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SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17964065)
Yeah, their selling points right now are that they have the foundations on offense. Franchise LT, franchise WR, good young RB. Just need the QB to make it work and ascend quickly.

I’ve looked around rosters. I don’t think there’s a young LT to be had, at least not one that you feel like settles the position for years, like people want.

If you can’t sign one of Cam Robinson, Stanley, or Alaric Jackson, I think you can take a numbers game approach as the best bet.

Sign a floor vet like Humphries. Sign a second-chance guy like Jedrick Willis. Draft another guy with traits.

Throw them in the pot with guys you have on hand and see what comes out.
Hence, the importance of keeping the pipeline going at LT and RT...if your franchise tackle leaves via FA, then you can go to the next guy, etc.

Alaric Jackson was a UDFA. He is projected to get 15-20M per year. Chiefs have to go out and get him if that's the price...

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2025/1...alaric-jackson

pugsnotdrugs19 02-11-2025 08:57 AM
Alaric Jackson has guard length arms, I would say he’s a no-go

htismaqe 02-11-2025 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17964094)
Alaric Jackson has guard length arms, I would say he’s a no-go
I've mentioned it a couple of times in the draft forum but I like Conerly. Lots of excellent tape in a very competitive conference. There were concerns about Rashawn Slater's measurables when he came out too. It's not the end of the world.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17964094)
Alaric Jackson has guard length arms, I would say he’s a no-go
Google is all over the place with his arm length...i'm seeing both 32.5 and 33 7/8. Ideal length is 34.

Chiefnj2 02-11-2025 09:31 AM
In one month people are going to start going crazy for a prospect with the same attributes Suamataia had last year.

The Chiefs best option might just be hitting the reset button on the kid and develop him.

farmerchief 02-11-2025 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17964124)
In one month people are going to start going crazy for a prospect with the same attributes Suamataia had last year.

The Chiefs best option might just be hitting the reset button on the kid and develop him.
Yep, I agree. I just re-read one of the scouting reports on him last year, and he has all the attributes to be a very good LT in the pros. Maybe he just needs a new offensive line coach? He should have learned something this year in practice, somebody should be able to coach him up enough to improve, imo.

TEX 02-11-2025 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17964124)
In one month people are going to start going crazy for a prospect with the same attributes Suamataia had last year.

The Chiefs best option might just be hitting the reset button on the kid and develop him.
No. Thus far, the most impressive thing that guy has done is jump out of a swimming pool... They can develop him, but they got to get someone else to play ahead of him while he develops. They cannot go into the season next year with the same situation as this past year.

Iczer 02-11-2025 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 17964133)
Yep, I agree. I just re-read one of the scouting reports on him last year, and he has all the attributes to be a very good LT in the pros. Maybe he just needs a new offensive line coach? He should have learned something this year in practice, somebody should be able to coach him up enough to improve, imo.
Personally, if there's a prospect they like/love at tackle and you can get. You draft him. Knowing that Taylor is probably gone after this year, we need to develop tackles. We're going to need LT and RT.

O.city 02-11-2025 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17964150)
No. Thus far, the most impressive thing that guy has done is jump out of a swimming pool... They can develop him, but they got to get someone else to play ahead of him while he develops. They cannot go into the season next year with the same situation as this past year.
I'll get flamed here but...if you need 2 years to "develop" you shouldn't have been a 2nd round pick.

He needs to be ready to go either at RG or LT this training camp.

RunKC 02-11-2025 10:13 AM
Rashawn Slater was a ****ing beast. He may not have had the length of a tackle but he was really ****ing strong. Like insanely strong.

Conerly isn’t strong. He’s a smaller more finesse tackle and the Sr Bowl outlines how awful his strength was when Mike Green destroyed him with power.

I can’t sign off on that. We just lost a SB with Thuney getting bull rushed into Mahomes all night

MahomesMagic 02-11-2025 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964155)
I'll get flamed here but...if you need 2 years to "develop" you shouldn't have been a 2nd round pick.

He needs to be ready to go either at RG or LT this training camp.
A very late 2nd, almost a 3rd round pick.

I have no issue with that because the value of the position if you hit.

What I didn’t like was not also signing a veteran.

Woogieman 02-11-2025 10:17 AM
From what I saw, developing Suamataia into a high caliber LT is trying to develop Gilbert Gottfried into an opera singer. At this point, we HOPE he can have meaningful snaps at guard in the next few years. I don't know what the answer is, but answering Suamataia at LT is like answering "Kazakhstan" on an Algebra test.

O.city 02-11-2025 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17964171)
A very late 2nd, almost a 3rd round pick.

I have no issue with that because the value of the position if you hit.

What I didn’t like was not also signing a veteran.
2 years of development gives you 2 years of cheap play (really 1 cause they'll want a contract extension after the 3rd year).

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-11-2025 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17964124)
In one month people are going to start going crazy for a prospect with the same attributes Suamataia had last year.

The Chiefs best option might just be hitting the reset button on the kid and develop him.
I know he was raw, but was the answer really to pull the plug on him after 2 weeks?

I think half this board is already convinced he's a total bust. We sent him after the literal sack King this year by himself and wow, what a surprise, he didn't do well.

Like, this shit takes time for young LTs. Its not a fun process, but it is necessary.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17964090)
Hence, the importance of keeping the pipeline going at LT and RT...if your franchise tackle leaves via FA, then you can go to the next guy, etc.

Alaric Jackson was a UDFA. He is projected to get 15-20M per year. Chiefs have to go out and get him if that's the price...

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2025/1...alaric-jackson
I mean, you draft to backfill your roster, and yes, you take traits and try to develop. But you're talking about taking guys on Day 3 or late on Day 2, not using 1st round picks on them.

It's not impossible to find usable Gs that way. Pretty do-able.

The idea that you just keep drafting Ts and always have guys waiting in the wings ready to step in is one that seems simple on paper or to say... but there aren't THAT many good T to go around. There are not really teams that have a pair of kick-ass T ready to go, sitting in a "break in case of emergency" status...


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