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TLO 01-24-2016 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12048231)
If rumors are true Strowman and Lesnar at Mania.

I could live with that.

DaNewGuy 01-24-2016 09:42 PM

Who were the other surprise entrants besides AJ?

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12048238)
Who were the other surprise entrants besides AJ?

Zayn.

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 09:45 PM

Oh God. Its Reigns or HHH.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:47 PM

So the Wyatt family destroys the regular roster, Lesnar comes out, eliminates all three Wyatts once. Fights them off in a 3-on-1 for a second time, and then gets eliminated by a second 4-on-1 attack.

It sets up Bray vs. Brock, but it makes the rest of the your roster look like bitches.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:50 PM

Reigns is back in, destroying the entire LON. Ziggler botched a skin-the-cat, and should be eliminated, but is still int he match.

29 was Sheamus.

The crowd, which was hot all night, is really starting to shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:50 PM

Of course, 30 is HHH.

:facepalm:

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 09:50 PM

Goddamn WWE...

DaNewGuy 01-24-2016 09:51 PM

Eh now I'm not as
Disappointed my stream crapped out

TLO 01-24-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12048248)
Oh God. Its Reigns or HHH.

I'm holding out hope that it's Wyatt. But there's just no way... :(

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:54 PM

HHH eliminated Ziggler.

Wyatt, Reigns, Ambrose, Jericho, HHH left.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:55 PM

HHH eliminates Wyatt.

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/.../1000/flags/LL

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 09:56 PM

Can't wait for this crowd to shit on the winner.

TLO 01-24-2016 09:57 PM

TURN ON REIGNS, AMBROSE... SAVE THIS

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:57 PM

HHH eliminates Reigns

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/.../1000/flags/LL

DaNewGuy 01-24-2016 09:58 PM

Facepalm

TLO 01-24-2016 09:58 PM

So I guess HHH wins.

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 09:59 PM

LMAO so predictable.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 09:59 PM

HHH eliminates Ambrose. HHH is the Champion again.

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/.../1000/flags/LL

DaNewGuy 01-24-2016 09:59 PM

How did the crowd react to
That lol

TLO 01-24-2016 10:00 PM

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/.../1000/flags/LL

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/.../1000/flags/LL

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 10:00 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...14/WQCuzjv.png

What a ****ing joke.

Account---Cancel Network.

DaNewGuy 01-24-2016 10:02 PM

One of my favorite gifs of all time

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12048272)
How did the crowd react to
That lol

Not nearly as bad as I'd have thought.

TLO 01-24-2016 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12048274)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...14/WQCuzjv.png

What a ****ing joke.

Account---Cancel Network.

Now, now. Let's not say things we don't actually mean.

Al Bundy 01-24-2016 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12048278)
Not nearly as bad as I'd have thought.

They just wanted Reigns outta there.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 12048280)
Now, now. Let's not say things we don't actually mean.

Oh, it's done.

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 10:08 PM

Switch out HHH for Bryan and this would've been the best Rumble I can remember.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 10:11 PM

HHH is like my own case of wrestling herpes. Whether it's 2002, 2009, 2011, or 2016, he always manages to pop up at the least opportune time.

ragedogg69 01-24-2016 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12048249)
So the Wyatt family destroys the regular roster, Lesnar comes out, eliminates all three Wyatts once. Fights them off in a 3-on-1 for a second time, and then gets eliminated by a second 4-on-1 attack.

It sets up Bray vs. Brock, but it makes the rest of the your roster look like bitches.

Yep, I saw them putting over the Wyatts so much and I was like "Brock is going to kill them." sure enough.

Demonpenz 01-24-2016 10:12 PM

I really don't like HHH he is boring.

mcaj22 01-24-2016 10:14 PM

I literally only watched for AJ Styles and as soon as he entered I marked out, as soon as he was eliminated I turned it off as I know WWE's predictable crap.

No reason to watch regularly since Punk left.

ragedogg69 01-24-2016 10:15 PM

that rumble started out so wonderfully. as soon as reigns was pulled out of the ring, the crowd knew what was going down and it let the air out of the arena. I nailed my prediction 100%, but that was the rumors since TLC.

good to see Zayn and KO pick up their feud. I would have booked it so KO got a title shot at backlash.

that womans match was great until the horseshit ending. Looks like a triple threat at mania.

really only the US title match sucked. so many botches.

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 10:15 PM

If only HHH would stay the **** off TV except for his NXT promos. He's brought so much talent into WWE but shit like this reminds me of exactly how much of an egomaniac he is.

mcaj22 01-24-2016 10:19 PM

most of the young talent will get buried by the 50 year old part timers at WM anyway

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-24-2016 10:21 PM

At least it saved me time and money. My trial was up on Thursday.

ragedogg69 01-24-2016 10:22 PM

https://i.imgur.com/n2MKAe5.jpg

Sassy Squatch 01-24-2016 10:37 PM

https://youtu.be/n8FrpWIWj9o

Goddamn that place popped hard.

BryanBusby 01-24-2016 10:52 PM

Roman Reigns is terrible and shouldn't have the title, but holy christ not HHH. It wasn't even a surprise.

They need to build some credible heels in the Main Event scene, and giving the title to a guy in his late 40's doesn't do it. This would had been a great opportunity to skyrocket Kevin Owens. (Sure Bray Wyatt too, but they are forever job squad)

mcaj22 01-24-2016 11:01 PM

how about Ric Flair kissing that diva with orange hair than wooing after.

TLO 01-24-2016 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12048367)
how about Ric Flair kissing that diva with orange hair than wooing after.

I'd lick her ASS.

mcaj22 01-24-2016 11:54 PM

bahahahahahha

http://i.imgur.com/EGJjcAK.png

TLO 01-25-2016 12:52 AM

The more I reflect on it, the more I actually enjoyed this show. Sure HHH winning was predictable, but we also got a lot of good content and teasers for things to come.

Zayn vs Owens - Could happen?
Styles vs Owens - Yes please. "Welcome to WWE"
Bray vs Brock - Likely another Wyatt loss, :( still a cool concept though
Banks vs Flair - Hopefully Becky is still in the mix too.
Ambrose still has the IC title - who's next to challenge for it?
Reigns vs HHH - don't have a ton of interest here, but it'll be interesting to see how they handle the build for it.

I'm looking forward to RAW tonight.

CoMoChief 01-25-2016 12:54 AM

God....enough w/ HHH.

Note to HHH: No matter how many titles you win, how many main event matches you book yourself into, how many new or up and coming stars you put yourself over...You're never gonna be a Rock Austin Hogan or 'Taker. Those guys are immortal legends.

This dude is now the (de facto) head of the company and is still jealous over the immortal stardom those two (Rock/Austin) had 15 yrs ago during wrestling's best era and how he wasn't pushed over until Austin left WWE in 2002, b/c they needed to find a new rival for the Rock and HHH was just coming back from injury.

Now HHH is just being a dick trying to make up for lost time redgardless of what the story line says is these days. I wonder when he'll induct himself into the WWE HOF? Not saying he doesn't deserve, just kind of surprised he hasn't done so already.

TLO 01-25-2016 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12048475)
God enough w/ HHH.

Note to HHH: No matter how many titles you win, how many main event matches you book yourself into, how many new or up and coming stars you put yourself over...You're never gonna be a Rock Austin Hogan or 'Taker. Those guys are immortal legends.

This dude is now the (de facto) head of the company and is still jealous over the immortal stardom those two (Rock/Austin) had 15 yrs ago during wrestling's best era and how he wasn't pushed over until Austin left WWE in 2002, b/c they needed to find a new rival for the Rock and HHH was just coming back from injury.

Now HHH is just being a dick trying to make up for lost time redgardless of what the story line says is these days.

As far as the story goes - I think putting the title on HHH was a fine move. He's going to put Reigns over for good as the face that runs the place at Wrestlemania, I'd imagine.

mcaj22 01-25-2016 01:25 AM

I hope SuperCena comes back, inserts himself into the main event and ruins Romans push

chiefscafan 01-25-2016 04:30 AM

What an ego manic triple H is has to put himself over everyone. Hopefully Seth Rollins comes back and kicks his ass.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 04:49 AM

Apparently McMahon thought that AJ Styles wasn't going to get a reaction. That's the reason for not seeing the titantron while the crowd went apeshit when it was revealed. Everybody at the top of WWE seems just a bit reeruned/senile.

Jerm 01-25-2016 07:15 AM

Great to see HHH, a heel, booked completely like a monster babyface and just destroying everyone...God cause he needs the rub.

"Biggest Wrestlemania ever"...of course HHH is main eventing it...this company.

Can they stop with the Roman Reigns stuff too please...I mean enough is enough. The guy is passable in the ring, garbage on the mic, and has zero charisma...yet they keep forcing him down the throat of the fans and everyone else.

Now we get "Roman was screwed so he must chase his shot at glory and his big crowning night" for the 456th time...yay.

Mav 01-25-2016 08:43 AM

Look. I'm with you guys. But the reality is this. No Cena, no Rollins, no Randy Orton. They had to do this.

Captain Obvious 01-25-2016 12:17 PM

It's easy to gang up on HHH, but he isn't the one making the decisions for WWE. He's making the decisions for NXT and I don't hear anyone complaining about that. He's a name in a company that is hurting for names right now (through their own fault, sure).

Mav 01-25-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 12048938)
It's easy to gang up on HHH, but he isn't the one making the decisions for WWE. He's making the decisions for NXT and I don't hear anyone complaining about that. He's a name in a company that is hurting for names right now (through their own fault, sure).


Well yes and no. It's not their fault four of the biggest names including Daniel Bryan are hurt. They are gonna have Brock and Bray fight. Sting was supposed to fight taker and Rollins Reigns and Brock were originally going to fight at WM. There just isn't enough top tier talent.

Gonna have stroman big show and Owens Aj Styles. Gonna be interesting. Just the Main event is gonna suffer.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 12:42 PM

I can see Brock, Taker, Kane, and Big Show vs the Wyatts happening. Good ****ing God would that match be bad.

Mecca 01-25-2016 12:51 PM

Daniel Bryan has been cleared by every doctor on the planet but the WWE's doctor...maybe they just frankly don't want him back.

Like it or not they decided Roman Reigns is the future of their company same as way back when they decided that on Cena. So much so that Triple H is gonna do the job at Mania to try to get him over to stay.

Get use to Reigns just like Cena.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 12048998)
Daniel Bryan has been cleared by every doctor on the planet but the WWE's doctor...maybe they just frankly don't want him back.

Like it or not they decided Roman Reigns is the future of their company same as way back when they decided that on Cena. So much so that Triple H is gonna do the job at Mania to try to get him over to stay.

Get use to Reigns just like Cena.

WWE is terrified of Bryan and his crowd reactions. In their eyes he's the main reason the Royal Rumbles in 2014 and 2015 ended so badly. Horribly stupid way to look at it but it's Vince.

Mav 01-25-2016 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12049011)
WWE is terrified of Bryan and his crowd reactions. In their eyes he's the main reason the Royal Rumbles in 2014 and 2015 ended so badly. Horribly stupid way to look at it but it's Vince.


He's always been that way. He's in love with the look. Never mind that Bryan has more charisma and is better in the ring than anyone not named Seth Rollins right now. Vince is a victim of his own steroid riddled body.

Mecca 01-25-2016 03:02 PM

It's funny a lot of the guys they really hype as making it like Michaels, Hart, Austin etc would have never mainevented without extinuating circumstances.

Steroid trials, about to go out of business, anything like todays environment I doubt they'd have ever made it to the top.

Mav 01-25-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 12049222)
It's funny a lot of the guys they really hype as making it like Michaels, Hart, Austin etc would have never mainevented without extinuating circumstances.

Steroid trials, about to go out of business, anything like todays environment I doubt they'd have ever made it to the top.


That's kinda true. The only one who has had the chance to be himself, well two, c.m. Punk quit, and Bryan stays hurt.

mcaj22 01-25-2016 04:25 PM

Brock is going to bury the Wyatts and you are going to be back to to square one with the them when Bray got beat by the Undertaker than had to spend the entire summer of 2015 looking like a weak heel, and they had to spend the entire fall building them back up as something competent, only to bury them at WM... again lol.

TLO 01-25-2016 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12049386)
Brock is going to bury the Wyatts and you are going to be back to to square one with the them when Bray got beat by the Undertaker than had to spend the entire summer of 2015 looking like a weak heel, and they had to spend the entire fall building them back up as something competent, only to bury them at WM... again lol.

The circle of life.

New World Order 01-25-2016 05:41 PM

Why is everyone so down on that Reigns guy?

He looks like a much better character than Cena or that guy who yells 'yes yes yes' all of the time.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12049523)
Why is everyone so down on that Reigns guy?

He looks like a much better character than Cena or that guy who yells 'yes yes yes' all of the time.

He symbolizes everything that is wrong with WWEs booking.

mcaj22 01-25-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12049523)
Why is everyone so down on that Reigns guy?

He looks like a much better character than Cena or that guy who yells 'yes yes yes' all of the time.

once he gets a microphone in his hand and he has to talk everything gets ruined.

TLO 01-25-2016 06:30 PM

Rumor is that The Rock might make an appearance tonight.

Yay

New World Order 01-25-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 12049614)
Rumor is that The Rock might make an appearance tonight.

Yay



Any news on Savio Vega?

TLO 01-25-2016 07:08 PM

Vince is so out of touch. LMAO

TLO 01-25-2016 07:10 PM

Do you think Stephanie does anal?

New World Order 01-25-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 12049658)
Do you think Stephanie does anal?


Bukake

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 07:45 PM

Flo Rida ****ing sucks at freestyle. Holy Christ, he managed to lose to Bo.

TLO 01-25-2016 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12049684)
Flo Rida ****ing sucks at freestyle. Holy Christ, he managed to lose to Bo.

That was hilariously awful. My God..

TLO 01-25-2016 07:53 PM

Pretty sure Bubba was the legal man there. Jesus Christ that was an abortion.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 07:56 PM

Halfway debating turning this off after this match. Absolute abortion of a RAW so far.

New World Order 01-25-2016 07:59 PM

Where is Chris Jericho in the pecking order?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2016 08:19 PM

There are two ways to get over: ability or booking. The WWE's problem is that they actively punish guys who get over on ability and make them subservient to the chosen ones who they want to get over. What they've never realized is that all of their best stars got over on ability, but rather than looking for that, Vince has always needed to satisfy his daddy issues.

Hogan was over due to his unique look, charisma, and Rocky III. He was already a phenomenon when he went back to New York.

Warrior was booked like a monster, and guys like Rick Rude got him over, but he wasn't good enough to actually carry the torch.

Next, Vince went to Luger, who again, had the look, but he didn't have the workrate, mic skills, or charisma to get over, and it took almost a year and a steroid trial for Vince to pull the plug on him.

Bret Hart got over solely thanks to Bret Hart. Shawn Michaels was a bitch of a politician, but he was never booked like a monster, and he largely got himself over. Austin was hired as a midcard mechanic, and he got himself over despite a string of losses.

They originally booked Rock like a franchise face, but the fans shit all over him. Again, he got himself over in the Nation. The only reason he even entered the Austin feud was because Farooq no-showed the Raw after Montreal, so they put Rocky into his spot for that program.

The office put the rocket ship on Lesnar, who didn't want to travel or work house shows, and then Cena was the chosen one to be followed by Reigns.

They almost never make the right decision on their own.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2016 08:20 PM

I think that awful Flo Rida segment killed off the crowd for good. All but dead for that match.

ILChief 01-25-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12049744)
There are two ways to get over: ability or booking. The WWE's problem is that they actively punish guys who get over on ability and make them subservient to the chosen ones who they want to get over. What they've never realized is that all of their best stars got over on ability, but rather than looking for that, Vince has always needed to satisfy his daddy issues.

Hogan was over due to his unique look, charisma, and Rocky III. He was already a phenomenon when he went back to New York.

Warrior was booked like a monster, and guys like Rick Rude got him over, but he wasn't good enough to actually carry the torch.

Next, Vince went to Luger, who again, had the look, but he didn't have the workrate, mic skills, or charisma to get over, and it took almost a year and a steroid trial for Vince to pull the plug on him.

Bret Hart got over solely thanks to Bret Hart. Shawn Michaels was a bitch of a politician, but he was never booked like a monster, and he largely got himself over. Austin was hired as a midcard mechanic, and he got himself over despite a string of losses.

They originally booked Rock like a franchise face, but the fans shit all over him. Again, he got himself over in the Nation. The only reason he even entered the Austin feud was because Farooq no-showed the Raw after Montreal, so they put Rocky into his spot for that program.

The office put the rocket ship on Lesnar, who didn't want to travel or work house shows, and then Cena was the chosen one to be followed by Reigns.

They almost never make the right decision on their own.

Guys like ziggler who completely won the crowd over get screwed for their anointed ones

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 12049779)
Guys like ziggler who completely won the crowd over get screwed for their anointed ones

Yup. Everyone suffers in the end. WWE suffers because they never expand beyond a core audience and the fans who actually care about talented, interesting characters are left with milquetoast bodybuilders.

mcaj22 01-25-2016 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12049744)
There are two ways to get over: ability or booking. The WWE's problem is that they actively punish guys who get over on ability and make them subservient to the chosen ones who they want to get over. What they've never realized is that all of their best stars got over on ability, but rather than looking for that, Vince has always needed to satisfy his daddy issues.

Hogan was over due to his unique look, charisma, and Rocky III. He was already a phenomenon when he went back to New York.

Warrior was booked like a monster, and guys like Rick Rude got him over, but he wasn't good enough to actually carry the torch.

Next, Vince went to Luger, who again, had the look, but he didn't have the workrate, mic skills, or charisma to get over, and it took almost a year and a steroid trial for Vince to pull the plug on him.

Bret Hart got over solely thanks to Bret Hart. Shawn Michaels was a bitch of a politician, but he was never booked like a monster, and he largely got himself over. Austin was hired as a midcard mechanic, and he got himself over despite a string of losses.

They originally booked Rock like a franchise face, but the fans shit all over him. Again, he got himself over in the Nation. The only reason he even entered the Austin feud was because Farooq no-showed the Raw after Montreal, so they put Rocky into his spot for that program.

The office put the rocket ship on Lesnar, who didn't want to travel or work house shows, and then Cena was the chosen one to be followed by Reigns.

They almost never make the right decision on their own.

Austin got the push that Triple H was going to get but was buried cause of the curtain call, Austin didnt get himself over.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12049799)
Austin got the push that Triple H was going to get but was buried cause of the curtain call, Austin didnt get himself over.

Sure he did. KOTR was a forgettable title. Mable won it the year before. That Austin 3:16 promo wasn't written by creative, and it made a huge difference immediately. He was just going to be a midcard to upper-midcard heel. He didn't pander to the crowd for months. He got bigger with the most awesomely badass heel segments of the decade against Pillman. Austin lost every major match he had against Hart and got bigger each time. He ate the pin at Canadian Stampede and it didn't hurt his momentum at all.

Sure, by mid-'97 they decided to build him as the next guy, but to that point, he got himself over and did it with little help.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-25-2016 08:54 PM

Rocky looks much better since he shed all that Pain and Gain bulk.


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