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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 01-23-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14747210)
I'd guess most people would want their team to have the ball just because that feels like you're more in control.

But the reality? You definitely want the lead. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand probabilities.

Agreed. I’d rather have the lead because all it takes is one bobble, a dropped pass, an untimely penalty and the team coming from behind is screwed. Just too many ways things can go wrong.

DRM08 01-23-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14747118)
I really think that Bears game was the most complete game we've played. We ground their ass to complete dogshit. It was when I went "Man, Andy Reid really is a very good head football coach!" I think I even posted "we keep playing like that, we can go to the Super Bowl!"

Really enjoyed the offensive approach in the Bears game. They have a pretty good defense and it was cool to see the Chiefs grinding a lot of clock with good scoring drives. They scored 26, but it felt like they could have scored 40 if they wanted.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-23-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14747221)
Really enjoyed the offensive approach in the Bears game. They have a pretty good defense and it was cool to see the Chiefs grinding a lot of clock with good scoring drives. They scored 26, but it felt like they could have scored 40 if they wanted.

Mack was a beast in that one too. It wasn’t like Mahomes didn’t deal with any sort of pressure. Still made stuff work.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14747221)
Really enjoyed the offensive approach in the Bears game. They have a pretty good defense and it was cool to see the Chiefs grinding a lot of clock with good scoring drives. They scored 26, but it felt like they could have scored 40 if they wanted.

Absolutely, 100%. They were in total and complete control.

A8bil 01-23-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14747210)
I'd guess most people would want their team to have the ball just because that feels like you're more in control.

But the reality? You definitely want the lead. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand probabilities.

The gambler's take...I love it. But, what about Mahomes? Part of the reason the listeners didn't want the lead and their defense on the field was Mahomes, particularly if you changed the hypothetical to KC only down 2 -- they figured there was no way for SF's defense to prevent Mahomes from driving 50 yards.

rabblerouser 01-23-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14747222)
Mack was a beast in that one too. It wasn’t like Mahomes didn’t deal with any sort of pressure. Still made stuff work.

Fat fingered the thumbs down. Should've been thumbs up. My bad, dawg.

All22 01-23-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14747215)
Actually he does.

And you are right All22 you had one of the hardest stretches in NFL history, except what pawnmower is explaining to you, is you can’t just walk in a room and say “this is true, prove me wrong” and walk out and say how right you are if no one proves you wrong. The burden of proof is set on you, providing a link, showing statistical data etc.

Your way of conversation and proving a point is actually the exact opposite of how they teach people to approach a discussion.

No, he claimed I used an argument that was impossible to disprove. I did not.

As far as burden of proof, well, I'm new here so I can't use links in posts. I provided headlines and the information is otherwise widely reported and available.

His claim was that the widely reported information is wrong. Therefore the burden of proof is with him.

Ming the Merciless 01-23-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14747204)
All22, meet Pawnmower. A bigger fan of himself than anyone you'll ever meet.


not surprised in the least you take the side of ALexians and niner's fans


huge pansy

Halfcan 01-23-2020 11:15 AM

49ers fans had to put on a windbreaker their last home playoff game-Nobody has ever had it that bad before!!!!

All22 01-23-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14747225)
The gambler's take...I love it. But, what about Mahomes? Part of the reason the listeners didn't want the lead and their defense on the field was Mahomes, particularly if you changed the hypothetical to KC only down 2 -- they figured there was no way for SF's defense to prevent Mahomes from driving 50 yards.

But I never enjoy leaving the game in the hands of a kicker.

A8bil 01-23-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14747217)
Telling. People are terrified of Mahomes. They should be terrified our defense too, bitch.

Perhaps they don't know your defense that well? They discussed Clark at length in the same show and noted that statistically KC is better than SF's defense in some ways. Still, it was the concern of Mahomes with the ball and a tired SF defense that were the prime factors.

FringeNC 01-23-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14747110)
Man, this is awesome stuff. I will say, the Chargers seemed to have some moderate success against us on defense this year. They forced us to dink and dunk down the field, and that's really not when our offense is at its best. The Chiefs can certainly do it though - we dominated the Bears with methodical drives like that when they basically sold out to prevent the deep ball.

Mahomes has seen this defensive scheme 4 times just with the Chargers in the past two years. I think he and Reid are going to shred it with 2 weeks to prepare.

The Chargers have stymied Mahomes a bit the last three times we've played them.

DRM08 01-23-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14747222)
Mack was a beast in that one too. It wasn’t like Mahomes didn’t deal with any sort of pressure. Still made stuff work.

Yeah, I felt like KC did a great job in that game. Might see a somewhat similar approach against the Niners.

DaFace 01-23-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by A8bil (Post 14747225)
The gambler's take...I love it. But, what about Mahomes? Part of the reason the listeners didn't want the lead and their defense on the field was Mahomes, particularly if you changed the hypothetical to KC only down 2 -- they figured there was no way for SF's defense to prevent Mahomes from driving 50 yards.

It's probably shifted for Mahomes, but PFR's win probability calculator says that the team down by 6 is only a 17% chance to win in that situation. I'll take the lead all day long.

A8bil 01-23-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14747230)
49ers fans had to put on a windbreaker their last home playoff game-Nobody has ever had it that bad before!!!!

LOL...I had my beanie in my pocket just in case.


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