They're just spewing bullshit to rile the fanbase up. It's the only way people will stay tuned into them.

First of all, I should have been more clear - these guys are basically discussing Clark keeping Pioli IN HIS EXISTING CAPACITY. They're talking about not only him staying in KC, but remaining in CHARGE.

Dude, he said that he was going to hire a head coach and he and the coach would decide Pioli's fate.

If he's already decided to keep Pioli and let him call the shots, Clark lied to us. The stadium won't be half empty, it will be COMPLETELY empty.

Maybe we can get McNabb as our QB also. Oh wait...the Eagles suck.

That is true but just pisses me off... there is a reason it takes a lot for many in our fanbase to see the light. This type of BS is the reason but I do understand what they are trying to do.

so when he hires a head coach that decides to keep Pioli?

you still lose

there's only two scenarios here

1) Clark hires a full control HC that hates Pioli

2) Clark hires a nobody HC that keeps Pioli because the guy is probably connected to him or Father in Law Parcells


don't just assume that a new HC means NO Pioli. It's probably 50/50 at this point

Imagine if they hired Ferentz?
LMAO

The traveling road show visits Philly? Yawn. All for show.

Who is assuming that?

:D The report is they are meeting in Pennsylvania. Vermeil still has a place there, a connection to the Eagles and Chiefs, and an affinity for Reid. I believe he's considered a family friend of both the Hunts and Reids. I think he could only help matters.

The sports media in this town, surprisingly, doesn't spend a lot of time following sports. At least the 810 guys are always doing other things. When they talk sports details, with the exception of Petro most of the time, they know less than almost anyone here. They are horribly misinformed, and somehow, they only take calls from people who know less than they do.

"First of all, I should have been more clear - these guys are basically discussing Clark keeping Pioli IN HIS EXISTING CAPACITY. They're talking about not only him staying in KC, but remaining in CHARGE.

Dude, he said that he was going to hire a head coach and he and the coach would decide Pioli's fate."


If a new HC keeps Pioli, then guess what, Pioli remains in his existing capacity lol

This. So much of this.

And Arrowhead will be empty because Clark will have lied to the fans. There is NO WAY that he can justify a tree hire at this point.

This!

It would not only be a PR disaster but a really big hit to the fan base.

Messier that seems about right. It is like KK checked out about 7-10 years ago with actually studying about what is actually going around him in sports. Once he became part owner, he just shut down. It doesn't matter what type of crap he spews, he feels confident he will have a job.

"The Kansas City job is worthless for him. He doesn't want it." -Tony Kornheiser

**** YOU TONY

He'd go back to what he did in NE for Belichick. The HC would have final word on all roster moves. Pioli would simply be there to assist.

Here is a transcript of Beers interview with Clark yesterday. In it he said that Pioli may stay in charge but he is leaving open the option of finding a HC that would want personnel control.

Like I said it is not out of the realm of possibility that Pioli may not be fired and still be in charge. I hope not but who knows..

Where did he say this?

The head coach, according to Clark, will report to Clark.

By definition, Pioli CANNOT remain in his existing capacity because his existing capacity includes having the head coach report to him.

Sure he would say this. The midwest is meaningless to him.

If the HC is reporting to Clark, and unless you think Clark just lied outright, Pioli is not in the same capacity and is not in charge no matter whether he is here or not.

Edit:or yea this.........

Also McNabb is like 50 years old and sucked for the last 5 years of his career?

Wrong.

Pioli's existing capacity includes the head coach reporting to him.

So either Clark is flat out lying, or Pioli will not be kept in his existing capacity.

He just said it on PTI. Michael Wilbon is in Arizona right now for the bowl game and he said Reid will sign with the Cards.

I pray he's wrong.

Cardinals set up interview with Morocco Brown from the Redskins for the GM position.

Now we're arguing semantics on job capacity?


Is he still going to be in charge of personnel?

Mitch is on 810 talking about Andy Reid right now. Clinkscale and TJ had to stop acting like whiney girls for a minute so that Mega Homer can make them puke.

Of course, they spent the first 8 minutes of the segment talking about the Lincoln movie. ROFL

Howard Eskin‏@howardeskin

Andy reid,lamonte has met w KC Chiefs for over 9 hours. Owner clark hunt, pres Mark donovan, GM scott pioli and 4 others.

Like he was in New England?

Pioli's existing capacity includes who to use the franchise tag on, who to try and negotiate contracts with, and what good players to let walk for nothing while signing more Stanford Routts


so get ready for all of that very soon

GM Scott Pioli....ROFL

Peeeeeeeeeeeehoooooooooooooooooooooooliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

So if Cowher has said no, like being reported and Clark whiffs on Reid, whats that leave?

At issue here is whether or not Clark DELIBERATELY DECEIVED the fanbase.

People actually want to believe that's what is happening here.

Do you honestly think Clark wants his team to implode?

i hope it's just been Fat Andy and Clark roasting Scooter for the last 9 hours

for our sake

Maybe Pioli is trying to get a job in Philly. /common sense

Nine hours? Things must be indeed serious! We brought the whole band it seems? Can't say Clark isn't trying and it is apparent Reid is indeed our #1 target.

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

According to @howardeskin the #chiefs met w Reid for 9 hrs. Pioli WAS present according to his report

So why take Pioli to Philly?

True but he could be over everything else especially if they hire a first time head coach.

All I am saying is that I am not going to completly shut out the notion that Pioli may be around next year. I think it would be a PR disaster and he should have been fired 2 days ago but who the **** knows anymore what is going on at 1 Arrowhead Drive.

that leaves Pioli being our GM for 2013.

Well have fun in Arizona Andy.

**** you Clark you lying POS. Pioli is going nowhere.

If that happens, I'm out. So I really don't care. It's a win-win for me.

In the meantime, I'll focus on what's going on and not on bitching about how Clark hasn't done everything I want.

This surprises you? Kansas City doesn't even exist to those dipshits.

The Pioli thing pisses me off a little...but the fact that it was a 9 hour interview where Reid had his agent makes me pretty optimistic.

And they're all back.

Deliberately lied? No.


Said one thing that he can then spin or move another way without being a liar? Dunno

ROFL

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I guess you and I are the only ones thinking this.

He said the head coach will report to him. That means the head coach won't report to Pioli.

There's nothing to spin - he either lied or he didn't.

If Reid landed here and Pioli was pushing papers and working the financials I wouldn't hate it.

Who are the other 4? Should I be mad about them too?

Just because Pioli is there doesn't mean he won't be canned. Pioli could probably learn a lot about his fate in that interview. If it were just Clark and Pioli, I would be more worried but there were five other guys present outside of those two.

lol..wow

If you are negotiating a contract buy out like some have said or that he's waiting for lawsuits to settle etc, why would you take that guy to be present in a meeting with likely the best coach available?

i wouldnt hate it either

but there is no way Andy Reid is working with the Scooter Pioli ego. 0 chance

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

The #chiefs meeting w big name coach good. Pioli being part of that interview bad

I can TOTALLY see Pioli being here in 2013. I'm just not going to get hung up on it until it's confirmed that he is.

If he's Director of Pro Personnel under a head coach like Reid, who has veto power, it's not anything remotely close to what he is now.

I totally agree. However, it's a "process."

Because he's still employed by the Chiefs.

If Clark leaves him in KC, that helps Pioli in the buyout process.

Pioli has a magic hold over Hunt

After all of this leaving Pioli twisting in the wind -- "Eh, I might keep him, I might not, just depends" -- how in the world at the end of the day could Clark come back and say, "Scott's my man. I have full confidence in him to turn this team around"?

Sell that shit somewhere else. You can take your time firing him, so long as you FIRE HIM.

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Again, who's making personnel decisions? Who's negotiating free agents?


What has Pioli done in four years here that garners any of this?

If the new HC is going to help Hunt with the decision on Pioli.....why wouldn't you want him there in the interview?

What is pioli's incentive under that scenario? He brings absolutely nothing to the table.

I've been as optimistic as anyone about Clark, but I am concerned that Pioli is there talking to Reid. Why? Unless bad things are happening.

How so?

5-7M for the next 3 or so years?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Don't know, don't know, and don't know.

Bob Fescoe ‏@bobfescoe

If I'm Reid I get on that plane to Arizona and say I'm going to talk w them cause they don't have a pioli

Including Pioli in the coach meetings does mean that people can just blame Pioli if no coach wants any part of this mess

:clap: But...but..but...you've been saying all along that Pioli was gone when the season ended. While SOME OF US have been saying all along that Pioli would be here in 2013. And you laughed when we did so...:rolleyes:

Welcome to the right side of reality my friend...Always room for your wit on the right side of an issue.

You think they seriously talked about whether or not he would work with Pioli right in front of his face?

Pioli gets to make the first #1 overall pick in Chiefs history.....just let that soak in for a minute

His incentive? How about getting to ride out a $20M+ contract?

Bob Fescoe‏@bobfescoe

If I'm Reid I get on that plane to Arizona and say I'm going to talk w them cause they don't have a pioli

Maybe he wanted to see how long it took Reid to tell Pioli to **** off.