What's crazier is how some fans in a desperate attempt to never be on the wrong side of the media wanted it to be real.

Because he was never even ****ing charged and there were witnesses and the owner contradicting the photographers story. This is also just a reeruned ****ing argument from you.

And again, an assault on video isn't remotely comparable to a ****ing car wreck and guys walking away from it. Car wrecks with minor injuries have no real emotional impact just because it's on video, even if they're fleeing the scene too.

No one on this board could even agree which guy was Rashee. This is true

I eat this reeruns stupid arguments for breakfast.

I haven't even gone into the fact that this started as a comparison of Rice and Sutton.

No reasonable person sees a car wreck with minor injuries and has a stronger emotional reaction than reading a headline about a man strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out the ****ing window. Like what are we even talking about here? This is such a stupid argument.

There's a huge difference between beating a woman on camera and driving recklessly. That's all I have to say about it.

She may have been involved in street racing suttons car then wrecked it, and deserved what she ****ing got.

There's also a huge ****ing difference between strangling a woman and throwing her out the ****ing 3rd story window off camera and driving recklessly on it. The video doesn't change the drastic difference in the acts.

Thanks to this thread I went back and watched the crash video again. I think I am scarred for life! I don't know if I will ever be able to get in my car again without the fear of death on the freeway.

We should completely prosecute and punish people based on what could have happened instead of what actually did happen.

End of sarcasm

I hope the civil suits get done quickly so we can move on from this. We have heard the arguments multiple times. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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Hmm.. I wonder which one could be Rashee..

I have no reason not to. No one would have begrudged them cutting Hunt for any multitude of reasons after that video was released. They had no reason to lie.

Huh. Sounds like a video may have changed things..

I never made this claim.

And before you hit “submit reply”, I’m not “acting like it” either.

You know you're getting your ass handed to you when you respond to all those paragraphs with individual sentences. Your argument is so ****ing dumb and weak.

Tap out acknowledged

(Did I do that right?)

yOu kNoW yOu’Re GeTtInG yOuR aSs HaNdEd To YoU wHeN yOu RePlY tO a PoSt

LMAO

Look around, nobody agrees with you. Everybody knows your argument is dumb as ****.

How can you make me tapout when you've already been knocked the **** out?

You two should either **** or fight, this is silly.

Agreed.

I'm not saying that there should be no repercussions for Rashee, but comparing it to savagely beating women is nonsense.

That said, I would not be surprised if the NFL hits him pretty hard on the suspension because they really don't like KC winning every year. If they can screw us, they will.

Tell that to the guy that is arguing that Rice received more outrage than Sutton simply because his car wreck was on video and people didn't actually see Sutton strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out the 3rd story window. Not because Rice is a Chief and we're public enemy #1 and the most hated team in the NFL.

That doesn’t surprise me. Most people don’t bother to read to understand the nuance of my argument. Either that or they’re maliciously stupid, like you.

You made the claim that there’s been more outrage over Rice than Sutton, claiming it was “ALL because of our success” and I offered a different perspective - the video.

Everybody is well aware that you're trying to argue that Rice's car wreck being caught on video is why it received more outrage than headlines of Sutton strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out of the third story window, and they think it's reeruned too.

"It's just that nobody is understanding or listening to me!!" :deevee:

It is all because our success. Many people think Rice deserves at least 8 games, and if he gets any less, they will 100% cry. They don't actually care about what he did though, they just want the Chiefs to suffer on the field.

Where's the outrage over Sutton's suspension?

I actually don't disagree with what Virus said, there being a video is always going to make it worse in the eyes of the NFL. Without a video people are less likely to be as mad and assume oh well who knows what happened etc etc.

I also think the Chiefs being in the season opener doesn't help either.

That's not the argument. The argument is that people are more outraged over a car wreck than brutal domestic violence because the car wreck was on tape.

You know those people just want the Chiefs as a team to suffer and don't really care about Rice or the morality of the situation. If they did, they'd be outraged over Sutton's suspension.

People are outraged over the car thing because all they see is Henry Ruggs part 2 with a luckier outcome.

Had the Ruggs thing never happened this would be a lesser issue.

If you switch the entire thing and Rice commits domestic violence and Sutton gets in a car wreck racing and fleeing on video, Rice is still the one that people are more outraged about, even more so.

I'll die on that ****ing hill.

It’s deeper than that, but sure. It seems obvious to me that any story with a video is going to have longer legs than a headline. If it’s got a video that can be looped on nightly news and every social media platform from Reddit to Facebook, it’ll touch more people.

I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you.

I’ll offer you this, though: the Chiefs have had a bit of a tumultuous offseason thus far. We’ve had the Rice accident (video) , Rice alleged assault (no video), Butker commencement speech (video), Buggs dog killing charges (no video), and Wanya & Godrick’s marijuana charges (no video).

Why do you think it is that the two incidents that have sparked the most controversy were on video and the ones that did not contain video were literally not given two shits about?

Your argument that it’s all about our success just doesn’t hold water. If it did, people would have cared more about Rice’s alleged assault and the other guy’s petty bullshit.

I think there's truth to both sides, yea a lot of people are tired of the Chiefs and want them to lose.

He also put himself in a shitty situation where he looks terrible on video.

Well

A no one cares about weed, thats a non issue for 97% of the country
B Isaih Buggs is a borderline player hence why he was cut

Yep. You really just never know.. unless there’s a video lol

Holy ****.

Nobody gives a **** about Buggs and Wanya/Godrick because Buggs is a PS level player and the other was a ****ing arrest for weed. If it were Chris Jones instead of Buggs it's an entirely different story, and you ****ing know that. The outrage over Butker is purely political.

You can't possibly be this ****ing stupid.

Jordan Addison also had a “car thing” post-Ruggs and there wasn’t this same delusional outrage.

Yea, they just thought maybe Sutton was innocent. It's not like he wasn't running from police or anything.

It has nothing to do with presumed innocence. We don't even have a culture of presumed innocence anymore.

He got a ticket without a video, Rice hit people with a video.

I understand why it's selective but video is always going to amplify it on top of there being a wreck.

Alvin Kamara and his possee beat the ****ing shit out of a guy ALL ON VIDEO and there was little to no outrage, and Kamara got a measly 4 game suspension after playing an entire season after the video was released, no outrage for that either.

The NFL only cares about the video as much as it affects the public.


So you admit that there are more factors at play than simply everyone hating the Chiefs?


Yeah, I’ll take the L on that one. I was remembering it being large amounts of weed. Every article I can find now says it was a misdemeanor so I assume it wasn’t trafficking levels.

Either way, it’s still obvious that there are more factors at play than Chiefs fatigue.

If he could just admit that he’s wrong, that the existence of a video makes it worse we could all move along.

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Well the sad truth is that Alvin and his crew beat the shit out of a guy. People don’t care about grown men in these situations like they do women, elderly and children.

Add to that the fact that it was in Vegas at 6am.

Another layer is that the video is very dark and you can’t make a ton of the action out. That video is not very marketable.

Make it 2-0. This beat down has to count for more than one lol

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Proof that Staylor won :)

No one here could identify Rice by the video or photos. That ends this argument.

Yea he admitted he did it so that throws that out the window.

LMAO

You know how full of shit you are and that the Kamara situation clearly disproves this stupid ****ing argument you're trying to make about videos and their impact on outrage. The image of Kamara's victim alone should spark more outrage than the video of Rice's wreck.


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The truth is that if Kamara were a Chief, this story would've gotten WAY more play and there would all of a sudden have been this outrage that Kamara was allowed to play a full season then get a slap on the wrist.

But he's a Saint, so outrage was minimal at best, even with the BIG BAD VIDEO.

Virus loves to simp for opposing teams

That's what you got from that? Even Mecca who's the only person arguing your side other than you knew how stupid this particular argument you're trying to make is.

Fans aren't stupid. Buggs/Wanya/Godrick are no name players that aren't impacting wins/losses if they are suspended/cut. They know Rice is good. They know losing Rice hurts the Chiefs.

If it were Chris Jones instead of Buggs, there would 100% be national outrage and calls for cutting, suspension, etc.

https://youtu.be/HXigeS3nSGY?si=njPTUa_poazjpuiY

This video is objectively worse than Rice's. It's quite easy to see that they ****ed this dude up bad, and there's no denying it. GMAFB with the excuses.

Why do you girls talk so much?

Because strangulation is a misdemeanor.

Fans are very stupid, for one thing.

To suggest that the Chiefs have enough haters to make this story matter out of pure spite is absurd. There has to be some factor involved that elicits an emotional response from the average American. In this case, we’ve got “entitled millionaire athlete endangers lives of soccer mom and young kids on their daily commute then callously flees scene - ON VIDEO.”

The Butker situation is another perfect example of this.

The average American has no idea the importance of anyone on our roster outside of Mahomes and Kelce.


That’s not true.

It is true that the common CPer, 45 year old white dudes, did confuse two dreadheaded black guys, but once actual black people got involved, it became apparent which one Rice was.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...1#post17464211

See posts 628 and 637.

The avergae American didn't give two ****s about the Rice story to bring with dumb ****.

The only people who cared are NFL fans, and NFL/sports media. Do yous seriously think this was some national story that non-football fans were discussing at the dinner table or something? LMAO ROFL

Twitter is the perfect place to express outrage, and the outrage was clearly from non-Chief NFL fans, not Susan the librarian who doesn't even ****ing watch football LMAO

I could definitely fap to a video of you being strangled and thrown out of a 3 story window.

You’re the one who was crying about all the outrage so I wasn’t sure. To quote you, you were kind of acting like it.

This story is like 3 months old now. I doubt many fans outside of KC are discussing this anymore.

Yes, the outrage from NFL fans across the country, not the average American who doesn't even care about the NFL. Why the **** would that person hate the Chiefs anyways? LMAO

You're so reeruned.

Because they watch the Super Bowl and we’ve played in four of the last five of them lol

****ing idiot.

The civil suit talks about his professional accomplishments before it talks about the accident. 😂

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You aren't even making ****ing sense.

I've clearly been talking about NFL fans this entire time. You are the one who brought up the average American who doesn't know any Chiefs outside of Mahomes and Kelce.

Those people weren't the ones outraged over the Rice incident, because if you don't give a shit about the NFL, then that story meant basically nothing to you. Nobody cares about a car wreck with minors injuries, even if it's on video. This was a story because it was the Chiefs and a prominent player, which would lead to some sort of punishment from the NFL/Chiefs.

That's the nature of the beast, unless it's your team no one wants to see the same team all the time.

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Somebody needs a hug and some therapy.

He knows 🥰

Somebody doesn't have a dark sense of humor.

He's not the only one around here.

People that make false claims in an attempt to smear and refuse to support them deserve absolutely no respect whatsoever (Katipan).

Truthfully, I don’t think anyone is outraged over the Rice incident but whatever. I think most people thought “Damn, that’s shitty” when they saw the video and went about their day.

😂😂

You’re welcome, Virus.

So after all this time you are now saying that people saw the video and didn't give a shit?

LMAO

You're....special.

Rashee Rice [arrested and now out on bail]
 

This is what we call hyperbole.

There’s a difference between thinking something was shitty and wanting the party responsible to be held accountable and being outraged.

I know you’re one of those Gen Z dweebs who likes to make everything sound more dire than it actually is but I truly don’t believe there was any outrage over the Rice incident.. and I don’t believe I’ve ever said there was. You said that.

He's been arguing this entire time that the outrage is because of video, and now he's saying there was no outage, even with the video.

You can't make this ****ing shit up. This is what happens when you're just playing contrarian and don't actually have an argument.

Then why haven't you been arguing this from the beginning?

It's because you're completely and utterly full of shit. This is just a very ridiculous example of moving the goalposts entirely.

The only one that gives a **** about Rashee Rice getting punished are opposing NFL fans. Remember how when a complete shit team like the Browns scooped up Hunt, iy was a "great signing!" "Classy move!" " redemption chance!" But yet the same guy being removed from a record breaking Chiefs offense was a "thug" "lowlife" "criminal" "Chiefs should be ashamed"

Here’s a snippet of the Sutton incident, for the record.

As it stands this dude was cut by the Lions and picked up shortly thereafter by the Steelers. With video evidence of this, this dude would never play another snap in the NFL.

Tell me how video doesn’t play a role in these things?

The defense rests.

Lol @ “repeated attempts to reach him by phone were unsuccessful”

“Hey, this is Sheriff Alcott with the.. uh.. Hillsborough County Pol- that’s not important. Uhhh.. we wanted to see if you’d swing by the station ASAP. Uh, don’t worry about that thing last night. This has nothing to do with that.

Alright, welp. Hope to hear from ya soon!”

I already did. The Kamara example totally disproves your argument, which is why you completely avoided my last couple of posts about it.

There's an actual victim in the Kamara video. The entire point of video making things worse is that you see the victim being victimized and it triggers something in you. No reasonable/average person is more outraged at the Rice video than the Kamara one, because you don't even see somebody being victimized in it.

And I don't know what point you think you're making or countering about Sutton, but yes, domestic violence being caught on tape makes things MUCH worse. I haven't argued otherwise. The point is that a car wreck isn't remotely comparable, video or no video.

You’re hilarious. “Hey, why did you argue about the thing I was completely wrong about and not argue about the other thing I was also completely wrong about?!?” LMAO

To answer your question, it didn’t matter. You say you’re seeing outrage, I will believe you and argue in good faith to start.

Funny enough, I actually wasn’t even arguing with you to start. You claimed all of the outrage was due to Rice being a Chief and people wanting us to fail and I offered the perspective that having video evidence always makes a story bigger than it would be without video evidence.

I’m not comparing the incidents themselves at all. You keep trying to create that false equivalence at every turn. “But but but the Kamara video!” as if there isn’t a key difference in victim demographic between the two cases.

What an absolute load of horseshit to deflect from the fact that you've been arguing this entire time that the difference in outrage is because of video and lack thereof and are now trying to say there wasn't any outrage in the first place.

You're such a disingenuous contrarian bundle of sticks.

Kid can’t even read- resorts to calling me a bundle of sticks.

What a nerd ROFL

Apparently you can't tell the difference between not reading your bullshit and not buying your bullshit.

I'm going to have to disagree about video not mattering. Ray Rice is the best example. Went from a minor 2 game suspension to his career effectively being over once video was released.

Only a moron would compare the Rice incident to Ruggs.

Ruggs was driving 120 on a freaking RESIDENTIAL street.

Rice was probably going about 25 miles an hour faster than regular traffic.

Then you don't understand the argument.

Nobody is saying the video doesn't matter from the NFL's perspective.

Again, the point I was making was a comparison is outrage from the Rice incident and the Sutton incident. A video of a simple car wreck and them fleeing the scene isn't the difference in people being more outraged about that than a guy strangling his girlfriend and throwing her out of a 3 story window.

You dont say that video of a guy knocking a woman out cold made it worse for him?

:facepalm:

When I saw the video of the Rashee incident I literally thought, that's it?

I honestly am flabbergasted at these insane comparisons.

It's as if people don't understand why the video was bad, just that it was a video. We actually see Rice being a violent POS and we see the victim being victimized.

You can't even see Rice driving, or any of the victims, in that car wreck video. It's not even remotely comparable.

The Kamara video is much more comparable and helps my argument, not theirs.

If there weren't video of the incident itself and photos of Rice and his crew leaving the scene of the accident, this is probably already settled with a 2 game suspension. Guessing it will be at least 4+ now.