Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12520699)

I'm saying niner fan's don't miss him for a reason.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12521140)

They hate winning?

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12521140)

They hate winning?

Bob Dole is saying they are just as stupid as the ones here clamoring for Foles.

Clear enough now?

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12521141)

yah that 38-36-1 record he brought SF during his 7 years is all they ever talk about not the 5 superbowl rings they somehow managed to win without him..and not Joe montana,steve young... Jerry Rice....Roger Craig ...Ronnie Lott

no ..its ALEX smith and his .500 record over 7 years with 1 playoff win they are clamoring for...HAHAHAHAHAHA


holy shit people are stupid

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12521161)

Keep living in the past, little slugger.

How about you use some common sense and compare KC and SF since Smith left SF? You know, since that was the point of this moronic conversation.

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12521166)

but then there is dallas

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12521171)

I know the CP braintrust is allergic to fatties, but they sure make mediocre look good.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12521173)

I'll forever disagree with Andy's view on the O line.

You give me the big fatty every day, with lead in his ass and a wide frame, over these slender athletic types.

I'll take a guy with the build of an Albert over a guy with the build of a Fisher 7 days a week and twice on Sunday...

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12521176)

I wasn't even talking about the preference for big or athletic o-linemen.

I was talking about 'our' boredom with bringing in linemen when there are cool QBs and WRs to throw money at.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12520549)

If most Niners fans still think Kaep was the right move, they're ****ing idiots that deserve what they have

He has regressed badly every single year since being named the starter and ultimately led them to the shitshow all of those fans are now leading actors in

Smith is anything but sexy, yet he is Football God ruling the world from his ethereal perch in the cosmos, compared to Kaep

Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12521192)

Im a 49er fan and it was the right move because 49ers weren't winning a SB with Alex. 2011 was his best chance, 2012 and 2013 playoffs weren't ideal situations for him.

In 2012 the offense was putting up more ppg and yards with CK, but the defense was non existent after Justin and Aldon Smith injuries. No defense = no SB for Alex.

2013 playoffs the RBs struggled. Gore only had like 10 yds aagainst the Seahawks. Alex's usual 100 yd performance against them wasn't going to get the job done that time. No run game = no SB for Alex.

Since we never would of won with Alex, it absolutely was the right move. Yea CK sucks now, but it doesn't even matter anymore, we need to start allover, it's as close to a talentless team as it gets. There's just no reason to want or have Alex. His style would result in 5 wins max without talent to carry him.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12521194)

Stop making this more complicated than it needs to be.

You keep the QB who is better, Alex is clearly the better QB. You guys made the wrong decision which is one of the reasons Harbaugh got fired. Only reason Kap was successful early in his career is because he was better at running that gimmick offense that defenses hadn't figured out.

As soon as defenses figured out that offense, Kap sucked. Aaron Rodgers even politely alluded to this and Richard Sherman constantly said this. Both were right.

You guys absolutely could have won the SB with Alex. It wasn't his fault Kyle Williams muffed the punt twice in one playoff game.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12521140)

They hate winning?

Bob Dole is saying they are just as stupid as the ones here clamoring for Foles.

Clear enough now?

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12520663)

I don't think a guy with 35 starts to his name has reached his peak.

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12520709)

Derek Carr and his 500 yards, 4 TD and AFC West lead is laughing at your stupid post.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12520877)

DILLIGAF?


YOU, called ME . . . a Smither. Shit don't fly.

I strongly think Smith is the right man for the position, and deserving of respect as the man in that position, . . . AS A CHIEFS FAN.

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12521225)

Smither. :D

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12521226)

At least Baby Lee still supports the team, regardless of the QB, Phil. You're just a hater "that doesn't care", but yet, can't stay away. ROFL

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12521227)

JFC, are you on "Smith Defense Patrol" 24/ ****ing 7 a day?

Get a goddamned life, already.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12521194)

Stop making this more complicated than it needs to be.

You keep the QB who is better, Alex is clearly the better QB. You guys made the wrong decision which is one of the reasons Harbaugh got fired. Only reason Kap was successful early in his career is because he was better at running that gimmick offense that defenses hadn't figured out.

As soon as defenses figured out that offense, Kap sucked. Aaron Rodgers even politely alluded to this and Richard Sherman constantly said this. Both were right.

You guys absolutely could have won the SB with Alex. It wasn't his fault Kyle Williams muffed the punt twice in one playoff game.

Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12521233)

The thing is he was better with that team. More points and yards. 30+ ppg in the playoffs with the defense playing horribly. If we had that offense in 2011 we don't need to worry about KW.

Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12521233)

I think you're in a similar situation now. You have a lot of talent that Alex is holding back, and you have a QB that could use it much better. Yes he sucked on a bad rams team, but you have so many weapons Foles could flourish, like CK did.

Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 12521233)

To me it's a no brainer you see what Foles can do , because the chances of winning it all with Smith are so slim, there's just no point in banging your head against that door anymore. Pretty much how most 49er fans felt when we finally got rid of him.

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12519646)

If the Chiefs throw Smith back out there in harm's way...I'll be looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12521264)

This post is full of flaws, and for a number of reasons, John.



You are reflecting back to a time when CK was yet to be fully figured out and exposed for what he was. If CK had that 2011 team, it would have been a disaster. He didn't know what the hell he was doing, and half the team didn't either, in that yr 1 scheme being installed. Kaep survived primarily due to his backyard balling ability that NFL defenses made effective efforts in snuffing out now.



Foles could be good here, sure, but for altogether different reasons. Foles doesn't offer the threat to run or scramble around sacks that CK did. They are very different QBs. You talk about "so many weapons could flourish", but with Smith, you KNOW the ball will be spread around to all the weapons. Andy Reid's play designs also have a lot of say in who will get the ball.

Foles could just end up being a blind deep chucker with a half-dozen game-changing ****ups. He might hit on more of the big shots than Smith, but also throw games away on other attempts. With Houston's return, and the defense tightening up, is that really the risk Andy should be taking? What would his players say? Sets a shitty example.



Again, not the time to be experimenting, if your regular QB is healthy. This same QB with an outstanding, 3rd best win % in the league for 4 years. 16-3 record in the last 19 games?

Winning it all is slim with Smith? Sure... if you conveniently ignore the remarkable injury list of key Chiefs players that piled up in those big games.

Foles has a good arm, and a willingness to go deep. That is appealing.. and even Alex was beginning to show confidence in his targets on deep routes. Foles, I like.. but it's not worth taking the risk on, unless Smith proves unhealthy or ineffective.

So far, Smith has been both durable and effective for the Chiefs. Now, they just need to get and keep their key players healthy.


... and I have to ask, why are you even here? A 49ers fan that registers to a Chiefs site to talk about a player you are happy to be rid of? Man, you must have one hell of an investment in this.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12521353)

5 years later 9er fans taking their battles to a Chiefs message boaed.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12521353)

5 years later 9er fans taking their battles to a Chiefs message boaed.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12521353)

5 years later 9er fans taking their battles to a Chiefs message boaed.

Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 12520612)

Not necessarily true...

http://25stanley.com/wp-content/uplo...4/01/Avery.gif

Edit: Didn't see it addressed. Ignore.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12521466)

The difference here is:

Alex Smith has stepped up in the pocket and made a good pass a handful of times in his Chiefs career.

Foles got limited opportunities in 1 game and already has 1 in the books.


I know we are stuck with Alex Smith, so I'd LOVE to see him play like a good QB like he miraged in that Colts playoff game, but most of the time he just plays like a boring wuss.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12521488)

Actually Foles did not make a good deep pass. It was underthrown, Hill had to slow down and because of that the defender was able to catch up to him. Luckily Hill had his defender beat so bad he was able to adjust and put his body where only he could catch it.

If someone could put a gif up of this play it'd be great and be a reality check for the Foles-lovers who are acting like he is the second coming of Tom Brady.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 12520582)

Honest question, professional male secretary.


Do you think that most DCs are the ones that primarily focus on run/pass games (stunts) on a weekly basis?

Or do you think that emphasis might fall to say, the position group coach that has more interaction in those areas?

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12521556)

Foles did throw more than one deep pass Sunday.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12521997)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Alex Smith first hit, he slid very late, but helmet-to-helmet could&#39;ve been called. Also, and this sucks, but Tyreek Hill was open. <a href="https://t.co/OSG4gWaBcq">pic.twitter.com/OSG4gWaBcq</a></p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/793547227683622914">November 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12521997)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Alex Smith first hit, he slid very late, but helmet-to-helmet could&#39;ve been called. Also, and this sucks, but Tyreek Hill was open. <a href="https://t.co/OSG4gWaBcq">pic.twitter.com/OSG4gWaBcq</a></p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/793547227683622914">November 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12522004)

See, this is the kind of shit I am talking about. An instinctive QB would have hit Hill for a nice gain. Instead, this mofo gets himself hurt. I am tired of his scary ass bullshit. If we want to make teams fear and respect us, we need real QB play.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12522005)

Anybody here thinks Hill DOESN'T score on that?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12522011)

Option 1: Hit a wide open Hill standing 17 yards directly in front of him.

Option 2: Throw the ball away.

Option 3. Run, slide ridiculously late, get egg scrambled.


And this guy is supposedly one of the smartest QB's in the league?

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12522008)

I am not even talking about stats, just make a play when it is there in front of your ****ing face instead of being a bitch.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12522011)

Option 1: Hit a wide open Hill standing 17 yards directly in front of him.

Option 2: Throw the ball away.

Option 3. Run, slide ridiculously late, get egg scrambled.


And this guy is supposedly one of the smartest QB's in the league?

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12522036)

And options 2 and 3 (sans injury aspect) are 100% defensible because to choose option 1 is just "fantasy team jerk off material".

Because **** having a QB capable of capitalizing on big plays, let's just rely on a running game and turnovers to keep the score close.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12522017)

People respect our defense and probably our weapons but not our QB. You can say all of the nice things you want about Smiff but he leaves a lot of points on the field EVERY SINGLE WEEK. I'm fed up. Foles comes in without a leash and lights it up. Colts had no answer for anything we wanted to do after that. That is what you are SUPPOSED to do to the colts.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12522074)

Q'ing myself here but we know Smith's ceiling and his floor. We don't know Foles' ceiling but have a pretty good idea that Foles' floor is much lower than Smith's.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 12522085)

Yes, it is time to start Foles over Smiff. He doesn't even run any more.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522088)

so how do you feel about Smith starting over Foles?

we are all dying to know...

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12522093)

It will be the best day ever when we have a offensive meltdown sandy and you and the other Alex ballwasher will still be tossing your same old bull crap excuses with foles on the roster

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522088)

so how do you feel about Smith starting over Foles?

we are all dying to know...

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522127)

There really is no way that this ends poorly for me.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12522074)

I just love how it's a "Durrrr fantasy football ruining the game" narrative around here.

No. It matters *very* little if your starting QB puts up 210 1/0 TDs to INTs or 3/2 ratio and 305 if you ultimately win. What *does* matter when those yards are earned and points put on the board. Nobody rational would be bitching Smith got 55 of those yards and the TD on the final offensive possession of the game to either take the lead or to salt away a game.

Problem is that outside of maybe five total games in a decade long career Smith has proven incapable of doing just that. Prior to the head injury Smith was looking like he had the potential to actually come up big when the moment calls for it, which is what most rational fans who have been Smith skeptics are really asking for. Issue being they've been against awful defenses.

Foles very well might be totally incapable of putting points on the board when it matters and inept against an average or better defense. But he doesn't have the track record to exactly prove that point. Smith, on the other hand, has a track record of being foiled in critical situations or against average to good defenses.

Q'ing myself here but we know Smith's ceiling and his floor. We don't know Foles' ceiling but have a pretty good idea that Foles' floor is much lower than Smith's.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522127)

There really is no way that this ends poorly for me.

I like Foles, as well as Smith. If Foles really is better, then bring it on.

I respect Smith enough that I'd want him to retire before he gets killed. Dude has too many gigabytes to risk, and will do so much more in life after football.

If Foles comes in and fails horribly, I can at least laugh at some of you.

If Foles comes in and is great, you can laugh at me, but I'll be smiling over winning.. so go on ahead.

If Foles doesn't come in at all, then I will go back to watching Smith win... and then likely wave g'bye to Foles, as they decline to pick up his expensive QB2 option for next yr.


I'm good. :)

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522127)

There really is no way that this ends poorly for me.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12521353)

5 years later 9er fans taking their battles to a Chiefs message boaed.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522286)

Its ****ing pathetic...What is it about these guys and their crush on ass11?

Alex Smith's career would be over if he were a niner this season, in all probability.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522286)

Its ****ing pathetic...What is it about these guys and their crush on ass11?

Alex Smith's career would be over if he were a niner this season, in all probability.

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12522297)

However, there are a couple-few Alexsexual fans here who I literally do think primarily like him because they think he's cute or something.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12522307)

still crying?


shocking.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12522307)

still crying?


shocking.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522274)

I am and have been pretty hard on you and I hope I am wrong....but theres no way it ends poorly for you because you simply are going to walk away when your boy leaves. Youre not really a fan of the team so much as you are one player on it.

Not trying to be a dick or anything but just stating the obvious...Out of all the niner dumbasses here youre my favorite....but I dont get the idea of being a fan so much of one player you galabant around to ehatever team they go to....especially if ASS11 is that player...

But anyway, you have nothing to lose here..I agree.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522324)

Whatever you say, man. I have gone through this so many times, and apparently, it doesn't get through. So I will only now say, "see ya in 1-6 years from now, as new QB _________ is the regular starter under center for KC. I'll be right here.

:thumb:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12522322)

Crying in the chapel, the tears I shed aren't tears of joy.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12522324)

Whatever you say, man. I have gone through this so many times, and apparently, it doesn't get through. So I will only now say, "see ya in 1-6 years from now, as new QB _________ is the regular starter under center for KC. I'll be right here.

:thumb:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12522347)

Did your enthusiasm for the Chiefs dip when Foles started playing?

Be honest.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522367)

then ill see u then and apologize profusely for being wrong about you

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12522347)

Did your enthusiasm for the Chiefs dip when Foles started playing?

Be honest.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12522377)

Not me, I support whoever is playing.

Then again, I'm a fan of the TEAM.


Players come and go.

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12522419)

How did you feel about Matt Cassel in 2012?

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12522565)

I think my favorite one so far is, "well, the Colts just couldn't game plan for Foles".

Um, no, moron.

The Colts couldn't "game plan" for the Chiefs offense when it was functioning like a ****ing offense is supposed to.

Or did that slip your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12522565)

I think my favorite one so far is, "well, the Colts just couldn't game plan for Foles".

Um, no, moron.

The Colts couldn't "game plan" for the Chiefs offense when it was functioning like a ****ing offense is supposed to.

Or did that slip your thoughts?

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12522571)

And no one brings up the fact that Foles hasn't taken a snap in 2 months or hasn't played in a regular season game in almost a year and he still looked better than that ****tard Smith.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12522571)

And no one brings up the fact that Foles hasn't taken a snap in 2 months or hasn't played in a regular season game in almost a year and he still looked better than that ****tard Smith.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12522626)

The best pass of the day yesterday was Smith's throw to Maclin. Yes Foles had those deep throws but the one to Hill was so far behind that Hill literally had to stop and jump for it instead of catching it and using his world class speed and agility to maybe score a touchdown. The one to Conley was behind him also causing him to stop and stumble before falling or else he too would still be running.

Which throw in the whole game yesterday can you say is a great throw from Foles?
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