I know but with Robinson, I'm sure he wants to play with a QB that can actually get him the ball.

It all depends on the structure.

So then, yeah, maybe it's Clev or KC.

Prob breaks down like below:

KC
#3 option
Mahomes
SB Opp

CLEV
#1b option
Watson
$$$

If he goes with Cleveland, the rest of the WR market dominos start to fall. Landry, JuJu, OBJ... we end up with an upgrade either way.

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I don't think those are his only options. I highly doubt that only three teams are in on him right now. You can probably add the Raiders, Patriots and Falcons to that list as well.

Yeah. The problem is that OTC doesn't allow you to cut him in 2023 and see what the hit would be. It kind of just locks it at that point.

Thats Gay!

Don’t be surprised if Robinson and Deshaun land in Atlanta

We probably need to be looking at a vet CB or two. Who's out there?

You could do it, but with Jones still being fairly young, I would imagine any restructure includes a 3rd year on the deal.

If they stuck to just a 2-year deal, you'd turn that $18 million roster bonus into a signing bonus and maybe put a void year on the back end. That would take the 18 million and split it into 3 chunks of $6 million so you'd bring his cap hit this year from $19 million down to about $7 million. The downshot is you create $12 million in hard cap money in 23 and 24 (again, presuming the void year). And his base is at $19 million for next season so you're looking at a cap hit of $25 million.

Now at that point you could presumptively take that $19 million base and AGAIN bonus it out as part of a 2 year extension. So then he's on a 3 year deal starting in 2023 w/ the $6 million in restructure bonus on the cap plus ANOTHER $6 million ish from the extension as a signing bonus cap charge. So you're starting in 2023 with a cap figure of $12+ million. Presuming a relatively low year 1 salary you could get away with about $14 million but you've now stuck dead money into 2024 and 2025 as well and likely some pretty hefty salary figures in there.

It could all be done but you'd need a willing partner in Jones. Or ultimately you just eat some shit next year if you chose to cut him and whatever roster bonus you converted to a restructure bonus all hits the cap next year (or potentially over 2 years if June 1 tagged).

Clear as mud?

released because gay

I’m not sure if this has been posted but Marcus Davenport is staying with saints. What are our options at DE now?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...earance%3Ddark

Stephon Gilmore but Rasul Douglas would be a good cheap option

James Bradberry!

I'm not into paying Gilmore.

Douglas maybe.

Yea the Santa have saved 80 mil in cap space without releasing a single player.

I am preparing myself mentally for the letdown when I see a "Chiefs sign Robinson" headline only to find out it is the Chiefs re-signing Demarcus Robinson.

Chandler Jones

Zadarius Smith

Yeah about as clear as it's going to get at this point. Tacking on that 3rd year wouldn't be that bad because right now his cap hits are $29 million and $27 million next year.

It's all a waste though because I highly doubt he would do it. As it stands right now, he's going to hit FA when he's 29-30 and he'll be able to cash in one last time.

Ah shit - I just overlooked the fact that he's already sitting on some substantial restructure bonuses this year and next.

So yeah, you do that this year you really need that void year to kick that $18 million over 3 years rather than splitting it into 2. Otherwise you're looking at only gaining about $9 million in cap space this year and immediately starting with about $16 million in insecapable cap charge for him next year while he's ALSO sporting a $19 million base salary.

So that would be a $35 million cap hit next season. Uh - no thanks.

If you restructure it needs to be part of an extension. Otherwise you're probably better served to keep your powder dry.

I still think Robinson isn't going to happen because of Nagy's presence on our staff.

Would love to be wrong about that.

The only thing I could see is them trying to work out an extension next season like they're doing with Hill this year.

Shocked that there has been zero buzz associating us with a DE?

I just did a medi sesh. You need to quit being negative

Robinson would have virtually no interaction with him. I can't see it being a major decision factor at all. Maybe if everything else - money, scheme fit, QB situation, etc. - were equal.

Zero?

There's been buzz around Za'Darius Smith since the Packers cut him.

If there is anyone he's pissed out....it's Pace. Pace wouldn't pay him.

I’d rather have chandler. He’s long with 35” arms and a better scheme fit, plus he’s been healthier than smith.

Kinda depends on Nagy's actual role vs. his title.

Sure, he's the 'QB Coach' but if he's really an assistant OC of sorts, Robinson will have plenty of interaction with him.

That said - the whole idea is overblown. What will make/break the signing is money and opportunity. And unfortunately, many teams can offer more opportunity so the Chiefs will have to close the gap with money.

And I'm just not excited about that prospect.

Yep.

THAT QB is also being coached by the guy he has serious trust issues with right now. And as a 'senior assistant coach' in addition, I have no doubt he will be involved in game planning with the offense

Not saying that would definitively keep him from signing here, but it may be a roadblock the Chiefs have to overcome if they are really interested in AR.





Edit: Sorry, late to the thread. Just read this issue has already been covered.

It's going to be Juju or Landry. And if I had to put money on one of them....it'd be Juju.

Jackson just got a boner

Is there anyone we could trade for? Davenport restructured with the saints and hunter may cost too much? Any other DEs available via trade?

Sammy Watkins about to sign somewhere?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good things coming y’all stay tuned..!</p>&mdash; King me (@sammywatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/sammywatkins/status/1504102406145163264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's what I think too. It's going to be Juju. They wanted him last year.

How about we keep our picks and just ****ing sign one?

Yeah, that is likely and probably the obvious pick since we know the Chiefs offered him a contract last off-season.

The Saints cleared $80M in space without dropping a player.

I know they were in the hole, but having a hard time thinking they can't afford pretty much whoever they want.

EDIT: Sorry, Mahomo - repeating what you said earlier

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brandin Cooks for the 2022 30th overall pick.<br><br>Would you take this trade between the Texans and Chiefs? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TradeBot1000?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TradeBot1000</a> <a href="https://t.co/14io0jZdDW">pic.twitter.com/14io0jZdDW</a></p>&mdash; Good Morning Football (@gmfb) <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/1504115270784208900?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hell ****ing no.

Not for our 2nd either.

Cooks is severely underrated. 1,000 yard season in virtually every season he’s played

The next concussion he has could turn him into a vegetable as well, so there's that.

They are losing free agents so they aren't gonna be the same team next year.

I'm willing to trade a first all the time any time.

But no. Just no.

Maybe for a 5th.

I actually agree, just trying to anticipate what may happen and see what options are out there. I’ve wanted chandler Jones for a long time because he doesn’t cost us any picks.

I like Cooks but no need to spend high draft capital unless his salary cap number was amazing. Lockett's cap number makes a late 2nd worth it.

**** no.

Unless we give 30 and they give us 37.

*insert 'ahh hell naw' gif*

Cooks for the 30th pick?

TradeBot is a crackhead.

Houston traded a 2nd round pick to the Rams to get Cooks (and got a 4th round pick back in return as well)... why would it make sense for the Chiefs to give up a first round pick to get Cooks now when he's two years older?

Houston traded pick #57 to get him in 2020, the Chiefs trading pick #30 to get him in 2022?

Hell no.

I’m not a big fan of za Darius smith. I’m concerned that chandler may sign elsewhere. If we did trade, what would a trade for hunter look like? Could we trade the vikes our first this year and a conditional pick next year and get the vikes 55th pick back and hunter?

I like the value of the 55th pick. I’m not sure how big a drop off in talent is from 30-55 for us, lots of good players in that range. Maybe target Sam Williams if we do the trade?

THEY TRADED DEANDRE HOPKINS FOR A 2ND!!! Offer them a ****ing ham sandwich and a 7th

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dolphins are signing back restricted free-agent safety Sheldrick Redwine on a one-year deal, per <a href="https://twitter.com/DrewJRosenhaus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrewJRosenhaus</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLrecord?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLrecord</a>.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504127464938909697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zadarius Smith has had issues with a back injury which concerns me. Back injuries tend to linger especially as players age (he'll be 30 next year).

Has issues with Za’Darius Smith but wants to trade for a broke dick Danielle Hunter.

Makes sense.

That's why you sign him to a 2-year deal with an out after year 1. The back injury concerns me as well but there's ways to mitigate it in the short term. You wouldn't be signing him long-term with his age anyway...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Commanders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Commanders</a> DE Matthew Ioannidis is being released, source said. They had shopped him. Now set for a release.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504127138819186690?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Woohoo! He's our guy!

Hunter’s upside is huge. He hasn’t shown any concerns with his neck injury and was extremely productive after coming back from the neck injury. See below, 6 sacks and 27 pressures in 5 games!! I’m not concerned about the pectoral injury. He’s been making big money also so I’m not concerned about a drop off in play after a pay day like frank clark. You could mitigate the injury concern in the trade with basing the pick next year on his production. He’s a scheme fit, freak athlete and he’s young and relatively cheap. Again, I prefer Jones but I’d prefer the hunter trade over z. Smith. We can still get good talent if we acquire the 55th pick back.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/.amp/...onnum-willekes

Then a training camp "tweak" in 2020 turned into neck surgery and a lost season. So Hunter attacked his rehab with his famously unparalleled work ethic and got back to where he wanted to be. He dominated the Cardinals with three sacks in Week 2 of this season, and had racked up six sacks and 27 pressures through five games. He was well on his way to another monster season.

This situation deserves audio

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For that matter, it deserves the story

Not trading for a guy with a previous neck or back injury. If he were a FA, that's one thing but hard no on trading picks for him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Commanders have released offensive lineman Ereck Flowers, per his agent <a href="https://twitter.com/DrewJRosenhaus?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrewJRosenhaus</a>. He now will be a free agent.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504134870775353346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What time does this officially start? Seems pretty quiet...

Yep, I would be hesitant in general on guys that have back issues, but trading for one would be an absolute no go for me as well.

The legal tampering period started on Monday. The league season starts at 4pm eastern today. Highly unlikely that things are going to heat up just because teams and players can sign on the dotted line - they've been negotiating for days.

4 PM EST

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are bringing QB Chad Henne back. One-year deal for $2 million, source says. It’ll be his fifth season as Patrick Mahomes’ backup.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1504133660508831752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Free Agency Frenzy: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> don&#39;t have a lot of cap space... but could change with a phone call or two. They are deep in talks on a contract extension for WR Tyreek Hill that will get him more than $20M per year and give KC some breathing room. <a href="https://t.co/3g6Qy9TSXw">pic.twitter.com/3g6Qy9TSXw</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1504137002077278220?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Short term one too 3 years he said.

Get it done so we can get on with free agency!

Why 3 years? Tyreek needs to be a Chief for life

He’s currently in the Maldives. Drew rose haha is his agent. He’s gonna want every last penny

Get this deal done Tyreek and the Chiefs can get you some help in the form of a better W2 to blast open those two deep safety defenses.

Carl Nassib being released by LV... cue all the gay jokes now...


I really wouldn't mind bringing in two less expensive options like him and Matt Ionnidis to round out the front. Then spend an early pick on an edge as well. Round out the FA class by spending on WR #2 and CB.

So it’s not close but Clay posts that it’s done.

Clay when is the Metcalf signing official?

JFC man drop that crap clay knows nothing.