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Hammock Parties 12-23-2017 04:26 PM

what a hottie

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BigRedChief 12-23-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303315)
I think that Rian Johnson is in danger of losing his prospective Star Wars Trilogy, just like Colin Trevorrow lost Episode IX after the failure of The Book of Henry and Lord & Miller fired from Solo after the film was nearly completed.

When beloved star Mark Hamill is saying that "It's not MY Luke Skywalker" and apparently, hundreds of thousands, if not millions agree with him, Rian Johnson put KK and Bob Iger in a tough spot.

Give it to Tarantino.:D

BigRedChief 12-23-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13303580)

kind of a neccissity for the role, don't you think?

dirk digler 12-23-2017 04:46 PM

Saw it this afternoon and my opinion of it is very meh. Better than the prequels but that is about as high as it goes.

Still love Rogue One.

Chiefspants 12-23-2017 05:08 PM

Forbes needs to slow down a bit.

This film is still piss pounding Rogue One at the Box Office, a film that generated over a billion dollars.

Hammock Parties 12-23-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13303643)
Forbes needs to slow down a bit.

This film is still piss pounding Rogue One at the Box Office, a film that generated over a billion dollars.

Only in the internet generation could a film with a 92% RT rating and $635 million gross worldwide in a week be considered anything but a wild success.

DaneMcCloud 12-23-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13303646)
Only in the internet generation could a film with a 92% RT rating and $635 million gross worldwide in a week be considered anything but a wild success.

The opening weekend is almost irrelevant at this point, as it was projected to hit $220 million its first weekend.

What matters now is whether or not it has legs.

Yesterday was off by 76% over last Friday, which isn't a good sign, especially with word of mouth, Mark Hamill included, slamming the film.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-23-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303674)
The opening weekend is almost irrelevant at this point, as it was projected to hit $220 million its first weekend.

What matters now is whether or not it has legs.

Yesterday was off by 76% over last Friday, which isn't a good sign, especially with word of mouth, Mark Hamill included, slamming the film.

That's unfortunate. I guess he can't separate himself enough from the character to realize that Luke could have gone a billion different ways post-Jedi.
People get old, make mistakes, harden. Ideas and philosophies change. There was no set way this could have gone down.

Hammock Parties 12-23-2017 06:59 PM

Hamill already rolled back his comments. He made them before he saw the movie.

He said after seeing the movie, he was wrong and Rian was right.

DaneMcCloud 12-23-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13303773)
Hamill already rolled back his comments. He made them before he saw the movie.

He said after seeing the movie, he was wrong and Rian was right.

I haven’t talked to any other adult Star Wars fans that liked the film.

All have said they have no desire to see it again or in IMAX and that Rian Johnston essentially ruined Star Wars.

My money is on him losing his trilogy.

crazycoffey 12-23-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303776)
I haven’t talked to any other adult Star Wars fans that liked the film.

All have said they have no desire to see it again or in IMAX and that Rian Johnston essentially ruined Star Wars.

My money is on him losing his trilogy.


I liked it. Saw it on IMAX too. Will see again

mnchiefsguy 12-23-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303674)
The opening weekend is almost irrelevant at this point, as it was projected to hit $220 million its first weekend.

What matters now is whether or not it has legs.

Yesterday was off by 76% over last Friday, which isn't a good sign, especially with word of mouth, Mark Hamill included, slamming the film.

The entire weekend is projected to be down by around 65%, which is closer to normal.

Have to remember Friday's numbers from last weekend include 50 million in Thursday preview revenue, so the dip on Friday is always going to be much more significant.

It is not going to do what TFA did, but no one expected that. It should wind up between 700-775 million stateside, and another 850-900 million or so overseas. TFA did 2 billion worldwide, so TLJ coming in at 1.5-1.7 billion will not be a bad haul at all.

And, at the end of the day, even a slightly lower gross will not have any impact on Episode IX. Folks who hated TLJ will show up to see if JJ fixes everything, and those that liked it are going to show up to see how it ends.

The key for the future is the development of the post Skywalker storyline and the individual movies. Solo needs to be good, and so does the Kenobi movie to keep the stand alone movies viable. The new trilogy needs to figure out how to keep the essence of Star Wars while breaking new ground---whether it is Rian doing those movies or someone else.

mnchiefsguy 12-23-2017 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303776)
I haven’t talked to any other adult Star Wars fans that liked the film.

All have said they have no desire to see it again or in IMAX and that Rian Johnston essentially ruined Star Wars.

My money is on him losing his trilogy.

I could see this happening if KK and Lucasfilm lose faith in him. KK is not hesitant to make a change for the good of the franchise.

DaneMcCloud 12-23-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 13303780)
It is not going to do what TFA did, but no one expected that. It should wind up between 700-775 million stateside, and another 850-900 million or so overseas. TFA did 2 billion worldwide, so TLJ coming in at 1.5-1.7 billion will not be a bad haul at all.

I will be absolutely stunned if this film ends up with $1.7 billion.

I think it’ll have difficult time to get $1.3 billion.

Great Expectations 12-23-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13303513)
I don't think that the audience would have minded if TLJ had its own storyline, it's that people have waited 40 years to see Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master and that Luke didn't really appear in TLJ.

Also, the raging debate about Rey's and Snoke's origins weren't answered, making this film unenjoyable for many of the old die hard fans, hence the box office results and Rotten Tomatoes score.



Abrams isn't known for his originality so I'm guessing it'll just harken back to Return of the Jedi.

A small band of Rebels, led by Poe Dameron, will do something to weaken or destroy The First Order once and for all, while Rey will hunt down to confront and ultimately kill Kylo Ren, restoring peace to the galaxy

They'll throw in a little Finn, Rose and Chewie and bam! There's your movie.

No doubt this will be the script and it’s a damn shame. TLJ wasn’t perfect, but it was at least original. It is better than TFA, it doesn’t tough Rogue One, but it was original. The canon nerds are creating more Ewoks with their hate.


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