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xztop123 04-10-2025 01:03 AM

I was watching tape of college dts and I’ve actually switched over to Derrick Harmon as my best dt. Even above mason graham. He’s huge and collapses the pocket causing tons of chaos / pressure. The most pressures of all of the dts

TEX 04-10-2025 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18025537)
I really think it won't be an OT at #31.

My reasoning: you drafted Kingsley knowing he was raw. You threw him out there and he got exposed. But the raw material is still there, and a Conerly is still going to be a year away. So what's the point? Moore gives you time.

Gimme a DT or a DE at #31. That's my vote, which means Veach will do something entirely different. Lol

Spot on. Veach has said this draft is a very good one for DL. Id be VERY surprised, to the point of WTF, if he drafts another OL project. My bet is DL also.

O.city 04-10-2025 07:08 AM

If they're moving Kingsley to LG, the LT experiment is probably over, so drafting him last year, he's raw etc doesn't matter.

Sunk cost fallacy in play there.

kgrund 04-10-2025 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 18025709)
Spot on. Veach has said this draft is a very good one for DL. Id be VERY surprised, to the point of WTF, if he drafts another OL project. My bet is DL also.

I have been leaning back towards an OT lately. I think it comes down to scarity. There are maybe 4 OTs that might be more NFL ready than Kingsley that, if there, I feel you have to take. The need is greater to solve OT and the depth at DT is large. I think if you do not get one of the 4 top OT prospects, I think you could make a case to not draft an OT at all. We already have those guys on our roster IMO.

O.city 04-10-2025 07:12 AM

The end of the first round is a spot you sit and take good players that fall for stupid reasons.

Don't shoe horn yourself into a position.

Unless BPA is RB, then we riot.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2025 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 18025117)
Simmons must have looked good at his pro day. He has visits scheduled with the ravens and packers.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/after...-visit-packers

Josh Simmons was on his way to a big-time final season as Ohio State’s left tackle until suffering a torn ACL. He did work out in front of scouts at OSU’s pro day.

I heard Pat Kirwin say the same thing on NFL Network last night and the other guy on the board corrected him. I actually came into the thread just to make that point and low and behold, there's SI doing the same thing.

It's SHOCKING to me how many people just have his injury wrong. I mean that is FOUNDATIONAL to an analysis of his value as a prospect and it seems like 2/3 of the folks that weigh in on him just...have it wrong.

How can any of these guys claim to have a take on Josh Simmons without even understanding the severity of his injury?

And people still value what "the experts are saying..."

I have no idea why.

xztop123 04-10-2025 08:10 AM

I think Connolly and Simmons will be gone when we pick.

RunKC 04-10-2025 08:23 AM

Why is the consensus LT? It’s hard to see the Chiefs picking a 1st rd pick that won’t even play this year. I’d get it but damn

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Good question. I’d love Texas corner Jahdae Barron for them, personally, because of his versatility. Ditto for Alabama linebacker Jihaad Campbell. But I don’t think that’ll happen—both will be long gone by the time the Chiefs get on the clock at 31.
I do think tackle would be the first thing they’d look at, so if Ohio State’s Josh Simmons or Oregon’s Josh Conerly Jr. were there, it would be hard for the Chiefs to pass on them. If it’s a defensive player, I think Notre Dame’s Benjamin Morrison would be an interesting one to look at, maybe in the second round. He’s big, smart and versatile, and he will go a little later than he should because of injury.
https://www.si.com/nfl/mailbag-giant...s-hunter-trade

Sassy Squatch 04-10-2025 08:27 AM

LMAO The **** you mean why? Jaylon Moore is still an unknown, Morris and Suamataia haven't developed for shit and suck ass, and Taylor is mediocre at best and a likely cap casualty in 2026.

RunKC 04-10-2025 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18025817)
LMAO The **** you mean why? Jaylon Moore is still an unknown, Morris and Suamataia haven't developed for shit and suck ass, and Taylor is mediocre at best and a likely cap casualty in 2026.

We shouldn’t reach for one with an injury that has proven to be career altering/ending for a lot of players.

RunKC 04-10-2025 08:46 AM

This makes more sense. One will be taken on day 2 IMO and be a replacement for Jawaan at worst.

I keep thinking Ersery if he falls far enough

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� UPDATE ��<br><br>The signing of Jaylon Moore won&#39;t prevent the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> from devoting more resources to improving their problematic tackle situation. Kansas City wants a player with experience at both left and right tackle.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/Jordan_Reid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jordan_Reid</a>. <a href="https://t.co/9jcBcakupn">pic.twitter.com/9jcBcakupn</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1910333275442123261?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 04-10-2025 08:56 AM

I think Ersery is a slam dunk if he gets to the late 2nd.

I don't know how likely that is, but I think thats one of those legitimate 'sprint to the podium' sort of moments if he makes it that far. We'll absolutely take him there, IMO.

BigRedChief 04-10-2025 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 18025709)
Spot on. Veach has said this draft is a very good one for DL. Id be VERY surprised, to the point of WTF, if he drafts another OL project. My bet is DL also.

We have taken 2 OL projects the last 2 years. Thats enough gambling with those 1st/2nd rounders.

We need DL help. These one year signings are getting old. I'm sure Jones wants some help in the middle. Deepest DT draft in forever and we take another OL LT project?

Wisconsin_Chief 04-10-2025 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18025871)
We have taken 2 OL projects the last 2 years. Thats enough gambling with those 1st/2nd rounders.

We need DL help. These one year signings are getting old. I'm sure Jones wants some help in the middle. Deepest DT draft in forever and we take another OL LT project?

Completely agree, no thanks. We have two solid starting tackles for 2025 and several projects already. We need weapons for Mahomes or help on the d-line all the way. This team is far too good right now to waste another first round pick on a project tackle. We honestly have a chance to have the best year of this entire dynasty if we hit a few of these picks at the right positions.

Now, if they truly see a franchise LT in Conerly or Simmons, and truly trust what they're getting, I certainly won't complain, but I'm definitely not going that route unless there isn't an impact player left on my board at any position.

suzzer99 04-10-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 18022548)
Nothing will ever top Collinsworth having us take Hendon Hooker in the first round.

Eric Eager's first mock draft last year has us taking a center in the first round and another in the 3rd round. Totally insane.


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