Mac Jones would probably wear #4 next year

I wanted Pederson.

Not McBugel.

All my teams are not run well.

You have my permission to shoot me.

Time to create a nickname change poll.

Let CP have some fun.

Derricka for Mac Jones trade? Both teams need to move on from their crappy QBs

Never too late to come over from the Dark side. ;)

Man, the AFC just fell to shit, didn't it?

I mean the damn Chargers, who spent most of the season tripping over their own feet, clinched a playoff spot with 2 weeks left in the season. And the Steelers can still play their way in when they were just dead in the water 5 weeks ago.

Meanwhile the Dolphins are doing their damndest to take themselves out of the mix. The Patriots are proud owners of the most inexplicable loss in a decade or more and seemingly control their own destiny.

Somehow we ended up where we were last year when all the last playoff spot did was provide some weak sister an extra game they have no business playing...

You guys here actually understand football.

Well, Andy Reid and the brain trust actually running the Chiefs do.

Oh, ok. Some of the posters here do as well.

Going to be some crap years in Raiderland. '23 draft looks like a poor QB draft. FA QBs to be had are terrible.

Hell, Stidham wasn't even the best backup QB the Raiders had in preseason. He just got the job because he was McD's guy.

49ers will roll. I'd be surprised if we score the rest of the year.

Look at this list of starting QBs this week lmao


colt mccoy
desmond ridder
sam darnold
baker mayfield
andy dalton
brock purdy
davis mills
nick foles
jarrett stidham
malik willis
teddy bridgewater

Yes.

Raiders brass is clown land.

Not coming to the Chiefs, but it is going to be rough in Raiderland for a long time. Probably until Mark Davis is forced to sell the team.

doesn't sound like they plan to. if McDaniels could he would already be waving two white flags. Pussy shit.

Hell if Miami could get away with it they would be playing Tua the rest of the season despite having three concussions on the year*. And here the Raiders leadership is worried about poor baby Carr getting hurt and having to pay him another year, despite it being SIX ****ING YEARS since he broke his leg. I get the reasoning, but the alternative of just rolling over and dying is pussy shit. Especially when the last two games are against some of the teams strongest historic rivals.

*not saying this would be the right move either.

Donks: Destroyed and reduced to ash.

Faid: Walls collapsed and foundations demolished.

Bolts: ???

FAX

Stidham was decent and developing when he was in New England. Was named their starter a few years ago then had an injury in preseason. He knows JMD system and how he operates. He might actually do well with the starters for LV.

IF Stidham plays decently against this 9ers defense it will be a good sign and this gives the Raiders coaching staff a preview for next year.

Davante Adams decision to tie his future to Carr looks… unwise.

But at least he’s getting paid.

wtf why is Carr being benched? Yeah he has struggled but for Stidham that is just dumb. Is McDaniels trying to get fired so he can go back to NE?

Because if he gets hurt, they owe him 40 million over the next 2 years.

Didn't you see this


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the Raiders sit Derek Carr Sunday, it will be the 4th game he misses in 9 seasons and the 1st not due to injury. <br>His salary of $33 million next year and $7.5 million in 2024 become guaranteed if he gets hurt, and front office met last 2 nights to decide on course of action.</p>&mdash; Vic Tafur (@VicTafur) <a href="https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1608144933520826368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



The plan is to release him and they're not going to let Bosa ruin that plan

lmao they ****ing screwed him

If you're gonna trade him, it's the smart thing. You wanna lose these next two games anyway.

they are going to start next season 0-4 and the dudes in gorilla masks are going to start picketing mcdaniels house

Josh is a ****ing moron. Carr is not playing so bad he deserves this. Raiders were stupid to hire Josh and are stuck with him and his stupidity. Why bench Carr now?

Raiders fans should fly a banner, but I'm not sure they have the grammar.

Oh I guess that makes some sense since they are pretty much out of the playoff race.

Are any of you toolsheds actually reading this thread

So I somehow managed to get to my fantasy championship despite Davante Adams doing absolutely nothing last week, but instead of a bounceback over-correction from Carr I'm gonna get Stidham? This sucks.

It would say:


"We still ****ing suck"

This is a cap related move. 33mil for a QB is bad enough, but if they don't cut/trade him after this year, then he has the leverage in negotiating a new contract at the market rate (north of 33 mil). So while Derek is a decent NFL QB, they don't think he's 33+ mil good.

Probably more needs in LV than can be filled in the draft in this coming year so its looks like a roster reset.

Dipshit Raiders may try and trade Carr and Adams as a package deal. Then waste the picks on busts.

Dumb franchises do dumb things.

Like McBugel knows how to draft a QB. He drafted Tebow.

Is there actually a scenario where LV gets in the playoffs?

Um, lets not pretend Payton Manning or Joe Montana is being benched here. Carr is averaging 15-17 PPG isnt he? Carr wouldn't have done squat against the niners. He is ranked 31 at QBR and leads in INTs. I think some here cant get 2016 Carr out of their heads. Since the middle of last year, Carr has been mostly uninspiring and been carried by Jacobs when they do well. Even a mediocre QB this year could have won a handful of games and making the playoffs. Every loss minus one have been 1 score games where the offense has failed to score in entire halves. Carrs mechanics all year have gone to shit. His throws beyond 15 yards resemble punts or wounded ducks. Keeping him and paying him $30-$40 million next year would have been insanity.

Best for the Raiders to part ways, try to build a great defense while continuing to have a great running game and groom some QB while going with a bridge type QB for a year or 2.

THey aren't making the playoffs. Once you hit that point, you want to pile up losses

yes, but it's built on top of the world's ricketiest house of cards it's not even worth worrying about. Even before this news about Carr.

McBugel.

https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uplo...ing-gif-10.gif

Damn, Bugel as HC was a terrible year in Raider history. Maybe only surpassed by Shell II.

Going to be at least two more years of this crap. McBugel will get next year as a pass due to starting over at QB.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/284a0986...u1jau_400.gifv

Tebow has one more playoff win than Carr.

But yes, Tebow was a bad pick. Can you recall all the other picks that McBugel had? Several of which were on the 13 win teams and SB team maybe?


Fear not though, you can likely keep your screen name if the NFL turns into a flag football league as Carr is a great QB when wearing the red t-shirt ;)

Well, you'll be happy anyway. Enjoy watching Stidham as the Raiders QB for the next couple years.

Draft a new QB and let Stidham or (?) be a bridge QB. Some of the cap savings will help add to the defense. The Raiders do have weapons on offense that any QB would love to have.

Welcome to LV Tommy.......

Greg Olson got more out of the Raiders offense than McDaniels.

Think about that.

It’s amazing how Josh McDaniels ****ed them over. Derek Carr got this team in the playoffs without his HC for half the season last year. It’s not surprising that McDaniels comes in and does exactly what he did in Denver: set that franchise on fire

I'll hold my breath waiting for this to happen. We haven't had a good defense in 20 years, let alone one resembling "great".

CARR benched ROFL

they better go all in and chase Aaron Rodgers next offseason

Poor franchises have poor ways.

You bring in that snake oil salesman and you deserve every bit of suffering.

Patriot way trash

we better not be chasing Tommy or Fraudgers, that's more Denver loser shit.

McDaniels has blown more leads than Bugel did.

I wanted Pederson.

:#

I never thought Carr was great, but he is definitely the lesser of two evils between him and McDummy. I don’t what they were thinking when they hired him.

I think they go after Lamarr Jackson first.

The Raiders were 12th in PPG. Not your bogus number.

But Carr is the problem not the lousy defense that can't get a turnover to save its soul.

I'd hate to bet against Brady in LV next year. Though unless the OL gets fixed, he wouldn't come. Same with Rodgers.

They weren't.

Mark has no plan. Gruden was his plan. Then the emails were released.

At this point, nothing good will happen until he moves onto the great beyond.

Will Baltimore move on from Lamarr?

Brady is cooked.

28th in points. Average 17 ppg. But jdubya wants him. ROFL

He's busted and the Ravens are actually smart about personnel moves, so probably.

He will be a good backup to finish blowout games for Mahomes next season.

Bucs (Brady will leave) and Jets should call about Carr due to their draft position. He seems to fit the Colts best to me but they have a top 5 pick and I can’t see them not picking a QB (finally)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...9/IMG_1150.png

ROFLMAO

Dudes a turnover machine to boot.

You seem like a good guy, but I have to warn you that I will neg rep you into oblivion if you change your username to Brady12MVP. :evil:

I'm a man of principles, even if they are based in pure hatred, so I didn't want Tommy Tuck Rule on the team I root for two or three years ago whenever the **** that was. Even if it meant he got us a Super Bowl. I sure as shit don't want him now.

I'd definitely be more forgiving if Aaron came here, but at the same time I'd rather not have other teams recyclables.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This just might have been Derek Carr&#39;s final pass as a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> QB <a href="https://t.co/2Jt9pBrrP8">https://t.co/2Jt9pBrrP8</a></p>&mdash; Josh Dubow (@JoshDubowAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshDubowAP/status/1608183167126765569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like most of the Raider fans here.

If they try to sign Brady it will test our friendships.

Carr will likely wind up in New York if Rodgers doesn't go there.

Wouldn't make any sense.

Carr4MVP is a pun name. #4 and #4 as in for MVP.

12 simply doesn't work.

And I hate Brady.

this was definitely a reason to move on from Carr(at the end of the season), have seen him do this way too many times at the end of the game.

but on the other hand he was only in this position because the team that had been unable to get anything resembling a touch down all game managed to get one with under a minute left in the game. That's not on Carr, that's on the snake in the upside down visor.

Nah, we can hate him together.

Not their fault Dawg

Now it makes sense. You are Josh Dubow. LMAO

So was Jacobs.

the more unforgiving Carrception to ice the game for me was the one at the end of the Chiefs game. ****er.

Judging by this thread there are still grown men who believe in Derek Carr LMAO

I don’t see that at all.

Carr has an ironclad no-trade clause, increasing the likelihood that they will just release him.

I think all this Brady to the Raiders is ridiculous.

Saints with Payton back coaching

Carr could waive the no-trade clause as long it went somewhere he wants to play.

I'd guess Shanahan in SF could get some really good things out of Carr.

Agree. Brady won't go to a division that is tough.

best solution is for Brady to just die so we don't have to speculate on where he plays next

A murder/suicide between him and Gronk would be the best.

Normally a defense that only gives up 13 is considered strong.

Absolutely love Dubows ability to make Carrdashians heads spin. Epic stuff lol