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penbrook 08-08-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12998757)
Well if he shows competency Friday night it may not matter how good Patrick looks Bray will be able to keep his job even though Patrick has all the upside.


It's not really geared to be fair but at least Patrick has to earn his spot rather than just given to him and that's good for him to be humble as a first round pick imo. I'd still rather go with Patrick as #2 but still got to see them both in live action ye ye ye ye

May the best man win

thabear04 08-08-2017 04:39 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chiefs-...7039--nfl.html

Chiefs QB Mahomes to start second half of preseason opener

ST. JOSEPH, Mo. (AP) -- It has been years since the Kansas City Chiefs gave their fans any reason to stick around after halftime of their preseason opener, when the starters and backups generally take a seat.

That will change Friday night.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid plans to give each of his quarterbacks a full quarter against the San Francisco 49ers. That means Alex Smith will start and veteran backup Tyler Bray will get the second quarter, while first-round draft pick Patrick Mahomes II will start the second half.

It's arguably the most anticipated preseason debut by a Chiefs rookie since 1983, which also was the last time Kansas City spent a first-round draft pick on a quarterback.

Asked what he wants to see out of his young signal caller, Reid replied: ''I'd tell you this with everyone: execute. Obviously the quarterbacks have a little more responsibility with all the calls and so on, but the main thing is to execute.''

Reid said most of the starters would play the first quarter alongside Smith, while the backups on the depth chart this week will have Bray under center. So whatever the outcome for Mahomes is Friday night, it must be examined through the prism of working with third-team players.

Likewise, it will almost certainly come against the second- and third-team 49ers defense.

That's one reason Reid was reticent Tuesday following the Chiefs' final open practice of the week to put too much stock in a single preseason game. He instead will lump the performances in a game setting along with what he's seen out of practice and the meeting rooms, and begin deliberating with his coaching staff on what will ultimately comprise his 53-man roster.

With changes to the cutdown rules, he'll also have three more games to examine.

''The first preseason game, everyone has an opportunity to play. After that, it's not guaranteed,'' Reid said. ''That kind of stuff has never changed. The thing you don't want to do is give another team, if possible, a good player. You want to make sure you do as thorough evaluation as you can.''

Several starters are also unlikely to play because of injuries, and at least one of them could force the Chiefs to make a roster move ahead of their preseason opener.

Reid indicated kicker Cairo Santos could be out while nursing a groin injury.

''We'll just monitor it and see how he does,'' said Reid, who had former Stanford kicker Conrad Ukropina and Liberty's John Lunsford in for an audition. ''We've got some kickers that are here to come in. We'll work those guys out just in case he can't go in this game.

''Other than that,'' Reid said, ''he's going to be fine. It's not a serious deal.''

Most of the other injury woes have occurred on defense.

Rookie lineman Tanoh Kpassagnon was the latest to go down with what Reid called shin splints. DT Bennie Logan has already been out with a knee injury, while second-year pro Chris Jones remains on the PUP list following offseason knee surgery.

DT Roy Miller, signed last week, continues to work his way back from a torn Achilles tendon sustained last October. He has yet to practice with the team.

In the secondary, star safety Eric Berry is unlikely to play while dealing with a heel injury that has sidelined him since Saturday. Cornerbacks De'Vante Bausby (ankle) and Jacoby Glenn (concussion) are also out, while linebackers Tamba Hali and Dadi Nicolas remain out with knee injuries.

The positive of all those injuries is that others will have an opportunity to stand out.

''You get to see them with the swings that happen in games. That is really what it is all about,'' defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said, ''is how you deal with these swings and can you get your focus right back in. Can you let that play go, good or bad, and get right into it? Or hey, we have had two or three series that have not gone the way we wanted it to go on defense. So can we get this thing back on track and get in position to win the game?

''We have a lot of young guys,'' Sutton said, ''so I think it will be exciting to see them.''

Halfcan 08-08-2017 05:29 PM

Calling Tyler Bray a veteran backup is a real stretch.

**** Bray.

Reerun_KC 08-08-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12998957)
Calling Tyler Bray a veteran backup is a real stretch.

**** Bray.

People are calling Bray a veteran backup? Classic CP stupidity...

Kiimo 08-08-2017 06:07 PM

Friday at 6 can't get here fast enough. Oh hey I get out of work at 6. Sounds like I'm gonna need to jump out of here early and immediately start drinking.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-08-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12997956)
Can we give him a full preseason before $#itting all over him?...

No, because ThreebagsO'douchin' has firmly tied the remainder of his testicles to the Shitty-Shitty Bang-Bang Playnottolose Express.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12999049)
People are calling Bray a veteran backup? Classic CP stupidity...

Classic stupidity on your part.

No one in this forum said that he was a veteran backup.

The writer of the article linked, Dave Skretta, wrote that description.

Beer goggles already?

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2017 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12998957)
Calling Tyler Bray a veteran backup is a real stretch.

**** Bray.

Yeah, that's really smart.

:rolleyes:

Chiefs fans had better hope that Bray improves this year because there aren't any reliable options on the market that know Reid's offense.

okcchief 08-08-2017 07:36 PM

I like the idea of Mahomes being 3rd string if he gets a full half week one. It will be the most interested I've ever been in the second half of a preseason game hands down.


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jjchieffan 08-08-2017 07:41 PM

I'm not concerned with how much playing time he gets this week. It's just game one of the preseason. Game 4 is what I'm looking forward to. The starters will play one series, like always. Then I expect to see Mahomes play for a full half. Plus, he will have the full preseason under his belt and should be our most indicative view of him.

Reerun_KC 08-08-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 12999365)
I like the idea of Mahomes being 3rd string if he gets a full half week one. It will be the most interested I've ever been in the second half of a preseason game hands down.


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They hype for Mahomes pre season games will be electric... Can.Not.Wait...

Even though I have a company dinner Friday @ 6.

Sandy Vagina 08-08-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12999467)
They hype for Mahomes pre season games will be electric... Can.Not.Wait....

It really will be. :)

Reerun_KC 08-08-2017 08:04 PM

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It really will be. :)

You just Shitty rolled me

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-08-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12999467)
They hype for Mahomes pre season games will be electric... Can.Not.Wait...

An actual reason, to give an actual ****.

Haven't been able to say that for DECADES.

dirk digler 08-08-2017 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12999216)
Yeah, that's really smart.

:rolleyes:

Chiefs fans had better hope that Bray improves this year because there aren't any reliable options on the market that know Reid's offense.

We don't need a veteran backup we have Mahomes. If Alice goes down I would want Mahomes to play anyway.


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