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Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 02:13 PM

The one guy I’d try and pry from Seattle would be Bobby Wagner.

O.city 03-07-2018 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13454806)
The one guy I’d try and pry from Seattle would be Bobby Wagner.

Yeah, that's not likely. But yes.

He's 27 and under a good contract. **** yeah I'd trade for him.

Bewbies 03-07-2018 02:19 PM

I'd love to have Sherman here. Pretty sure that would never happen though. He's good.

O.city 03-07-2018 02:22 PM

Theres getting ready to be a butt **** load of trades go down I think.

RunKC 03-07-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13454826)
Theres getting ready to be a butt **** load of trades go down I think.

I’m excited for it bc that’s one thing the NBA did better than the NFL. Glad they are doing it more in the NFL

Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13454807)
Yeah, that's not likely. But yes.

He's 27 and under a good contract. **** yeah I'd trade for him.

KC is going youth on defense. I don’t want to deviate from that plan, but I’d definitely try and get him.

DaneMcCloud 03-07-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13454762)
But the CHiefs are gonna be paying their starting QB peanuts, so it's time to start making some moves around him while he's cheap.

Cause if he hits it like CP think he will, he's gonna be expensive.

That's certainly not a bad scenario.

Wentz is cheap, as is Goff, and both teams are continuing to add pieces.

The Chiefs are at the Ground Floor, IMO.

It would be a waste of cap space, resources and developmental time to plug in guys that would be 29, 30, 31, etc. in 2020.

Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 02:27 PM

For better or worse, one executive tells me there are about to be an onslaught of trades, including ones with marquee players. Bennett just the beginning. Buckle up!

Jordan Schultz of Yahoo Sports tweeted

RunKC 03-07-2018 02:27 PM

The Chiefs just need to see guys they like a talk about trading next years LA 2nd. If you can get a young talented player, just do it now.

O.city 03-07-2018 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13454833)
That's certainly not a bad scenario.

Wentz is cheap, as is Goff, and both teams are continuing to add pieces.

The Chiefs are at the Ground Floor, IMO.

It would be a waste of cap space, resources and developmental time to plug in guys that would be 29, 30, 31, etc. in 2020.

They'd be in their prime right when the Chiefs are looking to push though. It's a better scenario to get those guys in now, so they can be acclimated and ready to roll in 2019 forward, if that's the plan.

The Chiefs are at the ground floor, but if they choose to wait til next year, they're lagging.

Year 3 of the rookie QB money is when you wanna be right in the middle of the window. Not just getting started.

O.city 03-07-2018 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13454832)
KC is going youth on defense. I don’t want to deviate from that plan, but I’d definitely try and get him.

He's only 27 though. He'll be good for a while.

Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13454840)
He's only 27 though. He'll be good for a while.

I agree that’s why I brought him up. I was thinking he was 28.

BleedingRed 03-07-2018 02:30 PM

I like Richard Sherman, and unlike Peterson he can tackle. HOWEVER, I don't know how he would fit in.

We'll see.....

RunKC 03-07-2018 02:31 PM

Shit man it really makes me wonder if we see another marquee player traded.

At this point Mahomes, Hunt, Kelce, Berry, Fuller, Ragland, Jones and Hill might be the only guys off limits.

O.city 03-07-2018 02:33 PM

I can't imagine them trading Houston at this point

BlackOp 03-07-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13454843)
I like Richard Sherman, and unlike Peterson he can tackle. HOWEVER, I don't know how he would fit in.

We'll see.....

An outspoken, articulate black CB in the mid-west...I'm sure the fans will love him. :shake: Seattle and KC might as well be in different countries...culturally speaking.

Mecca 03-07-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13454848)
An outspoken, articulate black CB in the mid-west...I'm sure the fans will love him. :shake: Seattle and KC might as well be in different countries...culturally speaking.

Richard Sherman is much more articulate and educated than Peters though, I doubt it would come off the same.

If he'd come cheap I'd certainly look at it, he's a guy I think at some point will make a pro bowl type transition to safety.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 02:56 PM

Alec Ogletree traded from Rams to Giants for two 2018 picks

Mecca 03-07-2018 02:58 PM

Apparently Wade Phillips doesn't like a lot of the guys he was given to start with.

The Franchise 03-07-2018 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13454884)
Alec Ogletree traded from Rams to Giants for two 2018 picks

Rams are giving everyone away apparently.

Mecca 03-07-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13454888)
Rams are giving everyone away apparently.

Well Quinn and Ogletree are much more suited to play in a 4-3 so maybe Wade just doesn't think they are system fits.

siberian khatru 03-07-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13454884)
Alec Ogletree traded from Rams to Giants for two 2018 picks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rams</a> are trading LB Alec Ogletree to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Giants?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Giants</a> for 2 draft picks, source said. He was offered to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, too, but they declined. <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a> on it first.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971490112541478912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 03:00 PM

Ogletree offered to KC but they declined

Mecca 03-07-2018 03:02 PM

Ogletree literally just signed a 4 year 42 million dollar extension in October talk about falling out of favor and that'd explain why the Chiefs declined since he's only 26.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 03:02 PM

Interesting..

The Franchise 03-07-2018 03:03 PM

So apparently Veach just wanted the draft picks.....

Mecca 03-07-2018 03:03 PM

Ogletree is slated to make 33 million dollars in the first 3 years of that deal.

I'd guess clearing money for an Aaron Donald deal.

UChieffyBugger 03-07-2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13454837)
The Chiefs just need to see guys they like a talk about trading next years LA 2nd. If you can get a young talented player, just do it now.

Have any names In mind?

The Franchise 03-07-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13454891)
Well Quinn and Ogletree are much more suited to play in a 4-3 so maybe Wade just doesn't think they are system fits.

Which is why we probably didn't want them either.

Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 03:13 PM

@MikeClayNFL If I'm reading this chart correctly, Alec Ogletree ranked 830th out of 856 defensive players graded by @PFF last year.

NIUhuskies 03-07-2018 03:25 PM

2018 Free Agents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13454817)
I'd love to have Sherman here. Pretty sure that would never happen though. He's good.



He’s not a scheme fit for KC. We need press corners who thrive playing man coverage. Sherman is great, but he’s a zone corner. Watch him end up with the Chargers playing for Gus Bradley. That would not be ideal


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Mecca 03-07-2018 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIUhuskies (Post 13454962)
He’s not a scheme fit for KC. We need press corners who thrive playing man coverage. Sherman is great, but he’s a zone corner. Watch him end up with the Chargers playing for Gus Bradley. That would not be ideal


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He actually can play man, but I really think he'd make a badass free safety.

Amnorix 03-07-2018 03:28 PM

Patriots release Martellus Bennett. He was never sticking around at his cap number ($6.1 million). Because the Pats picked him up from the Packers, there is no dead money on the cap for him.

Unclear whether he intends to retire or play on. Patriots likely to be interested in bringing him back at a more reasonable number, depending on how the market plays out. In any event, add MartyB to the list of free agents.

O.city 03-07-2018 03:42 PM

I'd trade for Sherman. He can play corner then transition to FS.

jaa1025 03-07-2018 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13454848)
An outspoken, articulate black CB in the mid-west...I'm sure the fans will love him. :shake: Seattle and KC might as well be in different countries...culturally speaking.

Something that Peters isn't. Something that all players, regardless of color, should strive to be.

O.city 03-07-2018 03:45 PM

Would you trade next years 2nd from the Rams for Lavonte David?

Mother****erJones 03-07-2018 03:47 PM

I’m not all about wasting draft capital but using next years 2 could be interesting

Mecca 03-07-2018 03:50 PM

I probably wouldn't do that, you should be able to draft a good MLB.

Also I do think a vet or 2 that is still hungry with some skills that won't break the bank wouldn't be a bad idea.

Mecca 03-07-2018 03:53 PM

Darqueeze Dennard is a FA that wouldn't be a terrible move.

RunKC 03-07-2018 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13454900)
So apparently Veach just wanted the draft picks.....

Well Ogletree cost $11 million the next 3 years. Way too much for him.

O.city 03-07-2018 03:57 PM

I'd prefer if they were going to trade that pick, to trade it for a DL.

The Franchise 03-07-2018 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13455016)
I'd prefer if they were going to trade that pick, to trade it for a DL.

Or a CB....or a pass rusher.

O.city 03-07-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13455019)
Or a CB....or a pass rusher.

They've atleast got options at pass rusher, however shitty they may be.

Corner for sure.

Chargem 03-07-2018 04:55 PM

Wonder what contract Nigel Bradham will get

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 05:13 PM

Sounds like Talib was maybe going to be traded to the 49ers, but it likely won’t happen now because he wants to be released to hopefully go to the Patriots...

AssEaterChief 03-07-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13455135)
Sounds like Talib was maybe going to be traded to the 49ers, but it likely won’t happen now because he wants to be released to hopefully go to the Patriots...

I thought they had a falling out?

Titty Meat 03-07-2018 05:35 PM

I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

AssEaterChief 03-07-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455157)
I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

We're Chiefs fans… I think we are used to it by now

In58men 03-07-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455157)
I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

I’m use to it. We should all be use to it.

The good news is that we can’t be anymore disappointed since the trading of Peters. We’re already at rock bottom for the start of this offseason.

BryanBusby 03-07-2018 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455157)
I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

They might be active in trading some more, but yeah I don't see any big name FA's coming in.

They will go hard next year.

The Franchise 03-07-2018 05:54 PM

The NY Post's Paul Schwartz reports the Giants are not interested in re-signing free agent C Weston Richburg.
Richburg missed the final 12 games of 2017 with a concussion that landed him on injured reserve. He played center for the Giants the last three seasons but started 15 games at guard in 2014. Now healthy, he's undoubtedly considered one of the top offensive linemen available on the market.

booger 03-07-2018 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13455196)
The NY Post's Paul Schwartz reports the Giants are not interested in re-signing free agent C Weston Richburg.
Richburg missed the final 12 games of 2017 with a concussion that landed him on injured reserve. He played center for the Giants the last three seasons but started 15 games at guard in 2014. Now healthy, he's undoubtedly considered one of the top offensive linemen available on the market.

I’d like to see Fulton resigned and then shop Morse to a team like the NYG or Rams who’s C Sullivan is going to be a FA I believe. Maybe Indy or Seattle, not sure what their C situations are.

RunKC 03-07-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455157)
I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

FA sucks balls this year. I wouldn’t spend much money on these guys.

I think we’ll be making more trades

Chief Northman 03-07-2018 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13455255)
FA sucks balls this year. I wouldn’t spend much money on these guys.

I think we’ll be making more trades

Agreed.

I think we see Veach go big with signings next offseason.

I hope for one splash though....
Allen Robinson, come on down!

O.city 03-07-2018 06:59 PM

There’s some good free agents that aren’t gonna be thought of as the top of the list that could help though.

Free agency just isn’t the plac to get your studs for the most pwrt

Kiimo 03-07-2018 08:00 PM

Is it just me or is this year really cap-conscious? I feel like there is going to be a holdout again because players are getting chopped rather than paid. It's like all the GMs re-read Moneyball this offseason.

DaneMcCloud 03-07-2018 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455157)
I think you all are going to be very disappointed with the level of free agent the Chiefs to after.

Not me

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 09:45 PM

I don’t know how many signings there will be because I think all signs point to KC loading up the defense through the draft, but I actually do expect one or two ‘flashy’ signings.

If I absolutely had to predict one, I think Watkins might actually happen. But that obviously depends on if teams like SF are willing to fork over way more guaranteed money than he may be worth.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 10:03 PM

Just watch some of the plays this guy makes when he gets opportunities: https://youtu.be/Sd1BJGjqt70 (can’t embed right now)

You can’t tell me that the Mahomes and the Chiefs couldn’t really use a guy who is that dynamic. We have no proven capable receivers outside of Hill right now, and we haven’t even saw him play with Pat yet.

If I’m Veach, I’m saying to myself that we’re going to load the defense through the draft. We might sprinkle in a guard somewhere, and maybe sign a defender or two. But the best chance to really help Mahomes and the offense is to add a playmaker like Watkins. He can be dominant in 1v1 situations, and you know damn well that Mahomes is going to give his guys chances to make plays.

And if we’re being honest, an offensive skill grouping of Mahomes-Hunt-Kelce-Hill-Watkins would probably be the most talented unit in football.

RunKC 03-07-2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13455577)
I don’t know how many signings there will be because I think all signs point to KC loading up the defense through the draft, but I actually do expect one or two ‘flashy’ signings.

If I absolutely had to predict one, I think Watkins might actually happen. But that obviously depends on if teams like SF are willing to fork over way more guaranteed money than he may be worth.

I think this draft will look very similar to Seattle’s last year.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-07-2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13455619)
I think this draft will look very similar to Seattle’s last year.

Very much so. We might use 6 of those 8 picks on defense.

chiefscafan 03-07-2018 10:55 PM

I'm all for Watkins I like his talent and he would take this offense to another level

mcaj22 03-07-2018 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13455401)
Is it just me or is this year really cap-conscious? I feel like there is going to be a holdout again because players are getting chopped rather than paid. It's like all the GMs re-read Moneyball this offseason.

There are still dudes that are going to get a ton of money in FA. (Cousins, Trumaine Johnson, Kyle Fuller, Allen Robinson, Andrew Norwell, etc)

The only reason it sticks out is because marquee names of yesteryear are finally getting cut as their bodies have worn down and are severely overpaid for their current production.

This won't be like baseball where it's Eric Hosmer getting paid and everyone else is completely frozen out of the money.

UChieffyBugger 03-07-2018 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13455577)
I don’t know how many signings there will be because I think all signs point to KC loading up the defense through the draft, but I actually do expect one or two ‘flashy’ signings.

If I absolutely had to predict one, I think Watkins might actually happen. But that obviously depends on if teams like SF are willing to fork over way more guaranteed money than he may be worth.

Some folks seem to think Allen Robinson is the guy San Fran may go after and not Watkins.

Titty Meat 03-07-2018 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13455414)
Not me

Looks like the Rams offered the Chiefs some good players who would help them win now but Veach has declined due to big contracts. Why would he go out and sign a guy like Butler for example for big money? A guy like Albert Wilson is going to get 4-5 mil per yet people on here think we'll sign him for 2 mil. The NFL agent market salaries have inflated the past several seasons yet every year people are throwing around 2009 free agent prices for guys. Wishful thinking I guess.

Chargem 03-08-2018 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13455755)
Looks like the Rams offered the Chiefs some good players who would help them win now but Veach has declined due to big contracts. Why would he go out and sign a guy like Butler for example for big money? A guy like Albert Wilson is going to get 4-5 mil per yet people on here think we'll sign him for 2 mil. The NFL agent market salaries have inflated the past several seasons yet every year people are throwing around 2009 free agent prices for guys. Wishful thinking I guess.

I think he was saying he won't be disappointed because he wasn't expecting any big signings, rather than opposing your view of big signings.

Quesadilla Joe 03-08-2018 08:49 AM

From Breer:

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5. Slot receivers are tough to value. Aging slot receivers have a tough time getting paid. But my sense is that Danny Amendola’s going into a pretty decent market. I’d keep an eye on Kansas City, a team that can compete now and could use another security blanket for its new starter, and Amendola’s fellow ex-Texas Tech Red Raider, Patrick Mahomes.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/fr...-mmqb-notebook

O.city 03-08-2018 08:53 AM

Wouldn't be upset at that.

aturnis 03-08-2018 09:31 AM

Would have a really hard time rooting for the guy.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-08-2018 09:40 AM

Decent article that makes the case for signing a WR.

Two FA targets that make most sense for Chiefs: Robinson and Watkins
https://twitter.com/arrowheadpride/s...306552833?s=21

The Franchise 03-08-2018 09:44 AM

Amendola is 32. **** that. I’d rather sign Wilson to a new deal.

O.city 03-08-2018 09:47 AM

He's probably gonna be cheap.

After reading Breers article, I think the free agent market is gonna be cheaper than we thought.

The Franchise 03-08-2018 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13456064)
Decent article that makes the case for signing a WR.

Two FA targets that make most sense for Chiefs: Robinson and Watkins
https://twitter.com/arrowheadpride/s...306552833?s=21

I still don’t see a way we can afford either of them. Someone is going to give Robinson a bunch of money. Same could be said about Watkins.

I’d be interested to see what kind of market Paul Richardson has.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-08-2018 09:53 AM

I'd rather spend the money on defense. We've seen how much better Mahomes made the hideouts we had.

O.city 03-08-2018 09:55 AM

Scary, but I agree with PGM.

Spend on the D.

staylor26 03-08-2018 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456073)
He's probably gonna be cheap.

After reading Breers article, I think the free agent market is gonna be cheaper than we thought.

It makes sense considering how weak this years FA class is.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-08-2018 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13456084)
Scary, but I agree with PGM.

Spend on the D.

:)

BossChief 03-08-2018 10:01 AM

Gotta upgrade the pass rush and corners.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-08-2018 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13456083)
I'd rather spend the money on defense. We've seen how much better Mahomes made the hideouts we had.

We also saw Robinson struggle to be reliable consistently that day. Bottom line, if Hill goes down, we’re in trouble.

The defense can still be addressed at a spot or two but it largely should be addressed via the draft.

O.city 03-08-2018 10:18 AM

I say they sign Watkins


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