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O.city 08-28-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17076885)
But that contract allows him to not show up for this part of the season. There are just penalties for doing so.

"The law allows me to murder someone, there are just penalties for it if I do"


Seems counterintuitive no?

Bearcat 08-28-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17076887)
"The law allows me to murder someone, there are just penalties for it if I do"


Seems counterintuitive no?

Missing preseason games and training camp seems closer to stealing a grape at the grocery store than murder.

TwistedChief 08-28-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17076887)
"The law allows me to murder someone, there are just penalties for it if I do"


Seems counterintuitive no?

The law doesn’t allow you to murder someone.

It’s written in his contract that he can do these things. It’s called stipulations.

Similarly, the Chiefs could’ve cut CJ last year if he did something they didn’t like — there would just would’ve been a large dead cap hit as a penalty.

Nightfyre 08-28-2023 03:50 PM

I am inclined to believe that the chiefs wouldn't have balked at like 27 million aav. They didn't blink at guaranteeing him and paying top dollar three years ago. I bet the guarantee structure and real dollars of the deal in the final year is the point of contention, and that Jones' camp is treating it like an NBA contract. That's okay if it secures your client a bag, but the utility is lost if you can't get a deal done. Losing out on money now is generally a bad strategy for a career as shortlived as they are in the NFL. Anyway, I guess I just feel like the chiefs probably actually value CJ fairly and have already made their best offer. Take it or leave it bro. Chances are that you're not getting much better elsewhere.

-King- 08-28-2023 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17076871)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: &quot;The Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes [Aaron] Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid,&quot; per <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlbertBreer</a>. <a href="https://t.co/2vbicRthVN">pic.twitter.com/2vbicRthVN</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1696247889264062648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So even 27-28m is too much for the chiefs?

Rausch 08-28-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17076900)
So even 27-28m is too much for the chiefs?

If that's true I can see why Jones is holding out.

RaidersOftheCellar 08-28-2023 04:02 PM

Then you'd better take what they can pay, bitch.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m a chief for life. I will not play for another franchise</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1634942431358754817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TEX 08-28-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17076871)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: &quot;The Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes [Aaron] Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid,&quot; per <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlbertBreer</a>. <a href="https://t.co/2vbicRthVN">pic.twitter.com/2vbicRthVN</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1696247889264062648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So meet in the middle and call it done. :shrug:

philfree 08-28-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17076871)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: &quot;The Chiefs, I believe, want to give him a market deal based on where it went with Jeffery Simmons ($23.5 million AAV) and Quinnen Williams ($24 million AAV) this summer. Jones believes [Aaron] Donald’s outlier deal is what he should be paid,&quot; per <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlbertBreer</a>. <a href="https://t.co/2vbicRthVN">pic.twitter.com/2vbicRthVN</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1696247889264062648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This dude doesn't know anything he's just pulling his opinion out of thin air or his ass.

-King- 08-28-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17076918)
This dude doesn't know anything he's just pulling his opinion out of thin air or his ass.

Albert Breer is a pretty good source

irafreak 08-28-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17076855)
Whatever. **** those teams they cut players on a whim all the time.

The Chiefs should do what is in their best interest and so should Jones.

Watching people take this personally is amazing.

Part of it has to do with these athletes acting disrespected because they aren't getting paid what they think they're worth.

Hey Chris, that's how most of us hard working citizens feel too. We don't have the luxury of holding out and sitting home on the millions we already made. You signed a contract. Get your ass to work or the team will stop paying you. He shows up tomorrow and is ready to go in a week and a half then fine.

If not, well your fans want to win now while the window is open. This team has a chance to go back to back. That's special. You're gonna throw that away for more money? Damn right some fans will get upset.

Bearcat 08-28-2023 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17076918)
This dude doesn't know anything he's just pulling his opinion out of thin air or his ass.

He literally says "I believe"...

WhawhaWhat 08-28-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17076900)
So even 27-28m is too much for the chiefs?

We don't know that.

philfree 08-28-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17076922)
I literally says "I believe"...

Yes he did.

FringeNC 08-28-2023 04:27 PM

My conjecture of what’s going on is that the Chiefs don’t think Team CJ has bargained in good faith, and have ever escalating demands.

It seems to me that the Chiefs behaved as if they had all but a verbal agreement about the major contract details.


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