Good advice there...

She doesn't seem like the type based on what I already know about her, but I'll let her twist in the wind I guess. Seems like an asshole thing to do, though.

Chicks dig assholes.

Really, both interest and conversation should be reciprocal so let her lead.

Not this one.

WOW, someone else who has no life :D

Nice guys finish last, don't act like she's your everything by kissing her ass or being super nice until you officially have her...

Girls don't dig super nice guys they use them as door mats

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That's probably okay as a general rule but I think I've done pretty well for myself in that department and I've always treated women with a great deal of respect and been incredibly nice. So I don't know if I'm an exception to the rule or I've just dated the exceptions. Of course I'm speaking entirely in terms of dating - my first marriage was another story altogether.

That's not really the vibe I'm getting from this one. She doesn't even use foul language.

It doesn't mean you have to blow her off or intentionally take 3 minutes between messages.... but, there's a fine line between 'taking it slow' and 'I wouldn't want to lose you as a friend'. And by 'I wouldn't want to lose you as a friend', she means 'I wasn't ever really interested' or 'you missed your chance'.

Like others have said, if you're available all the time and are carrying the conversation, how do you know if she's interested, or just bored and doesn't want to be rude?

You don't have to be someone you're not or play elaborate games... just don't be the puppy that is jumping up and down in the doorway when she comes home everyday.

I don't even talk to her everyday. She was sitting there online for like three days in a row and I purposefully ignored her because I was told to in this wonderful thread. Then she messaged me the next day.

Cool. :thumb:

I learned the "girls like it if you're a little bit of an asshole" far too late in life, so I give my two cents to any 'nice guy' looking for advice.

Yes and no. It's a fine line. You want to show interest, but not seem desparate. You want to appear to have a life, but don't be too busy to meet her. Etc, etc, etc....

I'm one who falls for charmers. Maybe that's where my problem lies.

See I agree with this. I suppose dating is different than it was in my day, but I did pretty well with the nice guy approach. I even used the shy, nice guy approach a lot and it really worked well. Maybe the ladies have evolved away from that.

I'm not saying be a complete dickbag.. just don't be the nicest guy in the world willing to do anything and everything at any time ie. a pushover. Have your own life, make decisions, don't always drop whatever you're doing, etc. I'm not saying you need to be rude, but as bearcat said you can't be that puppy waiting for her to get home.