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ForeverChiefs58 04-15-2024 02:29 AM

Also what round do you think Terique Owens from Springfield gets drafted? I saw he met with chiefs

Dunerdr 04-15-2024 06:00 AM

I think I've been sleeping on Roman Wilson a little. For me at least i've kind of over looked he and Polk.

ToxSocks 04-15-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 17482212)
Also what round do you think Terique Owens from Springfield gets drafted? I saw he met with chiefs

Undrafted imo.

poolboy 04-15-2024 03:05 PM

Nick Wright changed his Chiefs pick to Franklin

staylor26 04-16-2024 05:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All Round 1 WRs to Average &lt;85.0 YPG in Best NCAA Season (2014-2024)<br><br>John Ross (81.4)<br>Breshad Perriman (80.3)<br>Jalen Reagor (80.0)<br>Quentin Johnston (76.2)<br>Kelvin Benjamin (72.2)<br>Calvin Ridley (69.7)<br>Phillip Dorsett (67.0)<br>Henry Ruggs (62.0)<br>Adonai Mitchell (60.4)<br>/end of list</p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1780280911482822957?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 04-16-2024 05:48 PM

Woof.

staylor26 04-16-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17484043)
Woof.

I'd still take him at 32 with little hesitation, but the production concerns are legitimate.

The Franchise 04-16-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17484048)
I'd still take him at 32 with little hesitation, but the production concerns are legitimate.

Oh for sure. That group is rough.

Couch-Potato 04-16-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17484026)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All Round 1 WRs to Average &lt;85.0 YPG in Best NCAA Season (2014-2024)<br><br>John Ross (81.4)<br>Breshad Perriman (80.3)<br>Jalen Reagor (80.0)<br>Quentin Johnston (76.2)<br>Kelvin Benjamin (72.2)<br>Calvin Ridley (69.7)<br>Phillip Dorsett (67.0)<br>Henry Ruggs (62.0)<br>Adonai Mitchell (60.4)<br>/end of list</p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1780280911482822957?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok... sooooo what is he getting at here?

That's not the best endorsement, is he suggesting Mitchell will be a bust because he played well in college?

Seems like a meaningless stat he posted.

Dante84 04-16-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17484052)
Ok... sooooo what is he getting at here?

That's not the best endorsement, is he suggesting Mitchell will be a bust because he played well in college?

Seems like a meaningless stat he posted.

"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Dante84 04-16-2024 06:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, it’s not just that he looks the least like a Round 1-pick of any Round 1 WR in a decade. He’s also in the bottom-left of every graph I’ve seen this year that deals with any efficiency/production metric we know to be predictive (e.g. worst in class by YAC/R)<br><br>So yeah, to…</p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1780294525136630265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Couch-Potato 04-16-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17484058)
"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Ahhh I see! Gotcha!

Couch-Potato 04-16-2024 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17484060)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, it’s not just that he looks the least like a Round 1-pick of any Round 1 WR in a decade. He’s also in the bottom-left of every graph I’ve seen this year that deals with any efficiency/production metric we know to be predictive (e.g. worst in class by YAC/R)<br><br>So yeah, to…</p>&mdash; Scott Barrett (@ScottBarrettDFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBarrettDFB/status/1780294525136630265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, AD is pretty much the only WR in this class that I don't like.

Just feel like he's getting way too much attention for little production, and his game speed looks slow to me.

Couch-Potato 04-16-2024 07:07 PM

Ultimately, I think we need to take a WR with big-play home run potential.

BTJ
Worthy
Franklin
Legette

These types of prospects are more attractive to me than say a Ladd McConkey or AD Mitchell.

We have great possession guys already in Kelce and Rice.

kccrow 04-16-2024 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17484058)
"<85" means "less than 85 yards"

He averaged 60 yards per game, which was worse than everyone in that list, and they were all busts. Just a data point, but certainly a valid point to consider.

Yeah. I talked about not being a 1k WR in college at any point a while back when I was arguing with MM back and forth. 85 per is 1100 at 13g and 1200 at 14g. That ups the bar even a bit more.

The 1st Round WR class should be Harrison Jr, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr, and Franklin. You know Worthy is going to get in there because of speed even if he's kind of teetering on that edge. All these other guys getting 1st round buzz just don't have 1st round-caliber production and it matters in my opinion.


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