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Couch-Potato 04-16-2024 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17484148)
Yeah. I talked about not being a 1k WR in college at any point a while back when I was arguing with MM back and forth. 85 per is 1100 at 13g and 1200 at 14g. That ups the bar even a bit more.

The 1st Round WR class should be Harrison Jr, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr, and Franklin. You know Worthy is going to get in there because of speed even if he's kind of teetering on that edge. All these other guys getting 1st round buzz just don't have 1st round-caliber production and it matters in my opinion.

I agree 100%.

kccrow 04-16-2024 11:56 PM

My Final WR Rankings 2024

I won't be anywhere near consensus, I'm sure of that.

Round 1
01. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
02. Rome Odunze, Washington
03. Malik Nabers, Louisiana State
04. Brian Thomas Jr., Louisiana State
05. Troy Franklin, Oregon
06. Xavier Worthy, Texas

Round 2
07. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
08. JaLynn Polk, Washington
09. Javon Baker, Central Florida
10. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
11. Roman Wilson, Michigan
12. Keon Coleman, Florida State

Round 3
13. Ricky Pearsall, Florida
14. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
15. Xavier Legette, South Carolina
16. Devontez Walker, North Carolina
17. Jermaine Burton, Alabama

Round 4
18. Jalen McMillan, Washington
19. Malik Washington, Virginia
20. Jamari Thrash, Louisville
21. Xavier Weaver, Colorado
22. Brenden Rice, Southern California

Round 5
23. Ainias Smith, Texas A&M
24. Jacob Cowing, Arizona
25. Luke McCaffrey, Rice
26. Tahj Washington, Southern California
27. Johnny Wilson, Florida State

Round 6
28. Anthony Gould, Oregon State
29. Cornelius Johnson, Michigan
30. Isaiah Williams, Illinois
31. Tulu Griffin, Mississippi State
32. Bub Means, Pittsburgh
33. Ryan Flournoy, Southeast Missouri State

Round 7
34. Jeshaun Jones, Maryland
35. Jha'Quan Jackson, Tulane
36. Jalen Coker, Holy Cross
37. Mason Tipton, Yale

Couch-Potato 04-17-2024 12:45 AM

Feels on point to me

Dunerdr 04-17-2024 07:33 AM

Baker, Mckonkey and Pearsall are kind of a group for me and I kind of like Brendan Rice's highs enough to move him closer to the front of that tier 4 but I like this list a lot more than most of what's out there by the "Pros" right now. This feels like the most accurate Keon Coleman and Leggette list ive seen. So many People trying to push them to the top of tier two.

Appreciate all you do as always!

DJ's left nut 04-17-2024 08:29 AM

I'm too lazy to do as good a job as Crow but I'll give the same idea a shot.

R1 (ranked within round):

Harrison
Nabers
Odunze
Thomas
Mitchell
Franklin

Round 2:

Xavier Worthy
Ladd McConkey
Roman Wilson
Devontez Walker
Keon Coleman
Ricky Pearsall

Round 3

Javon Baker
Jalen McMillan
Ja'Lynn Polk
Xavier Legette
Jermaine Burton

Round 4:

Malachi Corley
Brenden Rice
Luke McCaffrey
Jacob Cowing
Jamari Thrash

Round 5:

Malik Washington
Ainias Smith
Cornelius Johnson
Isaiah Williams
Anthony Gould
Ryan Flournoy

Round 6 and beyond:

Tyler Harrell
Johnny Wilson (TE convert)
Tahj Washington
Jaden Walley
De'Corian Clark
Zakhari Franklin
Isaiah Neyor

Ask me tomorrow and it'll be different, but I think that's where I am about now.

kcbubb 04-17-2024 08:42 AM

I don’t disagree with the production argument but many of these teams are drafting based on traits and ad Mitchell has all the traits but obviously needs refinement. He’s big and fast and has great hands. I’m guessing the bills take him in round 1. AD Mitchell checks a lot of boxes and with what WRs make now, it’s a valuable position, especially with teams anticipation of Justin Jefferson’s new deal that will reset the market. He might be the highest paid non qb. I wouldn’t be surprised with 7 or 8 WRs in round 1, and probably 15 in the first 2 rounds.

kccrow 04-17-2024 08:43 AM

Personally, I don't have any major quarrels with your list DJ.

Neyor did transfer to Nebraska though. I thought Walley was going back to school but I haven't paid that much attention because I consider him a PFA.

DJ's left nut 04-17-2024 08:45 AM

Yeah, if we go WR in 1, I think Mitchell is probably the guy I'd want. I'm not eager to trade up to 20 to get Thomas and I prefer Mitchell over Franklin and Worthy.

I'm admittedly being something of a measurables whore there, but I've never shied away from that accusation when it comes to WRs. Give me tools at the WR position and more often than not I'll come away happy when it's all said and done.

DJ's left nut 04-17-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17484418)
Personally, I don't have any major quarrels with your list DJ.

Neyor did transfer to Nebraska though. I thought Walley was going back to school but I haven't paid that much attention because I consider him a PFA.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-01-2016/mz9LRE.gif

Yeah - I have a tendency to lose track of guys this late in the process. Did Neyor declare and then go back? I remember early in the process seeing him as a guy that might've gotten lost in the wash behind Worthy and Mitchell and thought he might be worth a late look.

Seems he had the same thought I did. I think there's more there than he was able to show.

O.city 04-17-2024 09:11 AM

https://x.com/billym_91/status/17805...lHXA6BeO88mpxA

staylor26 04-17-2024 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17484443)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Multiple scouts in <a href="https://twitter.com/GoLongTD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GoLongTD</a> expressed concern about Adonai Mitchell’s diabetes to Bob McGinn <a href="https://t.co/uvJsJahbO4">https://t.co/uvJsJahbO4</a> <a href="https://t.co/eNUpuhWHvf">pic.twitter.com/eNUpuhWHvf</a></p>&mdash; Billy M (@BillyM_91) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1780544832189907194?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe this is just enough to get him to 32 :shrug:

In58men 04-17-2024 09:27 AM

I think we’ll either trade up for Brian Thomas Jr or stay @ 32 and take Troy Franklin.

RunKC 04-17-2024 09:46 AM

FYI Jermaine Burton is going to fall. He’s the classic prospect everyone thinks will go decently high but fall like a rock.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jermaine Burton is off at least two teams’ boards for various character-related issues and could face an agonizing drop in the draft per McGinn via <a href="https://twitter.com/GoLongTD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GoLongTD</a> <a href="https://t.co/uvJsJahbO4">https://t.co/uvJsJahbO4</a></p>&mdash; Billy M (@BillyM_91) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1780545328657178842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dane Brugler on the Athletic Football Podcast on Jermaine Burton “The talent’s there. It’s a matter of consistency on and off the field. He’s been to 6 schools in 8 years. As one NFL scout put it, he was on the shit list of the coaches of both Georgia and Alabama”</p>&mdash; Billy M (@BillyM_91) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillyM_91/status/1776368314647728244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 04-17-2024 09:46 AM

That's interesting re: Mitchell. Keeping his blood sugar level during a game should be something an NFL staff can handle better than a college one. You do wonder if MAYBE some of the lackadaisical effort you see at times is related to that.

DJ, crow, re: Jermaine Burton, if he was less of a shit-head, do you slot him higher?

I think he's a round 2 talent with character concerns that drop him a round or 2.

staylor26 04-17-2024 09:49 AM

If Burton is still sitting there at 94, you sprint to the podium, even if you drafted a WR in the 1st or 2nd.


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