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O.city 04-10-2023 09:04 AM

Yeah, I've pretty much zerod in if he's there, I would take him.

kccrow 04-10-2023 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16896463)
Uh....he very well could be.

What's there not to like in his profile? Measurables, production, no character flags. He's tenacious and his tape shows a guy who will do the dirty work. He's scheme versatile to boot.

There are times I wonder why he's not a top 20 prospect already. There's just not much to complain about with him.

He's 24 and has one good season of production. Not that either are deal-breakers, but it's enough teams could choose others over him. I still think he's got a legit shot to go in round 1 to a 3-4 team in need of a base 5-tech, but 4-3 teams have more than enough options to likely pass.

RunKC 04-10-2023 01:19 PM

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My rankings for the EDGE prospects in the 2023 Draft. Broke it all down on today&#39;s podcast. <a href="https://t.co/1L80RRIif5">pic.twitter.com/1L80RRIif5</a></p>&mdash; Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1645497791895019530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-10-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16896881)
LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My rankings for the EDGE prospects in the 2023 Draft. Broke it all down on today&#39;s podcast. <a href="https://t.co/1L80RRIif5">pic.twitter.com/1L80RRIif5</a></p>&mdash; Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) <a href="https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1645497791895019530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Simms ALWAYS does ranking that push against the grain because he knows people will talk about what he said.

I think Tyree Wilson could be picked ahead of Will Anderson because of well the history of the NFL.

O.city 04-10-2023 01:26 PM

Again, listening to Middlekauf talking about some of his scouting buddies, they aren't really top end of the draft high on Will Anderson.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16896898)
Again, listening to Middlekauf talking about some of his scouting buddies, they aren't really top end of the draft high on Will Anderson.

He's probably not an ideal 4-3 player.

If you're going to take him high, you probably need to be a 3-4 team. So for Seattle I was happy to have him fall to me in the CP Mock. But I could see teams that are focused on finding traditional 4-3 DEs being a little less enthusiastic about him because I'm not sure he's stout enough to be an every down lineman in a 4-3.

But putting him behind McDonald is stupid. They're the same style of player, Anderson's just better.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2023 10:51 AM

So - why isn't anyone talking about Colby Wooden?

Are they and I'm just not hearing it? Wouldn't mind seeing a little more arm length but his are by no means short. Good mass, solid athleticism, seems to have nice bend and a good pass rush approach.

I'm routinely seeing him available in the 3rd - is there any reason at all that we shouldn't be pretty damn stoked to get him there if he made it? What am I missing? I've been focused on Zach Harrison there as a possibility but Wooden is just...better. Just a lot more dynamic from what I can see.

Why does he suck? Because I don't feel like he does.

Couch-Potato 04-14-2023 05:03 PM

DTs

1st - Breese, Smith, Benton
2nd - Dexter, Roy

Any NT types that we like later in the draft? Coburn, maybe?

Couch-Potato 04-14-2023 08:27 PM

DE's

1st - Murphy, White, Foskey, McDonald
2nd - Tuipulotu, Adebaware, Hall
3rd - Harrison, Young, Carter
4th - Diaby, McGuire, Fehoko, Brooks
5th - Incoom

kccrow 04-14-2023 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16902082)
So - why isn't anyone talking about Colby Wooden?

Are they and I'm just not hearing it? Wouldn't mind seeing a little more arm length but his are by no means short. Good mass, solid athleticism, seems to have nice bend and a good pass rush approach.

I'm routinely seeing him available in the 3rd - is there any reason at all that we shouldn't be pretty damn stoked to get him there if he made it? What am I missing? I've been focused on Zach Harrison there as a possibility but Wooden is just...better. Just a lot more dynamic from what I can see.

Why does he suck? Because I don't feel like he does.

I like him. Ended up snagging him in the middle of the 4th for the Patriots. Not sure if I'd take him in the 3rd but maybe. His run defense is lacking and his sack/pressure production isn't enough to make up for it, especially as an outside rusher. He's still better than Harrison in my opinion too.

Nightfyre 04-16-2023 01:37 PM

Let's say hypothetically:
Lukas Van Ness falls to like 20.
Mazi Smith falls to like 50.
Is it worth it to move up in either scenario? Both scenarios? How does this D line compare to spags SB winning dline with the giants?

For my part, this is the dream, and I would not hesitate to burn a second from next year to move up for van Ness and 95 this year to move up for smith. The dline instantly becomes a huge strength and the defense becomes incredible for the foreseeable future.

DJ's left nut 04-16-2023 04:26 PM

I'd have to see the board.

My first impression is no, I wouldn't trade up for either.

Couch-Potato 04-16-2023 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16904054)
Let's say hypothetically:
Lukas Van Ness falls to like 20.
Mazi Smith falls to like 50.
Is it worth it to move up in either scenario? Both scenarios? How does this D line compare to spags SB winning dline with the giants?

For my part, this is the dream, and I would not hesitate to burn a second from next year to move up for van Ness and 95 this year to move up for smith. The dline instantly becomes a huge strength and the defense becomes incredible for the foreseeable future.

Sure! Let's do it!

Couch-Potato 04-17-2023 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 16904054)
Let's say hypothetically:
Lukas Van Ness falls to like 20.
Mazi Smith falls to like 50.
Is it worth it to move up in either scenario? Both scenarios? How does this D line compare to spags SB winning dline with the giants?

For my part, this is the dream, and I would not hesitate to burn a second from next year to move up for van Ness and 95 this year to move up for smith. The dline instantly becomes a huge strength and the defense becomes incredible for the foreseeable future.

How about Myles Murphy and Keanu Benton?

DJ's left nut 04-17-2023 09:33 AM

Murphy - maybe.

Benton - still no.

If Kancey's height/length issues have him sliding in the 2nd though, that's a guy I might be willing to move up for. Because unlike your Mazi Smith sorts, he's a guy who might be a difference maker.

Could Kancey be a Dre'mont Jones sort of interior pass-rusher? Yeah, I think he can be. And maybe a little better especially with Jones being able to draw some attention and maybe help him keep guys hands off him a bit.

If I've traded up for Murphy, though, I'm not also trading up for Kancey. It's just too much capital to throw at the DL when I still think we need a substantial infusion of talent/depth at WR and OL.


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