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Nightfyre 12-14-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9209107)
Dane bringing the wood. :hail:

It wasn't the worst first round pick in the last thirty years. Just sayin'.

DeezNutz 12-14-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9209197)
It wasn't the worst first round pick in the last thirty years. Just sayin'.

Given draft position and need, yeah, it probably was.

Nightfyre 12-14-2012 07:46 PM

In Chronological order:
Greg Hill
Trezelle Jenkins
Sylvester Morris
Ryan Sims


Those were some REALLY bad picks.

notorious 12-14-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9209216)
In Chronological order:
Greg Hill
Trezelle Jenkins
Sylvester Morris
Ryan Sims


Those were some REALLY bad picks.

Morris got injured, so I don't shit on him like the other 3.

htismaqe 12-14-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9209216)
In Chronological order:
Greg Hill
Trezelle Jenkins
Sylvester Morris
Ryan Sims


Those were some REALLY bad picks.

Greg Hill has a couple of 150-yard games after he left here.

Then he blew out his knee.

That guy was a gamer but Marty wouldn't play him because he wasn't fat enough.

htismaqe 12-14-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9209220)
Morris got injured, so I don't shit on him like the other 3.

Percy Snow got injured too but since he hurt himself RIDING A ****ING MOPED, I shit on him MORE than the others...

notorious 12-14-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9209247)
Percy Snow got injured too but since he hurt himself RIDING A ****ING MOPED, I shit on him MORE than the others...

ROFL

He was the most awesome player to never play on Tecmo Super Bowl. His ratings were amazing.

Sorter 12-14-2012 08:09 PM

http://shop.sportsworldcards.com/ekm...rd-35124-p.jpg


^^^Yuck

Hammock Parties 12-14-2012 08:42 PM

HAMAS SPEAKS

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I'd classify myself as a Smith guy. This QB class is by no means perfect, but they never are. Far too often people go back and retroactively scout players based on what they did rather than what it appeared they were capable of doing. RGIII was a controversial prospect despite what people claim now. Stafford, not Sanchez, was Ground Zero of the CP QB Wars of 2008. Only once Stafford appeared out of reach did people start analyzing him down logically rather than fearfully.

Smith has a lot of positives. He has tremendous pocket presence and is willing to get his chops busted to complete the ball downfield. He's a thrower first and a thrower second. He only runs as a last resort. He's a true pocket passer, but not because he has the feet of Drew Bledsoe, he's always looking downfield. His deep ball accuracy is nearly immaculate and he has a very quick release.

There are some concerns. The first is that he throws too much off his back foot, and his arm, although strong enough to make any throw, isn't strong enough to make any throw from a bad position. Furthermore, he still comes from a system that is primarily a single-read. If you look at the LSU game from last year, for example, on his first ten throws he looks to the right side of the entire field maybe once. However, he has shown the ability to look off a safety, so a nascent ability to read a defense is there.

I don't really have much insight into his personal character or background. I doubt he'll wow or throw at the combine, but I don't think he really has to.
He's not the best prospect in the draft, but he's the best prospect at the most important position, and that means that any team without a QB absolutely cannot pass him up.

One other addendum I forgot. His intermediate accuracy to the outer hashes is occasionally sketchy and he's not super accurate off the run, but given that he's a pocket QB, those aren't super important. They're also fixable, just like his footwork.

cdcox 12-14-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9209216)
In Chronological order:
Greg Hill
Trezelle Jenkins
Sylvester Morris
Ryan Sims


Those were some REALLY bad picks.

Brian Jozwiak: Yep. Jenkins is probably the worst pick Carl ever made.

Todd Blackledge: Hi guys, whatcha talking about?

Steve Fuller: I'm a Rhodes Scholar finalist, damn it!

Anthony Hancock: My career would make someone a pretty decent season.

Paul Palmer: Hey, that's my line!

Willie Scott: Mine too!

Ethan Horton: I was a better TE than you. Why the hell did the Chiefs keep playing me at HB.

Brad Budde: I'm a chip off the ol' block.

Ethan Horton: I wouldn't stick my neck out that far.

Rod Walters: Yeah, but how many of you managed to play for three teams in one season. That's a good thing, right?

Jeff Kinney: Nebraska representing!

Woody Green: Dang, this list is littered with shitty running backs.

Gayle Sayers: Welp, I'm out.

Gene Trosch: Buck Buchanan was the first great first round pick of the Chiefs to play DT. I was the second.

Sid Smith: It's best to draft OL in the first round.

RealSNR 12-14-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9209324)
HAMAS SPEAKS

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Bewbies 12-15-2012 12:06 AM

Hamas was right, Stafford was where the QB battle was waged. So many people on here said he sucked it was hilarious.

BigMeatballDave 12-15-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 9209688)
Hamas was right, Stafford was where the QB battle was waged. So many people on here said he sucked it was hilarious.

I had a boner for Stafford.

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 01:31 AM

What Hamas said about Geno is money. And he's correct about all of it actually. Although I felt like RG3 was pretty damn close to being a sure thing-star in the NFL by about February.

To me though, I really feel that that shitty spread he's in has held Geno back. He could've done so much more had they allowed him to.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-15-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9209054)
Will Hamas embrace the Dark Penii?

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9209324)
HAMAS SPEAKS

:wayne: Penii = EMBRACED.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-15-2012 12:40 PM

I really do believe Geno has Elway-like potential.

Rausch 12-15-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9210566)
I really do believe Geno has Elway-like potential.

Oh for ****s sake.

Quoted...

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-15-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9210576)
Oh for ****s sake.

Quoted...

I'm cool with it! I see it. It's there. He's a PPP that can be elusive enough to make chicken salad with chicken shit. Casey Printers should wash his car on Sundays!

Sometimes he starts a little slow, but when he gets going; it's ALWAYS positive yardage, positive yardage, positive yardage!

I'l take that.

WildTurkey 12-15-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9210566)
I really do believe Geno has Elway-like potential.

Agreed. He certainly has the potential. Hopefully that potential translates into NFL greatness

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-15-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9210589)
Agreed. He certainly has the potential. Hopefully that potential translates into NFL greatness

I mean really; WHO did that last drive against OU remind you of?

Saccopoo 12-15-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9210760)
I mean really; WHO did that last drive against OU remind you of?

It reminded me of Geno Smith.

You know, that guy with a shit ton of potential that should be, by all rights and destinies, a Kansas City Chief.

If these pricks win tomorrow, I'm going to be major pissed.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9210566)
I really do believe Geno has Elway-like potential.

Oh come on!

RealSNR 12-15-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211160)
Oh come on!

I don't know if I would compare Geno Smith to John Elway. Elway could scramble like a goddamn gazelle. Smith is a bit clunkier. But what Smith does have is the potential to be a top 3 QB in this league.

Good enough for me.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 06:44 PM

I think some of it is you guys are seeing what you are wanting to see. I did the same thing with Tebow and Knowshon. I'm not trying to bash on Geno, but I see a hell of a lot more Byron Leftwhich in him than I see Elway.

SAUTO 12-15-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211186)
I think some of it is you guys are seeing what you are wanting to see. I did the same thing with Tebow and Knowshon. I'm not trying to bash on Geno, but I see a hell of a lot more Byron Leftwhich in him than I see Elway.

Lol. Leftwich was a statue
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Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211186)
I think some of it is you guys are seeing what you are wanting to see. I did the same thing with Tebow and Knowshon. I'm not trying to bash on Geno, but I see a hell of a lot more Byron Leftwhich in him than I see Elway.

Leftwich had a windup worse than Cassel.

Geno has a near perfect release.

Go **** yourself.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211186)
I think some of it is you guys are seeing what you are wanting to see. I did the same thing with Tebow and Knowshon. I'm not trying to bash on Geno, but I see a hell of a lot more Byron Leftwhich in him than I see Elway.

You are racist as well as ignorant I see

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2012 06:52 PM

Keep in mind this is the same squirt that thinks Assweiler would have been the surefire number 1 overall pick this year.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211186)
I think some of it is you guys are seeing what you are wanting to see. I did the same thing with Tebow and Knowshon. I'm not trying to bash on Geno, but I see a hell of a lot more Byron Leftwhich in him than I see Elway.

Things Geno Smith does NOT have in common with Byron Leftwich: absolu****inglutely nothing to do with his game as a QB

Things Geno Smith DOES have in common with Byron Leftwich: skin color

AussieChiefsFan 12-15-2012 06:53 PM

^

RealSNR 12-15-2012 06:54 PM

They both played QB in the state of West Virginia, I guess.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211190)
Leftwich had a windup worse than Cassel.

Geno has a near perfect release.

Go **** yourself.

They have a similar style of play, Geno is probably a better athlete and Byron probably had a bigger arm. Leftwhich did have a windup though. Leftwhich wasn't a bad prospect coming out.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211224)
They have a similar style of play, Geno is probably a better athlete and Byron probably had a bigger arm. Leftwhich did have a windup though. Leftwhich wasn't a bad prospect coming out.

I don't care what you think.

You have consistently proven to be a reerun.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211228)
I don't care what you think.

You have consistently proven to be a reerun.

Brodie Croyle is better than Cutler!/GoChiefs

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211224)
They have a similar style of play, Geno is probably a better athlete and Byron probably had a bigger arm. Leftwhich did have a windup though. Leftwhich wasn't a bad prospect coming out.

Absolutely not and please state a legit reason for stating that. Skin color doesn't count :drool: They are both black QB's, the similarties end and begin right there.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211233)
Brodie Croyle is better than Cutler!/GoChiefs

I never said that.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9211234)
Absolutely not and please state a legit reason for stating that. Skin color doesn't count :drool:

They are both pocket passers with big arms, and yeah they both are black. They put up similar numbers in college too and they both played their college ball in WV.

You typically don't see very many black pocket passers. So Leftwhich was a pretty easy comparison for me.

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211260)
You typically don't see very many black pocket passers. So Leftwhich was a pretty easy comparison for me.

And this is why they are calling you racist lol

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:20 PM

So the most important part of the comparison is the pocket passer thing.

Because skin color and location is irrelevant in any logical comparison.

HAY GUYS I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO EVERY POCKET PASSER EVER BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH POCKET PASSERS

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:20 PM

BRODIE CROYLE I COMPARE HIM TO PEYTON MANNING, THEY ARE BOTH POCKET PASSERS

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:21 PM

Marshall is in Huntington WV

beach tribe 12-15-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211269)
So the most important part of the comparison is the pocket passer thing.

Because skin color and location is irrelevant in any logical comparison.

HAY GUYS I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO EVERY POCKET PASSER EVER BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH POCKET PASSERS

It's because they are black. Case closed.

beach tribe 12-15-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211277)
Marshall is in Huntington WV

I forgot. Hence the delete.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 07:23 PM

I had to see a doctor the other day, and the guy I had was black. I said to him, "Hey, a black doctor! You don't see that every day! You know who you remind me of? That black guy on House MD!" And guess what? The guy didn't like that. I have no idea why! What did I say that was untrue?

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211264)
And this is why they are calling you racist lol

That's not racist. I live in WV so that is another reason Leftwhich was the player I instantly thought of.

I was actually a pretty big fan of Leftwhich and Chad Pennington.

Nightfyre 12-15-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211293)
That's not racist. I live in WV so that is another reason Leftwhich was the player I instantly thought of.

I was actually a pretty big fan of Leftwhich and Chad Pennington.

Leftwich and Geno are not at all comparable. You're a reerun.

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:30 PM

how are you a Denver fan living in West Virginia?

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:30 PM

It would be racist if I compared him to Vick, V. Young or RG3. Leftwhich and Geno actually have similar attributes.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:30 PM

No, they don't.

They are opposites physically speaking. Nothing they do is alike.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 07:34 PM

Byron Leftwich:

-Had a windup and a slow release that looked like a ****ing reerun
-Was taller (and fatter) than Geno
-Had no experience in a pro system in college, and didn't seem to get the knack for it in the pros

Geno Smith:

-Has a release like a goddamn slingshot
-Is in prime physical condition, shorter than Leftwich by maybe two inches? (don't have that info handy)
-Has experience in the pro system in college. Did well by it. Is smart enough to elevate his game to whatever playbook he will take to in the pros


How the **** are they similar players, Knowmo? If you can't give us a reasonable answer, you're a racist

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9211296)
how are you a Denver fan living in West Virginia?

I was born in Denver and my dad was a huge Bronco fan.

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:35 PM

your dad was a huge pussy, too...but you don't like pussy.

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211297)
It would be racist if I compared him to Vick, V. Young or RG3. Leftwhich and Geno actually have similar attributes.

I haven't acknowledged this guy lately, but shit. All he does is hate on any player that has any remote chance to end up in KC. I've never seen him like anybody in KC.


"Jamaal Charles is basically Tatum Bell". - Knowshit

Such a turd.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:36 PM

They are big armed pocket passers who are both black. They both should be drafted in the middle of the first round.

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:39 PM

you might as well say they both have big lips, too...racist

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211312)
They are big armed pocket passers who are both black. They both should be drafted in the middle of the first round.

So you're saying Geno is a top 20 prospect?

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:40 PM

They both love watermelon and grape soda?




Racist ****.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:43 PM

I guess everybody who compared Luck to Elway is racist. Because we all know that Luck doesn't have the armstrength that Elway had.

threebag 12-15-2012 07:45 PM

Elway was a one who sucks the penis

whoman69 12-15-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211312)
They are big armed pocket passers who are both black. They both should be drafted in the middle of the first round.

That is a stunning comparison. They're identical.

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2...46-533x345.jpg

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211326)
I guess everybody who compared Luck to Elway is racist. Because we all know that Luck doesn't have the armstrength that Elway had.

I didn't hear anybody comparing Luck to Elway. They really aren't that similar. Luck truthfully didn't remind me of anybody. He was kind of his own. You probably compared Luck to Elway because you're a reerun donk homer that couldn't think of any body else to compare him to..


And cause you're ****ing racist.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211326)
I guess everybody who compared Luck to Elway is racist. Because we all know that Luck doesn't have the armstrength that Elway had.

Don't try to weasel your way out of this one, racist.

You're going to have to do better than just arm strength if you want to not be a racist, Archie Bunker.

notorious 12-15-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211326)
I guess everybody who compared Luck to Elway is racist. Because we all know that Luck doesn't have the armstrength that Elway had.

So now you are bagging on Cave Men?

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.48467...92552&pid=15.1

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.45908...19305&pid=15.1

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:48 PM

I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO BRODIE CROYLE

THEY ARE BOTH BIG ARMED POCKET PASSERS

Hootie 12-15-2012 07:50 PM

clay you can't compare a black QB to a white QB

everyone knows that

they aren't the same color!

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9211339)
I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO BRODIE CROYLE

THEY ARE BOTH BIG ARMED POCKET PASSERS

So is Geno a Black QB or a CornBall QB?

That's my question.

Heard someone asking at the barber shop.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 07:52 PM

I don't hate anyone. Calling me a racist is absurd.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2012 07:53 PM

I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO RYAN LEAF

THEY ARE BOTH BIG ARMED POCKET PASSERS

I COMPARE GENO SMITH TO DAN MARINO

THEY ARE BOTH BIG ARMED POCKET PASSERS

RealSNR 12-15-2012 07:55 PM

Reasons why Geno Smith could be confused with Byron Leftwich:

-Arm strength
...


Give me some more, Knowshit

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211349)
I don't hate anyone. Calling me a racist is absurd.

Sure. Sure you don't hate the black people. But you can sure as hell lump them all into one group: Vick=RG3=Cunningham=Smith=Moon=Pete


Yeah. They're ALL the same.

RIGHT?

KCrockaholic 12-15-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9211358)
Reasons why Geno Smith could be confused with Byron Leftwich:

-Arm strength
...


Give me some more, Knowshit

"Velcro hair" - Knowshit

RealSNR 12-15-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9211361)
Sure. Sure you don't hate the black people. But you can sure as hell lump them all into one group: Vick=RG3=Cunningham=Smith=Moon=Pete


Yeah. They're ALL the same.

RIGHT?

Look, I don't hate anybody, but all I see on that list are big, black, strong-armed QBs.

Hootie 12-15-2012 08:03 PM

well they all certainly look the same

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 08:22 PM

How dare they compare Ricky Rubio to Pistol Pete! Why not compare him to Magic Johnson or Raefer Alston!

Hootie 12-15-2012 08:28 PM

Ricky Rubio looks nothing like Raefer Alston you racist.

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 08:30 PM

My original comment was he compares more to Leftwhich than he does to Elway. Which is 100% true. Enough with the BS.

They put up similar numbers in college and they both play in a similar style. (though I remember Leftwhich pushing the ball down the fie'd more)

You guys are the ones who are hung up on race.

milkman 12-15-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211417)
My original comment was he compares more to Leftwhich than he does to Elway. Which is 100% true. Enough with the BS.

They put up similar numbers in college and they both play in a similar style. (though I remember Leftwhich pushing the ball down the fie'd more)

You guys are the ones who are hung up on race.

You are a ****ing racist moron.

RealSNR 12-15-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211417)
My original comment was he compares more to Leftwhich than he does to Elway. Which is 100% true. Enough with the BS.

They put up similar numbers in college and they both play in a similar style. (though I remember Leftwhich pushing the ball down the fie'd more)

You guys are the ones who are hung up on race.

Still waiting, Hitler:

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9211224)
They have a similar style of play, Geno is probably a better athlete and Byron probably had a bigger arm. Leftwhich did have a windup though. Leftwhich wasn't a bad prospect coming out.


Hootie 12-15-2012 08:37 PM

this guy makes listopencil look reasonable and tolerant

Quesadilla Joe 12-15-2012 08:49 PM

There is no reasoning with you guys when it comes to Geno. I'm done talking about him.


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