may.

How have the Chiefs ****ed over Chris Jones? Or any player for that matter? **** out of here w that.

Chris Jones doesn't have to resign but what he is doing is surprising even his teammates.

Coochie liquor 08-28-2023 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17076887)
"The law allows me to murder someone, there are just penalties for it if I do"


Seems counterintuitive no?

Wtf?? Point me to that law that allows you to murder someone.
You’re off your meds!


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